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Ori and the Will of the Wisps - Preload is up (10.05gb on Xbox) and Achievement list revealed
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Really? That's quite shorter than I was hoping. How long did the first game take you?
That's longer than the first game for me. First game clocked me in at like uhh 6 hours on steam? It's not an incredibly long game, but what's there is really tight.
I feel like it was longer than 6 hours though, that seems weird, but not totally off. I could be wrong. It felt like a meaty game. But there definitely wasn't like, a ton of back and forth all over the place. It's a metroidvania style world but not necessarily in terms of gameplay.
Sounds like this game is a bit different in that regard. Sidequests sound like a neat addition.
I'm going to go replay the first game right now I think and see how long it takes me. I never played enhanced edition.
Why are people like this.
That's much shorter than what I was expecting. Does it give you a %? The first Ori was around that for 100% (though idk how the time was counted).
Edit: I see it was answered below.
Finished the first one today, 7:30 hours for me. If I do the Definitive Edition extra world it will probably 8 hours.
So I just completed every sidequest in the game at 10h 43m. Total completion 95%. Still have to find a few leftover things that are quite well hidden. Normal difficulty.
If I remember correctly, I finished Blind forest at about 11h. I didn't play definitive edition though. Which I intend to fix 🙂
Huh, I was excepting you to say you finished Blind Forest in like 5h and that's why WotW took you only 10h... So WotW took you shorter than Blind Forest even without the Definitive Edition content? That's really strange to me because they did say WotW is "3x scope, scale and size" of Blind Forest
That's dissapointing to hear.
Specially when Thomas said this game is 3x the size of the original Ori.
Not really. I wanted it to be longer too before playing it, but the game did not leave me with the impression that I played too little.
These were one of the best 11 h I've spent on a game in a very long time.
I really don't remember blind forest that well, but there are a lot of traversal skills here that make getting around super fast, and fast travel too.
Golden rule: when a developer says how long a game is, take around 75% of that and you have a realistic estimate, exceptions notwithstanding.
Lol, that should have been a red flag right away.
It's never as long as the devs claim it would be, never, not in game length, content, or features. 50-75% of that and you have the real number. Always.
11 hours is fairly standard length for a Metroidvania. 20+ hours makes it long.
Hollow Knight is just insane. In a good way, but man that's a lot of content.
Hollow Knight is just insane. In a good way, but man that's a lot of content.
I'm relieved that it's "only" around 10 hours give or take. Now I'm more excited to play the game! I was getting weary at the thought of a 20-30 hour long platformer.
Too many games these days are too long for no gods damned reason. (Well except to appease the masses who somehow prefer bloat over substance).
Too many games these days are too long for no gods damned reason. (Well except to appease the masses who somehow prefer bloat over substance).
Couple of things to consider here: You have a lot of traversal options in Will of the Wisps, you get the Dash very, very, very early this time around, so you can zip around the map much faster (which means a much bigger map doesn't necessarily mean tons more playtime) - You also can warp from anywhere you want, which makes traversing the map again much faster. Also, the Completion Percentage isn't entirely 'accurate', it's just counting the map percentage, not whether or not you've done all sidequests, got all skills, all upgrades, etc.
From our playtests we usually saw people spending 12-15 or so hours for their playthrough and if they wanted to get everything, it usually clocked in at quite a lot more than that. I highly doubt that Axecidentally actually got all skills, all shards and upgraded everything - If he did all that in 10 hours, I'm impressed, cause I don't think even I can do it in that time :D We designed WotW so that re-playing the game would also be more fun than in Ori and the Blind Forest or other Metroidvanias since you have a lot of variety in terms of skills and it matters a lot which skills you go for right from the start. On top of all that, we also have modes like the Spirit Trials in there or the Quick Access feature, in which you can re-play some of the most spectacular moments in the game.
We did the same thing we did in Blind Forest and tried to keep the game as tight as possible. There isn't any unnecessary padding in Will of the Wisps. We could've easily done that, but... do people really care about stuff like 'Find all the Triforce pieces!' at some point in the game? No, I'd rather play a game that's tight where every second was worthwhile and the game didn't waste my time than to proudly stick '50 hours of content' onto the box. A 3 hour long film isn't necessarily better than a 2 hour long film. Good editing matters. A lot.
From our playtests we usually saw people spending 12-15 or so hours for their playthrough and if they wanted to get everything, it usually clocked in at quite a lot more than that. I highly doubt that Axecidentally actually got all skills, all shards and upgraded everything - If he did all that in 10 hours, I'm impressed, cause I don't think even I can do it in that time :D We designed WotW so that re-playing the game would also be more fun than in Ori and the Blind Forest or other Metroidvanias since you have a lot of variety in terms of skills and it matters a lot which skills you go for right from the start. On top of all that, we also have modes like the Spirit Trials in there or the Quick Access feature, in which you can re-play some of the most spectacular moments in the game.
We did the same thing we did in Blind Forest and tried to keep the game as tight as possible. There isn't any unnecessary padding in Will of the Wisps. We could've easily done that, but... do people really care about stuff like 'Find all the Triforce pieces!' at some point in the game? No, I'd rather play a game that's tight where every second was worthwhile and the game didn't waste my time than to proudly stick '50 hours of content' onto the box. A 3 hour long film isn't necessarily better than a 2 hour long film. Good editing matters. A lot.
Will the game support 120fps on PC?
Debating trying to play at 1080p/120fps on my PC vs however the Xbox One X handles it (I'm guessing 4K/30fps?)
Debating trying to play at 1080p/120fps on my PC vs however the Xbox One X handles it (I'm guessing 4K/30fps?)
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It was not Thomas that said it's 3x btw. It was "Daniel Smith, senior producer at Xbox Games Studios"
Here's the quote
" 'A lot of people completed Blind Forest in roughly eight hours, and thought that it was a positive experience,' explains Daniel Smith, senior producer at Xbox Games Studios, who has been attached to the Ori projects since before the first title launched.
'But our community told us that there wasn't a lot of draw to come back in once they'd completed the title. They just wanted more. So we took that to heart – this game is three times the size, and scope, and scale of Blind Forest.' "
That's true. But I expected at least twice the length to be honest
Ah, gotcha! Never played the first one! Might just play it on Xbox then!
I did get all skills, all shards, upgraded all skills ( not all shards). I did all sidequests too. I also got all health and energy upgrades.
I also upgraded everything there is to upgrade other than the shards. And I mean everything! Don't wanna spoil anything though!
Got the achievements to prove it too! 😜
I completely agree with the traversal options too, which is what I pointed out. Traversal here is do awesome!
For sure. It looks, sounds and plays incredible.
And its memorable, which is something few games manage, at least for me.
I only played Blind forest once but the story is still fresh in my mind. The story, characters and the world of will of the wisps is gonna stay with me for a long time too.
Wow, then I'm legit impressed by your playtime. I just watched streams from GameInformer and Maximilian Dood yesterday and they spent about 6 hours and barely just finished Act1 while still missing out on the optional content. So you doing all 3 Acts and everything in 10 hours must mean that you're pretty damn good :D
What difficulty mode did you play it on?
I played on normal. I didn't feel like I rushed either, I mean, I didn't play with the intention of going fast if you know what I mean.
My current time is just shy of 11h with all I posted.
That sounds good. You're right, one of the things I hate the most in games is padding. There are so many games to play, and here I am forced to play through padded, boring content to get to the good parts... I'm glad you didn't go that route. Still, I might have to go with the hard difficulty to get to spend more time with the game in my first playthrough even though you advise against it. You can change the difficulty on the fly, right?
I wouldn't take this one person's experience as proof the game is 10-11h on average. 20-30 hours is perhaps an expectation HK set for you, but remember that Team Cherry mentioned several times how easy it was for them to produce ridiculous amounts of content because it was just easy to create content for Hollow Knight because of the simplistic approach they took. That definitely is not the case for Ori for a lot of reasons
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This. We all play differently so you could perfectly take 15 hours to finish it the first time.
Don't get me wrong, i loved the blind forest and i think i'll love the will of the wisps even more. But yeah, Hollow Knight here setted the expectation up to 20-30 hours, at least. Also, i am the kind of player who joins the moment, go on slow, so maybe 15 hours could be there to play with new Ori. Easly.
But: many years from first episode, an entire team (not just 3 people) to work on it, all these hype waiting for it. It could set standards, it could be the huge masterpiece of metroidvania with no doubts, no contro.
For the future, guess what? Ori will be the game 'it could be more than that'.
Sorry, it's just i found out this and have to face my hype.
Hollow Knight sucks specifically because of its length, imo. I was 12 hours in and had just finally got most all of the QoL map stuff you would expect from a metroidvania game in the 2010s and I was like "yeah, I'm good on this."
I don't wanna say hollow knight isn't pretty. But ori is on a whole other level to be honest. I mean, looking at it, just looking at it, I completely understand the time it took to be made.
I just 100%'d the first Ori so I'm ready for this one now!
Game length sounds good. It's probably something I'll play through a few times if it's as fun and tightly designed as it sounds.
Game length sounds good. It's probably something I'll play through a few times if it's as fun and tightly designed as it sounds.
Talking about hours played with no context is silly. A well paced, consistently crafted 10 hour game is superior to an inconsistent, padded 20 hour game every fucking time. Well paced, consistent quality games are replayable.
You can increase length of games with bullshit. I do not expect bullshit from Moon.
You can increase length of games with bullshit. I do not expect bullshit from Moon.
Yeah I loved both in very different ways. Ori was more of a traditional platformer with MV level design, whereas HK really went all in on the level design and exploration but wasn't great at the platforming. HK felt a little too long for my liking and I wasn't keen on the map system, but it was still an amazing experience.
But it's annoying when people just go on and on about a single game in any particular genre and ignore the rest "because they're not as good" or whatever, rather than enjoying every game on its individual merits.
Thomas already confirmed 120fps support on PC.
Well, there are some 30 hour game with no bullshit inside. I was just hoping for more, that's it. Will be awesome anycase.