that's what i'm saying. comparing credited person means absolutely nothing in terms of man-hours. i've been credited for work that took me less than an hour.
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Over 1000 people are working on Pokémon Sword & Shield, twice as much as for Sun & Moon [SEE STAFF POST]
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that's what i'm saying. comparing credited person means absolutely nothing in terms of man-hours. i've been credited for work that took me less than an hour.
I think the Wild Area looks nice for the most part, but they mostly used ugly screenshots and angles to promote it. Besides the tree, there's nothing wrong with it. I thought the treehouse segment looked much nicer than stills for example.
Wind Waker does not look realistic and that game looks absolutely stunning. The Ryu Ga Gotoku games are made with a much lower budget and those games blows S&S graphics out of the water
It honestly doesn't look so bad at all. Graphics are the least of these games problems.
Well, maybe the animations are still quite poor.
Well, maybe the animations are still quite poor.
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I would never have guessed.
Game looks ugly, probably has performance issues, and doesn't have all monsters.
Game looks ugly, probably has performance issues, and doesn't have all monsters.
Oh I saw it.
And I wasn't trolling. The report button is riiiiight there buddy.
Most big western style RPGs but mostly the ones that come to mind would be Witcher 3, Morrowind and even hilariously minecraft.
Of course what you are going to do is pretend that each individual Pokémon is just as good as a real enemy type or character or a hand crafted world which we know isn't right, as these arguments about having to hand animate 1000 Pokémon ignore the fact that many will use the same animation types.
I just think it's mismanagement and maybe even a cynical attempt to make the whole "you have to buy red AND blue" thing expand to more games than just the two.
Expected, teams that are bigger than GF and games that have less variety, I guess there is no magical team smaller than GF and with more variety in their games.
Could have answered earlier, but I guess you couldnt find anything, a shame.
Give me hard numbers. I wanna know the exact number for the bestiary in Witcher 3, Morrowind, and I'll ignore Minecraft for the sake of my brain cells.
they aren't bigger and in my opinion more variety overall, but hey! Try answering my question if you're so smug about it.
You are the one making the statement, prove your point, go to some wikis or something, Ill wait.
seriously? You think that just because Pokémon has more numbers on a list it's a more varied game in gameplay, the world, the story etc?
Wrong. The Witcher 3 had up to 1500 involved in the game.
And are you really going to use a game from 2002 that didn't have to worry about HD graphics? Also Morrowind took "100-man years to create" They had a big team.
Minecraft has the power of Microsoft behind it now, when it was first created it did not have the variety you speak of.
When talking about workload it's all about those numbers though, especially when animations are involved.
It's fascinating that I'm seeing people dismiss it saying "Yeah but this probably includes testers and translators", as if:
a) All other games didn't do that in their reported development staff numbers
b) those weren't vital to development
a) All other games didn't do that in their reported development staff numbers
b) those weren't vital to development
Sometimes its not even fans and just people who had no interest in the games who don't like that something is popular outside of their interests. You saw it in every thread about the recent Pokemon anime too, where people with no knowledge or understanding spew useless opinions as if they're conditioned to expect a reddit style upvote for being thoughtless and toxic.
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i should have known better than to argue with Pokémon fans. I only have myself to blame. Some quick googling can show it yourself, it's an Internet forum not your high school debate club so I could give a fuck less about proving it to you. And besides you can't even explain why we were fed the shitty 3ds games excuse. In any case I'm gonna nope out of this hive mind thread and wait until game freak make a Pokémon game with The scale they can afford but won't for whatever reason.
"I don't watch the anime but they should get rid of its main character and make it more adult"
OP
OP
So you make a knee jerk reaction post, get called out asking for receipts as for what you're claiming, then bail out insulting people because they didn't buy your false narrative? Yup, should have known better.
......Guys, game development is not just about graphics. There are other departments too.
Multiple devs already surpass this number tbh. As games get more and more complex the number of people working on them gets bigger.
Again, people don't get the scope of Pokémon. No other game requires this level of modelling and animating.
To be fair, I want ash to stay but if he's your reason to not watch the anime. Wanting to get rid of him is not a invalid opinion
Too bad you think it looks unimpressive but that user was banned for a reason
Despite that, this ridicolous inflation of development teams is getting more and more common. For instance Grand Theft Auto, Assassin's Creed is getting up there, ...
Is it really ridiculous when you think about what it takes to make one of those games along with audience demands for bigger games. Even traditionally linear games are straight up dead at this point compared to wide linear what with Gears, Uncharted, God of War and The Last of Us adopting that approach
Yes, because it leads to such massive costs. This isn't sustainable.
Did you read the OP? Only 180-200 are developers, the rest are writers, translators, support, admin, ect.
The "shitty 3ds games" were critically and commercially super successful and are loved by millions of fans that don't post on online forums just to be angry at developers that don't cater exclusively to them.
Did you even read my post? Not sure why I waste my brilliant jokes here. Truly pearls before Swinubs.
That's not what was said.
They said only 180-200 worked directly at Game Freak as the core group but there were hundreds outsourced/external. Technically the models are mostly outsourced to Creatures Inc. They too count as developers but not in the core group
I agree, I played the game at comic Con and I was only able to play the water gym section, and it felt under-develop, very simple, and unegaging.
That was around the early middle of summer so maybe they polished the game more. I honestly wished they let us explore around the town or to be able capture Pokemons instead to get a better feel of the game.
I also believe that Pokemons shouldn't have animations because when i was battling the animations were a bit longer and it made the fight just slower and a drag to play.
I started playing persona 5 for the first time and I really like how quick and snappy the fights are.
I miss read the post I was replying too, that said there's more work to an individual Pokemon than just modeling. I initially jumped the gun and was angry about the national dex, but after reflecting, I decided to reserve judgement till the final games are out.
Big number, and yet I still feel underwhelmed by what has been presented. With such a large number I'm still baffled by the decision to use improperly scaled Pokemon in battles, especially when they chose to cut Pokemon for the sake of a higher quality experience for users. They clearly know how to scale Pokemon but when it comes to battles they're shrunken.
Probably because it's a design choice and not a limitation? It's unlikely that Game Freak never tested battles with to-scale Pokémon.
do you know the Yakuza budget and development length?
i looked at the Yakuza 6 credits and they are quite long too, also they aren't on the Switch last time i checked.
You'd think they'd at least try, Genius Sonority did it way back in 2003 with their first console game. Dynamax is already a thing. Having a Wailord the same size of a a 10 year old kid just takes me out of it, even now in the HD era.
This is a specific design choice. The models as standard are to scale. However, they shrink it down
They employ a scaling engine to scale Pokémon down in battle. This existed in X & Y, Sun & Moon and even Let's Go (despite people insisting otherwise. Check this Mewtwo example.
And USUM for comparison
And this Melmetal example
I believe that this is to make sure that ALL Pokémon can be seen at a glance in battle. As the Switch has a bigger screen, they were able to adapt this so they were closer to scale, but still needed to have some engine in place to make them match. Pokémon Camp/Refresh use the battle engine to have interactions so they too have the similar scale
I just said that it's unlikely they never tried, though. It's far more likely that they did try and ultimately decided that 100% accurate scaling wasn't good enough for them.