You have an accesability option to activate bullet time in TLOU 2.. is hella fun.
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Opinion - TLOU 2 is one of the best controlling shooters of this gen. Just mechanically sublime
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You have an accesability option to activate bullet time in TLOU 2.. is hella fun.
Max Payne 3 fails to make guns feel powerful with the sound design though, TLOU 2 is way ahead on making them sound satisfying.
I think that some of the cover and quick changes for mines / non-guns are more finicky than they could be and the overall lack of ammo / weapon variety (per character) stands out in stark contrast to the first game, but yeah it plays great. Stealth is a little OP and it's easier overall and you can't turn echolocation off to my knowledge like you can in the first.
Yep, it pretty great to play. Probably my favorite tps this gen. I'm currently playing the game on survival+ and I'm having a pretty good time.
I mean, the thread title was that it was one of the best. Those are also some of the best. I don't see a problem here?
(Wouldn't include Gears in the conversation, personally. I think The Coalition did a great job of working within the constraints a game beholden to a wall-bouncing shotgun toting multiplayer audience that they don't want to upset. However its take on TPS gameplay isn't so much classic as it is tired and I wish the series had left it behind the moment it was handed over to new stewards.)
"We" ?
It's not an uncommon thing to say that TLOU2 isn't the best system in a TPS. I rank MGSV higher than TLOU2.
I saw, really looking forward to messing with it when I do my NG+ easy action focused playthrough.
That's fair, though I'd cut it some slack as it's a last gen game vs probably like top 5 best sounding games ever. RDR2 I thought really nailed the sound and also had really good impact, but just controlled way worse than either. Got me so exited at first as I thought they'd finally nail MP3's gunplay in their open world games.
TLOU2 feels great when I'm just running around, jumping over and on things. And then the combat starts.
There might be a few cool things you can do but overwhelmingly that isn't what you will be doing. By comparison, Destiny always feels great. So does MP3 and MGSV and Titanfall 2. The new Doom games as well.
There might be a few cool things you can do but overwhelmingly that isn't what you will be doing. By comparison, Destiny always feels great. So does MP3 and MGSV and Titanfall 2. The new Doom games as well.
Someone should hold Rockstar/TakeTwo criminally accountable for not remastering Max Payne 3 and instead giving us an LA Noire rerelease.
It's mostly functional with some good sound design, and that's about the most interesting thing worth saying about it.
No, it's not the best. Not even close.
No, it's not the best. Not even close.
This. The game is a joy to play and the gameplay loop of loot gorgeously modeled area, fight dudes/infected, repeat is endlessly playable. I wish ND had multiple studios where the other could just lift the gameplay and drop it into something a little more replayable.
I don't really think about controls in terms GOATs or whatever, but I will say I played thirty hours of it and I always felt like the characters were doing what I wanted them to and the controls never got in the way. All the running, crouching, going prone, leaping, going into cover, changing weapons, etc.. felt really reliable and responsive, not to mention visceral. Except maybe for a couple times where I felt like I made a jump and it didn't give it to me or sent me slightly in a direction I didn't feel like I was pushing, but that was pretty minor and rare.
Yeah, the controls and gunplay are fantastic, controls as well as MGSV with gunplay more satisfying than Max Payne 3. If it's 60fps on PS5, it'll be right up there at the top with Vanquish.
The encounter design is top tier stuff as well.
The encounter design is top tier stuff as well.
InFamous did everything Control did(in terms of gameplay) better a decade ago. Also, pretty much every game ever made has different actions mapped to different buttons on the controller, giving each a distinct input......what
Up there with MGSV. The tension it creates puts it at a higher level in terms of the whole package but if we're just talking controls MGSV still edges it out because of the 60fps.
Incredible encounter design as well. Almost all major encounters feel like small multi-player maps.
beats me tbh i'll load up ign dot com so they can tell me how to feel
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Always hear such radically different opinions about ND games and spoken so objectively. I've always felt nuts thinking Last of Us is a satisfying fun game to play and Part 2 takes it up a notch and is much more fluid and enjoyable.
And whats with the opinions of "it plays like garbage" never have examples of compared to what? There are these magical hidden illusive games out there that control flawlessly and look incredible during it.
And whats with the opinions of "it plays like garbage" never have examples of compared to what? There are these magical hidden illusive games out there that control flawlessly and look incredible during it.
Well it's good they said: "One of the best" and not simply: "the best"
Yep, it's one of the best controlling third-person games. I wish Naughty Dog add some challenge mode (like Mercenaries or Instant action from F.E.A.R.), with modified maps from main game and changed enemy placements. Combat is best aspect of Part II.
My only complaint is the aim assist feels weird, I turned it all the way off and it felt better. The gameplay is incredible. I'm a broken record but I can't wait for the multiplayer.
That's fine.. but outside of MGS V I can't thing of another game so ambitious and well executed as a TPS/Stealth game.
Is just on another level for me.. anyways I'm a little intrigued about your personal list.. I can't even think of 2 possible games with better mechanics and animations than TLOU 2 but it would be fun to know your choices.
I see some people push the idea that it was universally agreed the original game was just mediocre to play with a good story. I really don't think that's the case. Loads of people liked the game for how it played, a lot of them so much so that they stuck around for its multiplayer. Others don't feel that way and that's fine, but it's not some universal truth. I know I wouldn't love the original game as much as I do if I felt it was just mediocre to play, one of the things I liked about it (and still like today) is how it plays and Part II expands and refines it brilliantly.
It feels really fucking good. The character you control feels weighty without being a drag like Arthur. Also everything sounds so good, the feedback is amazing, the AI is a big improvement, the combat music is intense as fuck. All that make it an amazing experience.
And holy shit melee in this game! I'd say overall I like MGSV gameplay more but MGSV has shit on that melee combat.
And holy shit melee in this game! I'd say overall I like MGSV gameplay more but MGSV has shit on that melee combat.
Exactly.. I'm still waiting for a list of this hidden gems I never played.
The graphics + animation work + responsive controls +sound quality + real tension on TLOU 2 in my opinion are the best I've experienced on any TPS.
MGSV is a fantastic mechanical TPS but the animations and sound desing are on a lower level compared to TLOU 2. Also the AI is next level on TLOU 2.. nothing else can't come even close to what they achieved and that's why every encounter is a thrill to play on high difficulties.
This is such an embarassing post as the OP does not exclude those games at all.
On lower difficulties it seems kinda redundant, but I had fun on hardest with the systems it provided. Some clutch scenarios thanks to both the dodge mechanic and quick headshots right before dying. The contextual animations are easily the most impressive ive seen in a videogame without taking control away from you for more than half a second.
You realize OP said "one of", not "the only"...
Single word responses on this board are always so fucking lazy
You realize OP said "one of", not "the only"...
Single word responses on this board are always so fucking lazy
The ultimate test for shooters is how it performs in multiplayer, PvP.
Lots of shooters feel good in campaigns but don't it against human players, Max Payne 3 was like this.
This is where Gears always rules and is not bettered.
Lots of shooters feel good in campaigns but don't it against human players, Max Payne 3 was like this.
This is where Gears always rules and is not bettered.