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Out of the sword and sandals epics of the 2000s (Gladiator, Troy, Alexander, Kingdom of Heaven, and 300) which do you enjoy the most?
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"Nothing."
"Everything."
incredible bit of dialogue with impeccable delivery. It is also the only time we see him smile. This is the man who conquered Jerusalem with his morals and nobility intact.
Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut is a contender for my top 10 of all time. Love that movie and it has held well through repeat viewings. It's probably pretty terrible movie to watch if you know about the actual events and value historical accuracy, though.
Distant second would be Gladiator followed by Troy.
Distant second would be Gladiator followed by Troy.
Colin Farrell was so wasted doing that movie he doesn't remember any of it.
Probably Gladiator. A decade ago I would have said 300, but since it came from the mind of a guy who only wanted to showcase the superiority of white male masculinity over the arab race, no thanks.
(Fuck Frank Miller)
(Fuck Frank Miller)
Best film: Directors cut Kingdom of Heaven
Most enjoyable: Gladiator
Dumb fun with good hair & very attractive people: Troy
Most interesting if flawed: Alexander
Dumb fun and shallow but stylistically interesting: 300
Most enjoyable: Gladiator
Dumb fun with good hair & very attractive people: Troy
Most interesting if flawed: Alexander
Dumb fun and shallow but stylistically interesting: 300
This is my ranking too, but you do need to set A LOT of time aside for the director's cut.
Yeah. To be expected from the frat bro writer who later went on to insert all sorts of homophobia and misogyny into Game of Thrones, though.
How do you strip as much of the supernatural elements from both the Iliad and ASOIAF as you can? Like... talk about not comprehending the source material.
Benioff just sucks.
I love this topic and such an incredibly difficult list.
Ultimately while I feel that gladiator may have had the better lead actor and tighter script, I can't help but keep revisiting KoH DC. Visually it is one of the most beautiful films in the genre and it reveals different themes to me each time I watch it. Gladiator: while glorious in its execution, is ultimately a little on the shallow end with its revenge plot.
Kingdom of heaven DC is near Lawrence of Arabia for me.
Alexander is a mess but it's incredibly accurate and dynamic in its battle scenes - Troy and 300 are on the campy fun side.
1a) KoH: DC
1b) Gladiator
3) Troy
4) Alexander
5) 300 - this only exists in my memory as memes
Ultimately while I feel that gladiator may have had the better lead actor and tighter script, I can't help but keep revisiting KoH DC. Visually it is one of the most beautiful films in the genre and it reveals different themes to me each time I watch it. Gladiator: while glorious in its execution, is ultimately a little on the shallow end with its revenge plot.
Kingdom of heaven DC is near Lawrence of Arabia for me.
Alexander is a mess but it's incredibly accurate and dynamic in its battle scenes - Troy and 300 are on the campy fun side.
1a) KoH: DC
1b) Gladiator
3) Troy
4) Alexander
5) 300 - this only exists in my memory as memes
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this is actually a really good question
I guess people lump it in as the "spiritual successor" to Gladiator from the same director around the same time, so it just... falls in here.
Gladiator and KoH: DC stand head and shoulders above the rest. Which I like more probably depends on the day. I might give the edge to Gladiator though which is more enjoyable as a rewatch.
After that, I'd say 300 just because it is a good time. The others are pretty forgettable.
After that, I'd say 300 just because it is a good time. The others are pretty forgettable.
Definitely deserves an honorable mention at least. The ROME HBO series as well.
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