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Otome Community Thread: A New Era of Beefcakes
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I was planning on doing some work for it, but the full sites are still not up. Unless someone else wanted to do it? ^-^;
Were you going to use Aksys' site for pictures or just to link to it? If the former, Otomate has several nice pictures on the Japanese site along with banners and such.
I'm going to use it for the descriptions and the banner because I can't find a Png file for the English logo. I did get some pictures from the Japanese site. If worst comes to worst, I can always use what I made for the first game's OT.
While I'm waiting for the C:R website to update, does anyone have any C:R OT title suggestions?
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Damnit.
This sounds more interesting than their other otome games. I'm also interested to hear which titles they're porting to Android since I might actually finish their games if they port their bl/otome titles.
At least it's a good game this time.
Someone should get LRG on board for the vita version :P. They're already doing Fata, an otome wouldn't hurt!
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...that's the weirdest Amazon error I've ever seen, huh. Hopefully you find some people that'll enjoy it; passing them on is very kind of you to do!
Meanwhile, I forgot to mention this- Amazon sent my own LE in a big envelope for whatever reason. I don't care that much about the outer box and it's not exactly ruined, but it did get squashed a bit and like... why not use a box?
If you could hold on to one for me while I wait for my tax return I'd appreciate it if your serious.
Are you joking? Wow, what a big error.. I'm surprised they'd let you keep them, considering there were so few LE to begin with and the ones that were available were sold out so quickly..
I'm happy with my standard copy, but it's super kind of you to help other people getting their LE! (❁´◡`❁)
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From r/Vita regarding Code Realize's LE:
"I was really perplexed as to why this was so hard to find, and why the price has more than doubled on the secondary market, so I decided to do some digging and find out what was up. Turns out Aksys has a direct phone line, so I gave them a call and asked about the print run. Apparently only 2000 were made, so its the equivalent or even smaller than a Limited Run Games release in numbers."
"I was really perplexed as to why this was so hard to find, and why the price has more than doubled on the secondary market, so I decided to do some digging and find out what was up. Turns out Aksys has a direct phone line, so I gave them a call and asked about the print run. Apparently only 2000 were made, so its the equivalent or even smaller than a Limited Run Games release in numbers."
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Wow, that's like, LRG numbers! That would definitely explain it.
As for the being sent x amount of items, it definitely happens. I had a situation where it happened to me once :x I think sometimes an entire shipment box somehow gets ships by error, instead of a single one. Dunno how that issue could be made, but it does!
I wonder how much Vita games sell. Excluding Amnesia since IFI basically gave that game away, the numbers aren't that high for otome games on Steam.
Hakuoki Kyoto Winds ~2500-4500
Hakuoki Edo Blossoms ~2000-4000
Ozmafia!! 9000-12000
Fashioning Little Miss Lonesome ~4000-7000
Nightshade ~6000-9000
Just send me a dm with your information. I'm going to be pretty busy next couple of days so I won't be able to send them until next week.
I dunno, 2000 doesn't sound like that little for a LE release of a niche game when said game also had a standard edition. But it'll be interesting knowing the numbers for the PS4 version.
It's not up to them anyway, but the JP publishers and the JP fandom is not ready to move away from the vita. Unless they're planning on porting the games then they might as well do Switch and Steam.
Hakuoki Kyoto Winds ~2500-4500
Hakuoki Edo Blossoms ~2000-4000
Ozmafia!! 9000-12000
Fashioning Little Miss Lonesome ~4000-7000
Nightshade ~6000-9000
Just send me a dm with your information. I'm going to be pretty busy next couple of days so I won't be able to send them until next week.
I dunno, 2000 doesn't sound like that little for a LE release of a niche game when said game also had a standard edition. But it'll be interesting knowing the numbers for the PS4 version.
It's not up to them anyway, but the JP publishers and the JP fandom is not ready to move away from the vita. Unless they're planning on porting the games then they might as well do Switch and Steam.
I think I've read that VNs only have to sell/are expected to sell a few thousand in order to be considered successful. Even Japanese sale numbers for Vita otome never seem to be very impressive. It's kind of a shame that's it's so hard to find reliable numbers for NA/EU game sales, I'd like to see them with my own eyes as well.
Also apparently someone posted the link that Otusun's patreon supporters got for The Bell Chimes for Gold publicly. They had to close that down and will remake a link with limited downloads. Sucks, the game is like 10 bucks. :( Pirates gonna pirate, I guess.
Also apparently someone posted the link that Otusun's patreon supporters got for The Bell Chimes for Gold publicly. They had to close that down and will remake a link with limited downloads. Sucks, the game is like 10 bucks. :( Pirates gonna pirate, I guess.
In Japan I can see that, but overseas less so. I mean, most VN's have as much text if not more than your average JRPG, but they'll aim for significantly higher sales than a few thousand
I think it's why Aksys barely publicise their otome stuff and they tend to have a lot of typos - they know the audience is small so they're effectively put out as passion projects rather than major releases.
I'm willing to bet the early stuff (Code Realize/Norn9) sold pretty well. Interested to see what the newer stuff is shifting though. I guess we'll know if it's still "enough" at AX depending on whether Aksys announce a new round of Vita otome VN's.
I don't think the genre has fully shifted elsewhere in Japan yet (PS4 is getting a few and Switch hasn't been embraced yet) so it's Vita or nothing for another year or so if they want to continue bringing them to the west. Which I really hope they do.
That's not really true. Aksys rarely publicises anything. If the audience is small than the whole VN genre is doomed. The determining factor depends on how vocal a fanbase is.
You want glaring errors and untranslated text? Try Chaos;Child. You want corrupted saves? S;G 0. You want a game with a bunch of typos? Try Dies Irae. How about some SP games which released with a horrid translation? If you want a mess - Psycho-Pass.
The otome fanbase is very vocal. This is why you're more likely to hear about any issues when it comes to otome releases than when it comes to other VNs.
I'd say the situation is similar to Ys VIII and NDRV 3. Both localizations are a mess, yet only one got traction and that's only because of the vocal Falcom fanbase.
I mean, they brought UNIELST and Tokyo Xanadu ex+ to PSX, and none of their otome games.
You're probably right, I'm just basing it on my own experiences. I didn't run into any issues with S;G 0 (and haven't played the others), but I did play Code Realize and Norn9 and remember multiple occasions where the text didn't even fit in the box properly lol. Plus some horrendous sentences, and I have a fairly high tolerance for that kind of stuff.
Just from a quick browse of my screenshots lol.
In any event, aren't you kinda proving my point with what you're saying here?
So it's all VN's that have rushed, lesser publicised releases, not just otome. Fits with what I'm saying, no?
I mean, they brought UNIELST and Tokyo Xanadu ex+ to PSX, and none of their otome games.
You're probably right, I'm just basing it on my own experiences. I didn't run into any issues with S;G 0 (and haven't played the others), but I did play Code Realize and Norn9 and remember multiple occasions where the text didn't even fit in the box properly lol. Plus some horrendous sentences, and I have a fairly high tolerance for that kind of stuff.
Just from a quick browse of my screenshots lol.
In any event, aren't you kinda proving my point with what you're saying here?
So it's all VN's that have rushed, lesser publicised releases, not just otome. Fits with what I'm saying, no?
Most VNs, even on steam, don't sell more than a few thousand copies. I don't think any company would aim higher than that whilst knowing the market. There are some exceptions of course, and games being available on Steam means they could have legs as well. Not all VNs are rushed. I think this is mostly an issue coming from the Japanese side - Japanese companies not really understanding the western market and wanting their games localized asap. This is mostly an issue with console games because companies need to work alongside Japanese devs to localize games, while PC releases are different.
Look at how Dies Irae was handled and that's a game that had competent and passionate translators.
You might say that Aksys working on so many otome games is because they don't have much else to work on (what with ArcSys and SC establishing their own western branches). But, on the other hand, look at how IFI handled their otome releases. We went from digital only (Amnesia), to not only having better LEs but actual otome themed events. And that happened more than once. IFI, the same company that has so many Compile Heart releases that they didn't have to release a single otome game. Yet they did.
Passion projects are XSEED porting a game they love to Steam and giving it a few enhancements. Passion projects don't consist of having expensive LEs, organizing events and asking fans what other otome games they want. Even Aksys is getting better in that regard, albeit a lot slower.
Edit: As far as TX ex+ and UNIELST are concerned - they aren't VNs. VNs usually don't show up at big events. The only company I can think of that did that is SP (and we all know why they did that).
But... Aksys aren't really doing those things? I mean, the LE's sure, but they're putting out LRG amounts of them which screams "we want to do this but can't justify much more than that" to me. Besides, old Steam ports is like 90% of XSEED's business these days - the last passion project I can remember them picking up was Xanadu Next.
If you're going to show your VN at an event though, why not make it the event where a load of other VN's are :P
I'm not quite sure what we're discussing at this point. I didn't mean passion project to be an offensive thing, if that's what's bothered you. I just feel like there's a team of cheerleaders within Aksys that keep bringing us these otome games (one moved over to IFI coincidentally and took Hakuoki with her) but because they're not the main focus of their localization output, they don't always get the level of QA they deserve.
If you're saying very few VN's get the level of QA they deserve because their sales target is always going to be a few thousand copies then... I don't disagree.