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Oscar-Nominated ‘Umbrella Academy’ Star Elliot Page Announces He Is Transgender
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Good for him. Always been a favorite actor.
Im curious how this will effect the role of Vanya in Umbrella Academy S3.
Im curious how this will effect the role of Vanya in Umbrella Academy S3.
I remember lots of commentary back in the day along the lines of "Why doesn't Ellen Page dress more sexy and more feminine? We demand it!" from the Hollywood gossip machine. Now that they've come out as Elliot, it re-frames that whole thing as even more gross. Good for them for finally being able to be their real self.
For some people gender is fluid to a degree that they're comfortable with multiple pronouns. It kinda varies depending on the person, though, so it's best not to speak on their behalf.
"They" is both plural and a nominative singular pronoun. Such as in this example:
"My best friend from high school is famous now—too bad we didn't stay in touch after they moved to California."
Non-binary folks just take that common usage and make it more of a general pronoun. Grammar's always changed with the times, really.
First, congrats!
Second: Just for my understanding (and let me know if this isn't okay to ask), the spectrum is a big part of it, right?
So for example, Elliot identifies as he/him but is also non-binary - is that because he identifies more with one side of the non-binary spectrum than the other? I've not been able to find many resources explaining this.
Second: Just for my understanding (and let me know if this isn't okay to ask), the spectrum is a big part of it, right?
So for example, Elliot identifies as he/him but is also non-binary - is that because he identifies more with one side of the non-binary spectrum than the other? I've not been able to find many resources explaining this.
I wonder if they are going to write season 3 with this in mind, that would be great because the character was kind of boring in season 2 and putting some authenticity in it could go a long way.
That's super cool. It's great that there's such a high-profile person coming out as trans. I'm sure it means a lot to transfolk who don't see much representation for themselves.
Good for him! Really excited to see what roles he's in going forward.
en.wikipedia.org
Singular they - Wikipedia
Singular they has existed since the 14th century. So you are not actually correct.
As a fellow grammar nerd, I know it can be difficult to get used to but it helps with some history:
A brief history of gender neutral pronouns
Sam Smith asked fans to use they/them but history shows these pronouns aren't new in language.
www.bbc.com
Think of gender like a venn diagram in this instance, Elliot Page lands where he and they overlap.
If someone's identifying with more than one set of pronouns, then they're saying it's okay to use anything they've listed.
Them isn't just a plural. It's pretty common to say something like "they're really cool" or "they've just gone to the shops" about a singular person. It's not new, but it is gender neutral.
Gaycation was the last thing I saw with him in it, and I really enjoyed it, I'm really happy for him! He'll continue to go far.
You're right. No reason she couldn't. That would be huge and amazing.
I don't know if Elliot IDs as nonbinary and I don't want to speak on his behalf but it can spectrum of both identity and presentation. So Elliot may identify as nonbinary and present as masculine or identify as transmasculine nonbinary (for example I believe this is how Ian Alexander identifies). Or perhaps he is transmasculine and simply okay with they/them pronouns as well as he/him. There's a lot of different factors and it's very personal.
I'm so happy for him. His letter on Twitter was beautiful, and straight to the point: everyone spewing transphobia has blood on their hands.
They identify as non-binary. It may sound strange for people that speak very gendered languages like portuguese, french, spanish, where nouns and verbs change according to the gender, but you can and should get used to it.
I see. That isn't a form that is used where I am from. He/She would be used there almost always in my locality. Thanks
I don't watch the show or know much about it, really. But that's more on Elliot to decide, I feel. If he wants to/is comfortable to play a female character, have the character be trans as well or opt to have the role re-cast with a female actress. Regardless of what happens, the showrunners cannot be the ones that have the ultimate say in this.
I hope Elliot stay, I love him in the show. I can't wait to hear the cast reactions to this wonderful news.
Man I feel this is kinda big. Especially since Elliot is probably the first celeb in the spotlight that I've seen come up thru the years. Man I still remember thinking they were gonna be a big deal after Hard Candy. Always been a fan of them on and off camera.
Huge congrats to Elliott!
What a massive moment this must be. I hope this is as freeing as he has always hoped it would be.
What a massive moment this must be. I hope this is as freeing as he has always hoped it would be.