GF also doesn't get all of the money Pokemon makes. The majority of the Pokemon money doesn't even come from the games as well.
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Over 1000 people are working on Pokémon Sword & Shield, twice as much as for Sun & Moon [SEE STAFF POST]
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The Pokemon Company is the publisher, meaning they pay for the games.
You know I could make a snide comment about everyone forgetting about Let's Go here. But I would actually be perfectly fine with everyone forgetting about Let's Go. The only benefits of remembering Let's Go is not to make those same mistakes again.
SwSh does look significantly better than Let's Go does.
At least regarding other first party games, that's just not true. The graphical quality is similar.
I'm not concerned about graphics, since they still can improve in future games for the Switch, just like how DP - B2W2 showed a huge difference despite both being on the DS.
Maybe on the 3DS games it wasn't that noticeable the imrpovement, but hopefully the Switch will allow for more and bigger changes as they release new games
At least regarding other first party games, that's just not true. The graphical quality is similar.
What's this example supposed to show? This screenshot looks very low end/generic/bland
Let's Go actually started development after SWSH, I didn't forget it :p
Art style =/= graphical quality.
It's an industrial city, it's not supposed to be colorful.
How? Because it uses the traditional Pokemon aesthetic in high definition?
1000 people doesn't seem shocking to me.
What's shocking is that even with 1000 people it still has cuts and looks like that. I think something is inefficient in their work flow.
I think what really happened is that they employed most of 1000 really late into development to crunch until release.
What's shocking is that even with 1000 people it still has cuts and looks like that. I think something is inefficient in their work flow.
I think what really happened is that they employed most of 1000 really late into development to crunch until release.
Are they animating a single Pokemon each? Sorry I just dont see the money and people are weirdly defensive about this game but the only thing im baffled by is that this game that has sales that even EA would be jealous of cant look as good as many indie games.
Just really makes me want to take Pokemon away from these people and give it to someone that actually wants to evolve the stale formula.
I'm sorry, I just don't understand what you're trying to say. I don't follow what the example is meant for.
To my original point I just think it'd be cool if the Pokemon game looked more on the level of Breath of the Wild, or even in the ballpark, and instead it looks quite low end by comparison. It may still be a good game, but for a franchise as huge as Pokemon they could have done better.
Someone didn't even bother to read the whole quote except the title...
Well, I shouldn't have bitched about hiring a "few more devs" to include the rest of the Pokédex.
Most of these aren't in development and would probably not touch the actual development of the game. Now, you are right in that the core people are larger than the last but the decision was made before all of these hires. I get people not liking the Dex removal but this doesn't prove anything for that, it's a lateral issue.
200 core members. That's the number of people that have been there since day 1.
There are no information about when they hired the rest.
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Sorry for having an opinion. Am I not allowed to express my disappointment without being insulted for it?
And you still forget about the fact that 1000 peoples were included marketing, localize, etc... not just programmer
I know that there isnt 1000 devs working on the game but even if it were 400 people working on the game I would expect more not only by the amount of people but also by how much the franchise makes.
Seriously, what is "BotW's level" graphic? Because the best and major upgraded things about BotW is gameplay and the level of freedom, not the graphic.
It's not about any of that.
I bet if they really wished to include every single Pokémon, they would've done whatever it took to make it happen.
But it's about their priorities, according to the latest interview. Whatever ideas and features they have in mind, become too hard to implement, for whatever reason, by having that many Pokémon, so they just decided to stop struggling with that by reducing the amount of Pokémon per game.
I don't think it would've made a difference if the Dex cuts were a top-down decision from the very beginning. Between Gen V and VI they made entirely new high-poly 3D models and animations for 700+ Pokemon in XY, including Amie animations, and I can only assume that team was smaller than or on par with the core team for this game.
I think if including all the Pokemon were a part of the game's development roadmap, they would've done it. Whatever additional developers they might have had would probably have been assigned to do something else. This is all conjecture, of course, but whatever list of reasons they did the roster cuts, I don't think a lack of resources is one.
Oh please, I may not be in game development but I'm in the programming business. Scope gets expanded all the time and so is the number of staff for a project. Typically means either overtime or outsourcing later on when the original team can't handle the load.
And other games had marketing, and localization as well. That's no excuse.
I see people comparing SwSh to GF's past games to show the leap but that ain't gonna cut it. You have to compare it all games that came out this gen.
BOTW is a visually stunning game, and a wonderful accomplishment by Nintendo from a graphic/art standpoint
Yes, you are right. I am aware of that. I'm just trying to say that the numbers really don't matter much whether they are high or low, they just need to do what they think they need to do, and I fundamentally disagree with the decision they've made.
You literally insulted the devs by saying they don't care, just because oh noes the National Dex isn't in the game.
Yeah, a real travesty that could only be the result of dev laziness.
Let's compare it to Three Houses or Xenoblade 2 in handheld mode 😂
I dunno, I still think this game looks fairly plain. It definitely is visually a lot better than when it was first revealed, but, it still doesn't look as attractive to the eye as even some last gen ports (Ni No Kuni as an example, which has a really vibrant and detailed overworld, or even something simpler than SwSh like Vesperia still comes off as more appealing) do on Switch. Maybe GameFreak simply isn't as talented at visual design as some of the other developers in the industry? Maybe the level of technical wizardry just isn't there? Maybe we're underestimating how taxing all the things on screen can get? Who knows, and I'm not going to pretend to have all the answers. The actual staff count being 180-210 seems fairly small considering they do a majority of the heavy lifting, and they make games constantly. That could be the core issue. Sure, 1000 total credits is big and ambitious, but you have to imagine that still leaves a lot of the work for a fairly small studio. Also, Three Houses is absolutely worse than Pokemon in this regard I think.
I will say, as someone who isn't into Pokemon, I do very much like the character designs and most of the Pokemon they've revealed. I almost want to get it just for the gyms.
I will say, as someone who isn't into Pokemon, I do very much like the character designs and most of the Pokemon they've revealed. I almost want to get it just for the gyms.
It's visually stunning because of the scope of the world and Monolith's works on the terrain, the map.
If you scale down the world, BotW's art style is no better than SwSh's art style.
...is this serious because like these games have huge casts for all the shit they need do to outside the game you know right?
YOU LEAVE SMALL BEAN BERNIE OUT OF THIS!Here's a game from this gen:
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But it still has at least half of that, maybe around 400 unique models and 10 times animation, does that game have that too?
The issue here is that you came to a thread to whine about the unnecessary.
Edit: I see you were given the time out you needed. Good.
The real reason is that expanding only gets you so far when the old core team mostly made 2D SD games for the past decades
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Awesome to see Pokemon giving so many people jobs and livelihoods! Hopefully the company's push for yearly content has them staying on.
That post is full of false information, I would just ignore it.
Whenever I see people complaining about the national dex, it's like someone is complaining about the number of collectibles in the sequel got reduced.
Pokemon fans are crazy
I wish they hadn't removed Z moves since they had the potential to be visually stunning on Switch. Ah well.
We found out today that there are more than double the usual # of gyms. Obviously they're trying something on a much grander scale than ever before, but people aren't willing to accept that sometimes you have to make tough choices about where to spend development resources. Some of these responses read like they think 1000 people are actively on development of the game at all times, when teams like localization are probably only active for a small portion of the overall dev cycle. Please think critically & understand it's not 1000 full time developers or anything & adjust your expectations appropriately.