That's actually not a bad idea.
Nolan's also got the clout to get the second film pushed through if the first underperforms.
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Oscar Isaac to join Villeneuve’s DUNE
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That's actually not a bad idea.
Nolan's also got the clout to get the second film pushed through if the first underperforms.
Great casting all around so far.
I wonder which direction the soundtrack will go. Even though the soundtrack for BR2049 was good, it was not Vangelis good.
I wonder which direction the soundtrack will go. Even though the soundtrack for BR2049 was good, it was not Vangelis good.
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LOL what?
You think that Nolan simply telling the studio "Do it" if they take a $100m+ bath on the first film will see them saying 'Yeah, okay Chris!' if he were producing?
Nolan has serious clout at WB and he's one of the few genuine marque directors in the industry so if the receipts were soft he might have the clout to push it through.
It doesn't matter because this is all hypothetical regardless.
Because the novel is acclaimed by everyone and represents a potentially brilliant sci fi film franchise if adapted well.
I wouldn't have a problem with them re-using the TOTO/Brian Eno theme from the Lynch movie, it was one of the best things about the film.
This sounds better and better with each new news drop.
Came here expecting dancing Oscar. Not disappointed.
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Bro. Nolan doesn't have the sort of clout to make a studio green light a sequel to a bomb that he's simply serving as producer on. Nobody does outside of a studio head.
If Battle Angel bombs, not even Cameron would have the clout to get the sequel greenlit as producer. And he's got more sway than Nolan.
Dune's cast is shaping up nicely.
WB has nothing to do with this movie.
WB has nothing to do with this movie.
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Well, clearly it would depend on the variables. If the first film lost the studio hundreds of millions (think John Carter) then yes, nobody - not Nolan or anyone else - is going to push that through.
But if the film did middling and had a decent performance on video and streaming then somebody like Nolan might be able to get it through. (Probably with severe budget cuts and plenty of concessions)
Yep, you're correct.
I thought because Legendary Pictures was producing this that WB was handling distribution but apparently they also work with Universal.
I'm holding out hope but Bladerunner 2049's box office performance doesn't fill me with hope.
Why bring Nolan into this, Villeneuve is great on his own, guy has ballsy balls to try and make this coming from BR2049. Although great movie, one of the best movies of that year, it was not a commercial success as the marvel movies.
Most likely Dune will go the same, hopefully it breaks even at least (or make some kind of profit)
Most likely Dune will go the same, hopefully it breaks even at least (or make some kind of profit)
It is kind of weird that. He's taking on older projects that didn't really return their initial cost in full.
When they first came out, but he still got it green-light. He must have some sort of clout to get another big movie like this to make, though we don't know the budget this will have. For sure this will need a much bigger marketing budget and a creative at that to push into the mind space of movie goers.
They're making an adaptation of one of the most famous and beloved science fiction novels of all time.
He's got his work cut out for him if the movie needs it to be excellent and profitable.
Venom and Aquaman are dumb as rocks but they hit WW billion.
Dune is slow af.
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I think it is relatively pretty hard to get an R-rating these days if there is no gratuitous violence or nudity (which Dune doesn't really have much of).
When I read remake I looked up the movie.
Makes sense.
Well, there's an abundance of people getting stabbed and cut...
Tall, olive skin, dark hair, hawk-like nose, or at least there's an allusion to Atreides having hawk-like profile later on, IIRC. Stern and charismatic.
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I'm nervous that this will be more Bladerunner 2049 than Arrival. I'm not sure if Dune is the kind of source material that allows you to dig deep into the characters. At least the book doesn't. And I've not been impressed with Villeneuve's work when he tries to go big. But I guess we'll see.
Nah he will do another sequel/remake to an old sci-fi boxoffice flop, I vote Enemy Mine.
With Jaden Smith as Akira please
edit: wait his name is tetsuo idk who the star is anymore shotaro or tetsuo - I guess Taylor Kitsch could be one and Jaden the other
Not entirely true. It's a Legendary picture which means WB will likely be handling distribution.
If this bombs after BR2049 bombed, I think Villeneuve takes a trip to big budget blockbuster director jail and/or returns to smaller films.
Well, technically it's not hard sci-fi like The Martian and Interstellar. But yeah, I wonder if they'll make a hit out of this.
Can't wait to see it though.
The Martian and Insterstellar are more grounded and based on near future technology. Dune is very hard fantasy sci-fi with heavy political and religious themes. It's definitely a hard sell for widespread audience.
Hoping for the best though!
Kind literally hard (as in difficult) scifi... Figure it is really hard to translate to film. Visually, not too bad, just need mostly desert and robed people wearing, uh, wet suits, plus mix in some futuristic buildings and one or two space ships. Plot is basically a revenge story, and not too bad in itself. But getting other stuff through... that's another matter.
Like, how does one communicate the feudal structure of the Imperium? Fiefdom's and why Arrakis is a trap? The deeper reasons behind the Harkonnen's plot? And what about the Kwisatz Haderach and the Bene Gesserit plotting, not to mention a subtler one in their everyday role in the Imperium? Or the Fremen and their desire for paradise, and the ecological theme of Dune? The spice allowing for hydraulic despotism? Or a million other things. While avoiding info-dumps, they don't work too well in film medium, in the book they're usually integrated rather well IMO, and occasionally are relevant due to being actually very important to the plot (such as the stillsuit, its importance to the Fremen, and how it truly enables their existence, which in turn feeds into their religion).
No doubt a lot of that can be cut, perhaps. Indeed it might be better to distill Dune down to very few things, though picking few things and focusing on them isn't necessarily simple either.
I expect the film will probably fail (commercially certainly, and as an adaptation probably, critically possibly divisive), as much as i like Villeneuves's films, but i'll be very interested and excited to see what he can do. I am enormous Dune fan and like Lynch's film quite a bit despite all its flaws.
I guess you're in luck then? Dune is as far from "hard sci-fi" as you can get. It has more fantastical elements than Star Wars. The entire Dune universe runs on worm-spunk magic.
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