I won't lie, I had no interest in this game whatsoever and only learned about its existence right now, so I can't really boycott it :) But those comments will make sure I steer well clear of anything they do in the future.
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Ooblets will be exclusive to Epic Games Store on PC
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Well I don't know what it means to be Reddit and apparently I too am a "Gamer" for caring about my consumer choice.
I was not telling the Dev what is best for them I in fact said they can do what they want.
I was trying to engage with you.
Come on dude your a mod. You know this is about more than the game itself at this point... They basically kicked a beehive on purpose. I don't see why that's the way to engage the public discourse.
I personally don't believe in labels but what are you if not a gaming customer yourself?
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Man, I'm not putting my head ahead of others, I'm only saying that EGS is setting a good precedent. Lots of devs might not get directly benefited from it, but this is a new standard on how storefronts should treat creators and it's opposing and establishment that didn't bother in making things easy for us. In the long run this is the best for the industry as much as it pains you. I'm just tired my words getting twisted by a mob in an internet forum.
Really makes you think huh. Guess all the fans the game had lining up to buy it on Steam just weren't interested in talking about it before now.
Good for them, Get that Fortnite money, devs. Shows Epic have faith that they're making a good game too.
Feel good story, glad they don't have to stress too much about failing. Takes a lot of pressure off.
Next Epic should start giving out free game themed skins for Fortnite. Make it a platinum level trophy thing if they ever add them (not a fan of trophies with no reward). Imagine the sales of random games just for skins in Fortnite. $$$$$$$$$$$$
Next Epic should start giving out free game themed skins for Fortnite. Make it a platinum level trophy thing if they ever add them (not a fan of trophies with no reward). Imagine the sales of random games just for skins in Fortnite. $$$$$$$$$$$$
Maybe in your group of friends, but I know tons of people who have given up other careers that would have paid more to get into game development. It paid off in spades for some and not so much for others, but they all do it because they want to make games.
The controversy around EGS and how developers justify exclusivity deals is more interesting and discussion-worthy than Ooblets the game.
I'm all fine for people taking easy money, but be straight about it. Curation is good for those who directly benefit from it, but the number of developers that applies to will always be an incredibly small percentage in the scheme of things. If every storefront was curated like some of you guys seem to long for we'd just have hundreds of great games that wouldn't only not be successful, they wouldn't even have the opportunity to be successful.
It's almost as if the content of the thread matters more than just the name of a game when it comes to generating discussion... Seriously?
Clearly they should have known to be confrontational assholes in the trailer to get people talking about it. No bad publicity and all.
Let's be honest, no one would have been talking about them if they hadn't rehashed all the Era Epic defender's talking points in a condescending tone and just stuck to the "We're a small studio and the money's a big help". See https://www.resetera.com/threads/untitled-goose-game-announced-as-epic-store-timed-exclusive.122240/
All these entitled gamers deciding when and where to spend their money depending on if they feel it is a good value proposition. BLECH!
If they want our money, they need to sell it well. "I'm putting my game on a shit store and you're dumb for not buying it there" is not selling it well.
Unless the only money that matters anymore is Epic's money, which seems to be the case.
The EGS situation affects PC gaming as a whole and discussion about it pulls in posters who believe they have found a vector to troll PC gamers free of consequences.
The prevailing opinion on this opinion regarding devs taking the deal has always been that so long as they are upfront as to why people dont have an issue with it, infact people would still hate egs but respect the dev.
But these entitled geniuses decided to antagonise customers and belittle they're issues with the launcher, effectively stanning for EGS when they didnt even have to. Thats a dumbass decision on their part and whatever happens its now on their heads.
And while were I like games doesnt mean Im gonna support every decision publishers make cause it puts money in devs pockets. Especially if I as a consumer dont see an overall advantage.
Under 800 posts and the only PC related threads you take part in are to stan for Epic.
Shocker!
You're completely missing the point here.
Game developers are in game development because they want to make games.
They also want to make money in a field that doesn't traditionally pay proportionally to the skills and talent required to make games.
More money is always going to be the objective because more money allows them to make games.
This is ESPECIALLY true for a lot of indies who aren't dreaming of selling millions but are in it for the artistry and promise of building their dream game. Whether or not it reaches the absolute biggest audience possible is not their concern. If it were, their games would be free.
And i am an architect for charity and i don't want money? Imagine if i went and made all my project according to my wishes without consulting my customers/investors? And yet i am doing my best to respect my investors and if they want damn toilet seat n the middle of the living room and i can't make them change their mind i don't go and tell them that they are stupid, i do everything i can to make damn toilet seat work in the middle of the living room. If you interact with customers and you sell something to customers you don't go and be rude. Also dealing with customers is always about compromise and maintaining good relationship. Once you lose customer it is damn hard job to bring it back. It is not too much to ask to respect people who are giving you money and if you need to make choices like this just say it don't go and call people who have right to don't like Epic Store as much as you have right to like it Gamers™.
It's almost like they knew exactly what would happen when they made that snarky blog post and lots of people are performing on command.
They either don't understand that their approach to moderation has escalated the toxicity in these EGS topics, or it's intentional.
Considering that they don't even issue warnings to trolls, and instead ban people posting long, well-reasoned posts on the subject, it's difficult to believe that it's incompetence.
There have already been several "just asking questions", "I don't get it, it's just a launcher", "what's the big deal?" etc. trolls in here which have gone unmoderated. And that's far from the worst that gets posted in these threads.
Had it wishlisted on Steam since the page was up. Sorry devs, I get securing the bag but out of sight out of mind now. Will get to it eventually.
Edit: Now that I'm reading this blog post the tone is really offputting and condescending. Not sorry anymore!
Edit: Now that I'm reading this blog post the tone is really offputting and condescending. Not sorry anymore!
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Competition means you're obligated to buy things you don't like. That's economics 101.
PM a mod, don't do it this way. You're only undermining the very difficult job they are trying to do.
"Wow these devs are downplaying and handwaving valid complaints and being super condescending about it. What a bunch of assholes"
"lmao gamerz stop whining its just a free launcher xd"
Ya'll can throw around "Gamers" as an insult all you want but it doesn't make you look any less ignorant.
No, I'm not missing the point at all. I was responding to a very specific post of yours that seemingly implied making as much money as possible is the number one priority.
Of course people are looking to get paid for their work.
It's definitely free advertisement at this point. Without the exclusivity thing, nobody would have ever heard about this game. (and tbh, I still don't know anything about it beyond the name lol)
Oh wow turns out people react more strongly to a lengthy, confrontational blog post mentioning climate change and prison camps in a condescening manner than to a random trailer look at me im a mod
Exactly right, and this site's moderation team seems complicit or willfully ignorant.
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It's fun to dunk on consumers interested in getting a good value as long as you can call them EnTiTLeD GaMeRs
Acting like only people interested in this specific title should be interested in this topic is ridiculous. Awaiting similar comments in sales threads or other industry related threads.
Especially when they are posting on ResetEra, which describes itself as "the internet's premier video gaming forum destination."
I'll never understand this recent trend of certain posters to act like they are outsiders or something and use that position to shit on this community and people who are gaming enthusiasts in general.
You say this as if there isn't a mod in this topic tacitly supporting this.
So you want platform holders to absorb the costs and risks of developers - increasing the risk on themselves to function. This is a good solution for us customers who expect stability from their service? Please explain.
I had my eyes on this game, but now, instead of buying it I will be donating the asking price to a Human Rights organization in my country, and I will urge people to do the same.
The thread for this Smash trailer only got 8 replies.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...te-overview-trailer-feat-the-announcer.82170/
HNNNNNNNG 🤔 🤔 🤔
I'm sure it would be odd to see other Smash threads with more replies.
Now, what if, and this is a crazy hypothesis, what if we posited the idea, that in the long term, maybe, the EGS strategy isn't actually in the best interest of developers. Short term yeah it puts cash in your pocket, but are these devs going to be expecting that paycheck again next time around? Are up and coming devs just waiting and holding out for Epic to swoop in and save them? Creating the expectation of Epic continuing to offer these payouts doesn't seem like the safest bet, and taking a pro-consumer stance in how you offer the game might ultimately be the more prudent course of action.
Some customers (like me) are going out of their way to make that a known sentiment. I'm telling them what's best for me, and implying that ultimately that might be whats best for them.
If it's not then so be it, I just either stop PC gaming, or amuse myself with the 30+ year backlog of games that I can find on the platform. But I might as well make the sentiment known.
Edit: whelp guess I'm not getting an answer. You flew too close to the sun trolling an EGS thread this time.
We're not twisting your words though. We're pointing out to you that your words do not in fact represent a net benefit to the industry.
EGS paying out large sums of cash for exclusives literally only works because the insane income from Fortnite is subsidizing that, on top of how filthy rich Epic is due to Unreal Engine licensing. Lots of devs will never benefit from this. Ever. The ~10000 sales crowd are never going to see the benefits of this, unless Epic opens its storefront to more games/laxes curation, which would go directly against what you think is a benefit in the first place.
This isn't a sustainable practice for the marketplace to engage in.
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For reals! I can't believe a mod is posting shit like this, implying that no one cared about this game until it went EGS exclusive with what has to be one of the most inflammatory blog posts I've ever read.
No, there are plenty of mods who don't. I know because I see them comment many times on Epics behavior negatively.
Resetera is Steam now? I know a good portion of pc gamers that stay away from gamingside topics, or the site altogether. This thread is this active because of the terrible blog post.