I mean that's fine. I'm saying I never really heal with H'aanit because there is very rarely a need to so far.
If I wasn't doing 2 groups of 4 I wouldn't even use H'aanit though.
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If I wasn't doing 2 groups of 4 I wouldn't even use H'aanit though.
It's kinda like saying a scholar is useless when you don't equip any elemental attack... it's good that you don't need it so far because the game is great with letting you have multiple options in battle.
Yeah I'm definitely gonna have to change subjobs if I want to break them quickly. They were covering their magic weaknesses so I think one guy had sword and dagger and the other had lance and axe? Not exactly easy to hit 6 times.
There are so many other options to heal with though. Out of all the base classes, Cleric seems like the most useless.
Just fought the runelord. I got him down to about 60k HP but he got me. Think I'll have to constantly shackle and leg trap him to win. The leg trap was working a treat but the second phase is complete bs and was KO'ing my party left and right. I couldn't keep up
How far are you into the game? You will need those AOE heals and revives later on.
How far are you into the game? You will need those AOE heals and revives later on.
Huh. Personally, I would only use her as a Warrior or Warmaster.
Just finished Olberic's chapter 3:
After finishing all the chapter 2's I was feeling a bit dissapointed, but Olberic's and Alfyn's chapter 3's were pretty good, can't wait to see the rest!
Was pretty cool when Olberic and Erhardt finally met back to back to fight together haha
But I found it strange how Olberic just forgives Erhardt after the fight, just before it he was saying that, although he was searching for it in his heart, he could not forgive him for what he had done, but after the fight he just accepts it and moves on to the other guy on the list? Hmmm was a bit strange for me, but really enjoyed this chapter.
But I found it strange how Olberic just forgives Erhardt after the fight, just before it he was saying that, although he was searching for it in his heart, he could not forgive him for what he had done, but after the fight he just accepts it and moves on to the other guy on the list? Hmmm was a bit strange for me, but really enjoyed this chapter.
After finishing all the chapter 2's I was feeling a bit dissapointed, but Olberic's and Alfyn's chapter 3's were pretty good, can't wait to see the rest!
Thief lets me do attack down and weakness physical, allowing Alfyn to come in and clinically remove all bodyparts. And then distribute SP when need be. Cleric defense buffs would be great, but they only target one person which is unfortunate. (I am unsure if there is a super move which lets you use skills on the whole party)
Finished all story 4's for this team, now going around and doing all the level 50-55 Dungeons and any of the advanced job Shrines I come across.
Dancer at least allows you to get luckless sellsword who can do a massive debuff to bosses
Yeah I think Dancer wins for worst class, plenty of other ways to pick up Dark damage and I've personally never used the buffs a ton. Bewildering Grace is its own category though.
Me after Primrose causes a full party silence, a full set of stat debuffs on my party, a thing that seals your items/concoct, and an explosion: It's the Bewildering Grace.
(Dancer has great passive abilities though!)
Peacock strut is pretty useful in conjunction with the Sorcerer elemental defense down and Clerics special move.
6x buffed spells on debuffed bosses does a pretty large amount of damage.
But once again like everyone is saying. The mix and matching in this game is designed well, there are so many combinations you can do that work well.
Yeah, shackle foe and corrode are useful. But every other class has more going for it than two good support skills and a weak double hit skill. Most notably divines that are way better.
It's easier to just use items or concoct.
Cleric is the best class for activating Saving Grace and its ultimate is a huge factor in dealing the most damage possible during a break.
And in general, Boosted Revive is kind of nuts from a base skill power level.
Re: last page: Dancer divine skill works on buffs? Damn -- I'd been meaning to try it out but the wording of the spell (it specifically says 'foes") made me think it wouldn't. This opens up a whole new ballgame.
Status update for me:
I've now finished four Chapter 2s. Tressa (MC) is Lv42, every one else is late 20s-30s except Cyrus who is around 20. Other notable achievements include getting Wizard's Staff and Forbidden Blade (I have enough for the Bow as well, and Staff but its worse than Wizard's). I've unlocked Warrior, Merchant, Dancer and Apothecary as subjobs now.
My basic route has been to travel clockwise doing all of the character's stories and then Tressa's next chapter ahead of time (so I'll be coming up on her third pretty quick here). Haven't been doing a ton of fast travel other than to do sidequests or where there isn't much point heading back by foot (from Goldshore back to Cobbleston after doing those those chapter 2s for example). Been able to do most of the side dungeons minus the Leviathan (I only gave it one try and said I'll come back). I arrange my party based on who I want to see interact in side dialogue more than anything.
It's cool to see all the ways people are playing since some are so different compared to me!
Status update for me:
I've now finished four Chapter 2s. Tressa (MC) is Lv42, every one else is late 20s-30s except Cyrus who is around 20. Other notable achievements include getting Wizard's Staff and Forbidden Blade (I have enough for the Bow as well, and Staff but its worse than Wizard's). I've unlocked Warrior, Merchant, Dancer and Apothecary as subjobs now.
My basic route has been to travel clockwise doing all of the character's stories and then Tressa's next chapter ahead of time (so I'll be coming up on her third pretty quick here). Haven't been doing a ton of fast travel other than to do sidequests or where there isn't much point heading back by foot (from Goldshore back to Cobbleston after doing those those chapter 2s for example). Been able to do most of the side dungeons minus the Leviathan (I only gave it one try and said I'll come back). I arrange my party based on who I want to see interact in side dialogue more than anything.
It's cool to see all the ways people are playing since some are so different compared to me!
Lol. Are you kidding? Therion was the heavy hitter on my team thanks to that move. Hits all enemies and scales with speed (on a Thief no less)? Shit is legit. Have a fast Merchant to give BP and he can kill every group of mobs in a single move well before you get the Sorcerer. I love the Thief class.
Add onto those you can have the Dancer cast their ult to have Cleric make the whole group reflect magic boosted times. All the classes are great.
The biggest reason I say Dancer is garbo outside of early game is because all the OP builds already use the perma-buff in Elemental Edge/Physical Prowess. So it's main purpose becomes dark damage which Runelord/Sorc do better, and Bewildering Grace. The ult is pretty decent though.
In your case, I would go with the following:
Olberic with Warmaster: Access to every weapon type in the game, high HP and defense. Your all-purpose tank.
Ophilia with Starseer: Best healer in the game, and starseer will provide her with a decent multi-element attack spell and some useful buffs
Cyrus with Sorcerer: The ultimate doombringer. Access to every offensive elemental spell in the game. Can use Ophilia's divine cleric skill to effectively cast six spells per turn and break enemy defenses in a jiffy (or ruin the game by doling out 200K damage per turn).
Tressa with Runelord: Can use runelord skills to transfer elemental augments to other characters. When applied to high elemental attack characters like Cyrus or Ophelia, can absolutely wreck everything in the main game with standard staff hits doing anywhere from 30-50K damage provided you equip skills to break the damage limit. She can also transfer her merchant sidestep skill to make your party effectively immune to physical damage.
I've been using H'aanit instead of Olberic because she's close enough, and Therion instead of Tressa because I selected him as my main. Therion is really, really good for the bulk of the game, but I'm trying to sub him out with Tressa for the post-game because of her sidestep ability. His steal and share SP skills are great, but in the late game you'll have more money than you know what to do with and can easily afford to buy as much as SP recovery items as you want.
How do you guys make thief do good damage? Granted my Therion is underleveled now but I benched him early as he seemed really useless compared to warriors and scholars.
What subclass works well with him too? I had him as an Apothecary but that seemed just as useless.
What subclass works well with him too? I had him as an Apothecary but that seemed just as useless.
Never figured how to do good damage with him as a thief outside of his divine. I just made him a cleric, with good equipment he was healing 2000+ HP with non-boosted Heal More and dealing pretty decent damage with fire and light magic.
You use sp steal, once you get him maxed and unlock his divine his damage potential goes way up he starts off kinda suport heavy
Also I mostly just need help with a team for Ophilia's ch 3 boss. Need to swap around classes for quick breaks against sword/dagger and lance/axe.
Ophilia/Scholar, Cyrus/Merchant, Olberic/Hunter, Primrose/Cleric isn't cutting it.
Mostly need to swap Primrose I think, but I can't help but looking at classes like Thief and Apothecary that might help with breaking as dead weight otherwise.
Ophilia/Scholar, Cyrus/Merchant, Olberic/Hunter, Primrose/Cleric isn't cutting it.
Mostly need to swap Primrose I think, but I can't help but looking at classes like Thief and Apothecary that might help with breaking as dead weight otherwise.
Just better % I believe, if you want more money you need to equip the thief skill that doubles it
Clocked in at 72 hours, and I think I'm done.
I also tried to do as many sidequests as possible, but I disliked how random everything seemed. The clues are super vague most of the time; often I would have the quest items before I got the quest, getting them ten, twenty hours back. I got bored running around towns randomly looking for orange flags. Even though the rewards were often nice, none of the actual quests were particularly engaging either, which is a shame.
I was higher on the game before this last stretch; maybe I'll appreciate it a bit more upon later reflection. The battle system, music, and sprite work were all masterful, the ambition to do something different within a classic aesthetic was welcomed, but the game could have used another year for narrative content and design tweaks, IMO. 8/10.
Flawed as it was, the chapter structure gave me a sense of forward momentum and progression. I miss that post-game. Finding and beating the four subjob bosses was fun, but I'm struggling to find opportunities to utilize them. I know it's unrealistic to ask for more content in a game where I spent 70+ hours in, but the scarcity of areas for higher levels after the crew is fully powered up is a bit of a letdown. The final dungeon sounds like a big chore, and there doesn't seem to be much else.
I also tried to do as many sidequests as possible, but I disliked how random everything seemed. The clues are super vague most of the time; often I would have the quest items before I got the quest, getting them ten, twenty hours back. I got bored running around towns randomly looking for orange flags. Even though the rewards were often nice, none of the actual quests were particularly engaging either, which is a shame.
I was higher on the game before this last stretch; maybe I'll appreciate it a bit more upon later reflection. The battle system, music, and sprite work were all masterful, the ambition to do something different within a classic aesthetic was welcomed, but the game could have used another year for narrative content and design tweaks, IMO. 8/10.
eh, don't worry about me, if anything i get more excited when i see a better weapon to steal
Dancer/Warrior is pretty fun
Stack some evasion equips and watch enemies miss her and get hit. Bonus points if you either break the enemy or set a status effect with the weapon. I guess it mostly works because she is my main char and she is always overleveled. Because countering doesnt take a turn she is still free to buff someone or even herself
Stack some evasion equips and watch enemies miss her and get hit. Bonus points if you either break the enemy or set a status effect with the weapon. I guess it mostly works because she is my main char and she is always overleveled. Because countering doesnt take a turn she is still free to buff someone or even herself
Does anyone know where the Refuge Ruins are? They're supposed to be in the Riverlands but I can't seem to locate them. Thanks if you know!
I am level 27 and finally found some cave
I think I am really bad at RPGs sometimes. They always take me forever to beat cause of stuff like this
that stored the Thief subclass. Had no idea this is how you unlock other jobs....
I think I am really bad at RPGs sometimes. They always take me forever to beat cause of stuff like this
They're next to Riverford (a chap 4 town).
Edit: Disclaimer sub-jobbing as a Ninja >.<
Haha. I had 4 characters and decided to explore towards the outside of the starting dount, from olberic town and I ended up finding the warrior subjob. I dont remember any npc hinting at that so no idea how we were supposed to find out
yeah I guess its supposed to be a secret? dang... this would've made my life way easier
Just had a marathon chapter 2 boss battle accidentally ending with a party wipe by some crazy strong magic attack. Ouch. Gonna take like another 40 minutes to try that again!
This game is really fun though. The job stuff mixed with the battle mechanics make it more than a pretty thing.
This game is really fun though. The job stuff mixed with the battle mechanics make it more than a pretty thing.