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Like, did they come into the deal with a chip on their shoulders against potential buyers?
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Ooblets will be exclusive to Epic Games Store on PC
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Like, did they come into the deal with a chip on their shoulders against potential buyers?
I honestly have nothing against games that sign with Epic. I completely understand why they would, and to be honest I don't mind using the Epic Game Store. That said, man the PR for this particular decision wasn't the best huh.
The devs seem to really like their fans:
If someone cant see the image. Someone asks that they cant buy the game through EGS, since his country isnt supported yet and would have to pay USD.
Answer:
"No one owes you the game. Just wait."
Maybe someone should go ahead and tell this team to just go offline for a while.There is even more:
Maybe put the shovels down while they're at it. Because this isn't going to be something they can just go "we're just joking" or "we didn't mean to be disingenuous" their way out of like they were attempting to do with the blog post.
And that message is that we don't want companies funding interesting video games.
The devs seem to really like their fans:
lmao, this is the guy half of y'all are going to bat for.There is even more:
I guess that's too bad. Don't make software you can't sell.
Okay, look, I can respect the hustle. If you're an indie dev looking to fund development, I can understand taking the Epic Games check. Even though the EGS is a goddamn shitshow, I'm not gonna rag on you for taking free money.
But you really, really shouldn't act like a condescending asshole about it and then attempt to deflect anger through whataboutism. Especially to people who want to buy your game, but now can't because of actual legitimate restrictions on the store. You're right climate change is an issue, so how about you donate the EGS check you just got to charity? Be the hero you want others to be.
But you really, really shouldn't act like a condescending asshole about it and then attempt to deflect anger through whataboutism. Especially to people who want to buy your game, but now can't because of actual legitimate restrictions on the store. You're right climate change is an issue, so how about you donate the EGS check you just got to charity? Be the hero you want others to be.
I was excited for this game and didn't mind buying it on the EGS but these guys are making it really easy to just skip it now.There is even more:
Wattam is 100% going exclusive since it's published by Annapurna and Annapurna's all in on the EGS.
Epic represents the entire planet now! Truly they've grown to epic proportions
Bullshit.
Epic is not doing that. They are buying exclusivity to games that are already near completion and already have a large degree of interest. Epic is taking very little risk with these deals.
You don't see many people railing against Sony and Microsoft for funding platform exclusives for a good reason.
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At first I was giving them the benefit of the doubt, as some of what they're saying is absolutely true and needs to be said. But some of these subsequent messages to fans are just wow. If anyone where I work were to talk to fans like that they'd be fired, or at the very least disciplined swiftly.
Me: Hey can I buy this thing?The devs seem to really like their fans:
If someone cant see the image. Someone asks that they cant buy the game through EGS, since his country isnt supported yet and would have to pay USD.
Answer:
"No one owes you the game. Just wait."
Them: No sorry it is only available in this store and if you complain your a shit person
Me: Oh but I can't actually get to that store, does that make me a shit person because I can't even choose to do so?
Them: Yes
What the fuck is wrong with these developers? I mean sell your game on EGS, that's fine, why the need to launch a preemptive nuclear strike against all "gamers"?
Do they think everyone who doesn't buy from EGS is a gamergater? Such a weird thing to do.
Do they think everyone who doesn't buy from EGS is a gamergater? Such a weird thing to do.
damn, I had no idea Epic funded every game ever made!
You have to at least buy the game on Steam once it debuts there, or you're going too far. Try and be more proportionate, you know?
Epic cant even fund their own damn store to get a damn shopping cart functional. What makes you think they're funding multiple games that they have no ownership over?
Honestly, gamers are trash for not supporting devs for taking the guaranteed route for their game to break even/be profitable. For as much as gamers decry the instablity and layoffs in the industry, they get really pissed about having to install a free client.
I think a better complaint would be that Epic can't even fund Unreal Tournament.
This game was going to make back its money through whatever store they sold on, EGS wasn't a factor in them suddenly being profitable. All that this has done is allowed the devs security in a cheque for initial sales with no promise on future sales or long-term profits. Also I love your quick edit to add even further pointless whataboutism's to the discussion, especially because it never has been about it being a "launcher" but what that launcher is trying to achieve in the PC gaming market.
It's wild there would be that much emotional tension behind a game so cute and friendly looking
Maybe it's a creative outlet?
Maybe it's a creative outlet?
This one Reddit post claiming loony conspiracies is our 100% truthful facts that EGS haters be racist!
As someone who has no horse in this race, I think they should have avoided that snarky blog post. All they had to say was epic is paying us to bring the game to their store exclusively and we took it to keep the lights on/job security/feed the children etc... then again maybe this was a way to drum up publicity for the game.
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I knew this would be coming. Why, you say? All the main reasons for the anti-EGS rage are just consumer-biased, never thinking about development issues. Unreal Engine license, plus extra funds and the added discoverability (just a few games at EGS vs the tens of thousands in other stores) is something which can hardly be rejected.
Also, he's obviously right. I've been reading a bunch of users in this forum sarcastically saying "but it's just another launcher". Not only is another launcher, but it is also a free one.
I am a person who doesn't put consumer rights above worker rights. Assuming that EGS is "hurting" my "rights" as a consumer, that is (they probably gave more than 200$ in games for free, but whatever).
Also, he's obviously right. I've been reading a bunch of users in this forum sarcastically saying "but it's just another launcher". Not only is another launcher, but it is also a free one.
I am a person who doesn't put consumer rights above worker rights. Assuming that EGS is "hurting" my "rights" as a consumer, that is (they probably gave more than 200$ in games for free, but whatever).
Nah, there are more important things to worry about than some arrogant game developers who think the world owes them money. Maybe when they close the doors to their business, they can come fight climate change with me.
You have a seriously strange conception of what both consumer rights and worker rights mean if you think they are any part of this discussion...
The devs seem to really like their fans:
If someone cant see the image. Someone asks that they cant buy the game through EGS, since his country isnt supported yet and would have to pay USD.
Answer:
"No one owes you the game. Just wait."
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Wow, this is even worse than the blog post itself.
I bet the guy imagines himself as the romantic hero in this story.There is even more:
Yikes...just yikes.The devs seem to really like their fans:
If someone cant see the image. Someone asks that they cant buy the game through EGS, since his country isnt supported yet and would have to pay USD.
Answer:
"No one owes you the game. Just wait."
I imagine him as the doppelganger for the dude from YIIK.
Never said that.
Or that.
The games are near completion, so there is still development left to do. The last 10 or so percent of of a game's development is where the rubber hit's the road in my experience. There is a huge difference in outcomes depending on the resources available.Most games are kinda hot trash till the very end and the more resources that can be spent putting things right, the better. Epic stepping in and forking out cash to help these games hit the finish line is a good thing for the overall quality of these games.
This certainly isn't true in the case of every Epic exclusive, but it seems to very much be the case in the instance of Ooblets.
Other than the part where they are giving developers money to make video games. Yes, this comes in the form of guaranteed sales targets, but that is exactly the sort of deal that indie devs want because it gives us one of the things we value most, predictability.
Other than the part where they are giving developers money to make video games.
The things that makes me think this are the public statements of multiple developers and my own conversations with friends.
You know what, you're right. God you're so intellectual. Like. You have a multi-dimensional brain or something. I can't believe I thought I should have rights and protections as a consumer. For now on I'll just listen to what the super smart business people tell me. Clearly they're smarter than I, since they have more money and more bigger brains.
yeah at this point it is getting a tad bit difficult to spot sarcasm from actual beliefs. I mean my sarcasm detector is just displaying "fuck this for a game of soldiers I give up". If you really believe this then you really are not a very "clued" up person.
As for this Ooblets shit to be honest I am glad this has happened I am glad the developers have been shown to be pretty nasty and toxic and will happily not support them even when they drag their sorry arse over to steam.
Nah, I mean, Epic would not be giving anyone money if there was any risk of the game not coming together. It's disingenuous to call that "funding interesting games" or however you phrased it. They're guaranteeing a certain level of revenue to developers of interesting games, but not funding interesting games. You could interpret that as funding that studios future games, but not the ones that get moneyhatted.
I'm not even necessarily agreeing with the person you're responding to, but where in the world did he or she imply that artists shouldn't be paid?