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ArchedThunder

Uncle Beerus
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Oct 25, 2017
18,994
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Ones with only one Pokemon on the cover are too easy, not as funny.
 

Nothing Loud

Literally Cinderella
Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,968
I would tolerate 20 new Pokémon total if it meant a game with rich features and post-game and all current Pokémon available by catching or trading. Like Smash Ultimate, creating a "complete" game is more important and interesting to me than focusing on unproven features like Gigantamaxing when Sun and Moon already changed the formula to be more interesting to begin with
 

Fj0823

Legendary Duelist
Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,639
Costa Rica
It was a very difficult decision. It's just one of those things you have to think about when making a game.

I don't think the outrage would be half as bad if they had just said

"This game proved to be a challenge, so for that reason we had to make the hard decision to leave some pokemon behind, however, we are committed to bring all your favorites to the HD generation of Pokémon in future entries"

EDIT: Sorry, DP
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,631
I don't think the outrage would be half as bad if they had just said

"This game proved to be a challenge, so for that reason we had to make the hard decision to leave some pokemon behind, however, we are committed to bring all your favorites to the HD generation of Pokémon in future entries"

EDIT: Sorry, DP
thats the thing though, they already HAVE HD models.
 

greenwell

Member
Jan 12, 2018
461
Game Freak should be happy this game leaked because the fantastic new pokemon are the only reasons I'm still getting this game.

I would tolerate 20 new Pokémon total if it meant a game with rich features and post-game and all current Pokémon available by catching or trading. Like Smash Ultimate, creating a "complete" game is more important and interesting to me than focusing on unproven features like Gigantamaxing when Sun and Moon already changed the formula to be more interesting to begin with
There's no reason we can't get 50+ new mons AND a complete game. They did it with BW/2.
 

Palidoozy

Concept Artist at Maxis Texas/EA
Verified
Sep 17, 2019
35
Austin, Texas
Have EA or Activision/Blizzard ever remade a game with fewer features than the original? I'm trying to think but can't come up with one.

While it's debatable whether it had fewer features than "the original" (especially since expansion packs were always a thing), Sims 4 got railed over feeling like a significant step down from the Sims 3. This has actually been a pretty important data point and has been something deeply discussed.

Regardless of whether or not it's justified -- people are going to dislike feeling like they're losing stuff. I'm not a fan of zubat -- but not having it there to constantly harangue me in caves makes me kind of like ":( aw man." The way you combat this is by introducing enough new features and content that people can forget about the cut stuff and feel justified moving on. For some folks, the state of SwSh is exactly that. For others, the new stuff isn't enough to offset the loss.
 

ArchedThunder

Uncle Beerus
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Oct 25, 2017
18,994
I thought he said that they had "No Regrets" despite the criticism?
He used criticism of Let's Go as an example of how they listen to feedback when asked about the backlash. After he said They made the choice they felt was right for SwSh, but that's a lot less definitive than the "All games will be like this now." That they had been saying previously.
 

PancakeFlip

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Oct 26, 2017
7,914
Looks like for Pokemon in this game that need Smeargle for egg moves you will need to send over a selection of that Pokemon's babies from an old game that has all of the egg moves you want. This has really messed up breeding.
 

Fulminator

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,199
Looks like for Pokemon in this game that need Smeargle for egg moves you will need to send over a selection of that Pokemon's babies from an old game that has all of the egg moves you want. This has really messed up breeding.
egg moves change every gen though don't they

i imagine we will have different egg moves
 

Nothing Loud

Literally Cinderella
Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,968
Game Freak should be happy this game leaked because the fantastic new pokemon are the only reasons I'm still getting this game.


There's no reason we can't get 50+ new mons AND a complete game. They did it with BW/2.

I know but that appears to not be possible anymore for whatever BS reason ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I actually ordered Black 2 last night after getting annoyed with all the cut Pokemon confirmations
 

Sterok

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,083
Because this is Gamefreak, I'm still not completely discarding the possibility that all Pokemon are coded in (to help with communicating with future games), but we just arbitrarily can't bring the snapped mons in from Home. Unlikely, but this is the same developer that created walking animations for every Pokemon in Sun/Moon and proceeded to do nothing with it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Because this is Gamefreak, I'm still not completely discarding the possibility that all Pokemon are coded in (to help with communicating with future games), but we just arbitrarily can't bring the snapped mons in from Home. Unlikely, but this is the same developer that created walking animations for every Pokemon in Sun/Moon and proceeded to do nothing with it.
they arent gonna be in the code for the game...
 

Fj0823

Legendary Duelist
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Oct 25, 2017
26,639
Costa Rica
Because this is Gamefreak, I'm still not completely discarding the possibility that all Pokemon are coded in (to help with communicating with future games), but we just arbitrarily can't bring the snapped mons in from Home. Unlikely, but this is the same developer that created walking animations for every Pokemon in Sun/Moon and proceeded to do nothing with it.

Thay already said they are not in the code for this game
 

Odeko

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Mar 22, 2018
15,180
West Blue
Because this is Gamefreak, I'm still not completely discarding the possibility that all Pokemon are coded in (to help with communicating with future games), but we just arbitrarily can't bring the snapped mons in from Home. Unlikely, but this is the same developer that created walking animations for every Pokemon in Sun/Moon and proceeded to do nothing with it.
Funnily enough they actually eventually did do something with those animations.

They're used for the camp in Sword and Shield.

(So check "they wouldn't work with the camp" off the list of reasons why the Sun/Moon models wouldn't work for the old Pokemon in Sword and Shield)
 

The Adder

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Oct 25, 2017
18,086
I don't think the outrage would be half as bad if they had just said

"This game proved to be a challenge, so for that reason we had to make the hard decision to leave some pokemon behind, however, we are committed to bring all your favorites to the HD generation of Pokémon in future entries"

EDIT: Sorry, DP
Because they have no intention of bringing all your favorites to the HD generation of Pokémon in future entries.
 

ArchedThunder

Uncle Beerus
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Oct 25, 2017
18,994
Funnily enough they actually eventually did do something with those animations.

They're used for the camp in Sword and Shield.

(So check "they wouldn't work with the camp" off the list of reasons why the Sun/Moon models wouldn't work for the old Pokemon in Sword and Shield)
Overworld for Let's Go and SwSh as well.
 

Zan

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
9,418
Is there any reason to not believe we'll get the cut Pokemon in TimelessDiamond/PerfectPearl/Pokemon Lance/Giga Sword/Shield? Just wondering.
 

Pancracio17

▲ Legend ▲
Avenger
Oct 29, 2017
18,690
Is there any reason to not believe we'll get the cut Pokemon in TimelessDiamond/PerfectPearl/Pokemon Lance/Giga Sword/Shield? Just wondering.
Well get some of them, but Gamefreak literally said that they wont have all Pokemon in one game ever again. Id bet my left nut they will cut some SwSh mons for the gen 4 remakes.
 

Odeko

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Mar 22, 2018
15,180
West Blue
Is there any reason to not believe we'll get the cut Pokemon in TimelessDiamond/PerfectPearl/Pokemon Lance/Giga Sword/Shield? Just wondering.
We'll get some of them back, but then some of the Sword and Shield dex will be gone. We're never gonna get a game with the full roster again.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,609
North Carolina
I really hope Showdown doesn't just toss everything that didn't get in into Anything Goes. That would probably require them to not let those pokemon access any new moves even if there's stuff they could reasonably be able to learn though
 

JC317

Member
May 29, 2018
137
Oh man, some of these memes are just brilliant.

Someone should compile them and make a thread titled "Dexit has developed quite the fan art following already..."
 

Mudo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,114
Tennessee
If they aren't in the dex, they aren't being added. Gamefreak have been extremely clear about that.

oh I didn't know that.
Well...bummer
But it still looks like a really fun game. I'm lucky I haven't played the series enough to be really attached to anything
If I had played this my whole life religiously this would be super sad news
 

Horohorohoro

Member
Jan 28, 2019
6,723
Remember when this was first announced and people said "good! Trim the fat and get rid of the filler ones!" Turns out the filler ones were every starter, over 50% of the Pokemon in Smash, and tons of fan favorites, while the ones deemed lucky enough to make it into Sword and Shield turned out to be things like Basculin, Maractus, Shuckle, and Ferrothorn.
 

dunkzilla

alt account
Banned
Dec 13, 2018
4,762
Remember when this was first announced and people said "good! Trim the fat and get rid of the filler ones!" Turns out the filler ones were every starter, over 50% of the Pokemon in Smash, and tons of fan favorites, while the ones deemed lucky enough to make it into Sword and Shield turned out to be things like Basculin, Maractus, Shuckle, and Ferrothorn.
Ferrothorn is fantastic though.
 

Fnnrqwin

Member
Sep 19, 2019
2,297
RIP my shiny perfect Gogoat. Maybe one day.

Only one of my top 5 lines (the Togepi line) made it in.
 

Mekanos

▲ Legend ▲
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Oct 17, 2018
44,109
Remember when this was first announced and people said "good! Trim the fat and get rid of the filler ones!" Turns out the filler ones were every starter, over 50% of the Pokemon in Smash, and tons of fan favorites, while the ones deemed lucky enough to make it into Sword and Shield turned out to be things like Basculin, Maractus, Shuckle, and Ferrothorn.

GEN 5 STAYS WINNING

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