Dead naming someone is not cool. You would refer to them as their preferred pronouns and their current name.
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Oscar-Nominated ‘Umbrella Academy’ Star Elliot Page Announces He Is Transgender
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Dead naming someone is not cool. You would refer to them as their preferred pronouns and their current name.
So awesome to see. I remember how horrendous we were about this topic. In 2009, I had a nasty ex co-worker refer to another trans co-worker as "the Thing". That wasn't even that long ago. I hope kids today and in the future will have to endure less pain.
Not a dumb question when asked sincerely. Always refer to trans people with their preferred pronouns, no matter if it's in the past tense. When you refer to them in that way, it's called deadnaming and it's very hurtful. They weren't suddenly "not" trans in the past, they were just not public about it.
You should always use a person's current pronoun preference to describe their history, even if the events occurred before they came out as trans.
If you were trying to convey the information about his role in the movie as well as the credit name situation you could say something like, "Elliot Page starred in the movie Juno and was credited as 'Ellen Page' at the time of production."
I don't believe this counts as dead naming since it's just referring to the fact of how he was credited in the movie.
Retroactive
I specially like wikipedia's guideline
Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Gender identity - Wikipedia
Good for him! Really excited to see what roles he's in going forward.
Singular they - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Those are good examples of the use of "they" to decrescibe a single individual. TL something new.
All above is correct.
IMDb does that for even things like people changing the spelling of their name or various things. It's done as
Current Name (as previous name), so in this case for records purposes it's Elliot Page (as Ellen Page).
Congratulations to Elliot! May the future only get better and better from here on out!
LOL
Congrats to him.
I always liked Ellen's acting, and I'm sure I'll feel the same way about Elliot.
Now I just gotta retrain my brain a little when talking about him in the future.
I always liked Ellen's acting, and I'm sure I'll feel the same way about Elliot.
Now I just gotta retrain my brain a little when talking about him in the future.
Good for him
Seeing lots of transphobes on twitter and I'm not surprised :/ really disappointing
good luck to Elliot on his journey
Seeing lots of transphobes on twitter and I'm not surprised :/ really disappointing
good luck to Elliot on his journey
I have seen game companies modify credits before. I don't think Naughty Dog ever did anything with them. Quantic Dreams did, and I'm... er... not sure that company would be one that would bother, I think.
Nah, it would only be for Beyond: Two Souls which is a one-off game that is old now. The name "Ellen Page" was never in a Naughty Dog game btw lol, you are just thinking of Ellie.
The people questioning Vanya seem to forget that Elliot Page is an actor. No reason they cannot continue to portray a character they've come to embody over two seasons of television. Vanya becoming trans would be a nice acknowledgement of Elliot's transition and if Elliot thinks its important I'm sure he'll press the issue. But like...Vanya can still be Vanya as portrayed by Elliot Page.
Oh my, I feel like an ass now.
But hypothetically, Beyond could.
Good for them
I wonder how Vanya will be done, but the show has been pretty open to keeping Vanya around.
I assume it wouldn't be hard? It's basically a piece of text as long as it isn't hard coded onto the videos?
Might be more difficult for the marketing images.
I wonder how Vanya will be done, but the show has been pretty open to keeping Vanya around.
I assume it wouldn't be hard? It's basically a piece of text as long as it isn't hard coded onto the videos?
Might be more difficult for the marketing images.
Congrats to Elliot.
This is going to help educate people in a big way. Elliot is a high profile individual. Hopefully their story will connect to folks who are well meaning but lack the proper education or exposure to trans issues.
This is going to help educate people in a big way. Elliot is a high profile individual. Hopefully their story will connect to folks who are well meaning but lack the proper education or exposure to trans issues.
Oh wow, I loved him as an actress. Hope he will have a great career. Still gotta say Im a bit shocked
In a similar case, Japanese actor Shiki Aoki came out as a transgender man earlier this year, and he announced he would be continuing his past roles, even if the majority of them were female characters because he was comfortable doing so.
I'd say it would depend on whether Elliot is comfortable continuing to play a female character whether the umbrella academy stays the same, but I could see them changing the character as well. It's just up to what he's comfortable with.
I'd say it would depend on whether Elliot is comfortable continuing to play a female character whether the umbrella academy stays the same, but I could see them changing the character as well. It's just up to what he's comfortable with.
I dont think Ellie was officially licensed. Obviously she us modelled after him.not so fast
beyond two souls was officially licensed though
The first model of Ellie closely resembled Elliott, the one that released not so much.
Does this make Elliott the highest profile trans person in the world? There's the potential for a lot of good to come out of this, but that's also an awful lot of pressure for one person. I hope everything turns out okay for him.
It'd still cost money. Could happen of course but I gotta doubt it'll happen. Separate printed material like covers, etc though ain't happening of course which is another reason I doubt they'll bother.
Lots of learning going on today. More support from an X-Men costar:
Remains to be seen. Not a requirement at all though.
Remains to be seen. Not a requirement at all though.
I agree Hollywood needs more trans men! However, I gotta nitpick you. From the article:
So it's not really proper to say Elliot is a trans man despite the masculine pronoun. He or they is trans non-binary instead.
I think at 8 pages it's probably too late to course-correct the thread, but tormented could you maybe edit the OP to explicitly say he identifies as non-binary? This thread has been pleasantly pretty good but I am seeing a few people stumble and assume Elliot fully identifies as male, which admittedly I did too until I saw that article quote.