We need a proper mental health service, and not the "nice men in white jackets" type. People on staff 24/7 who can be dispatched for this.
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Ontario, Canada: Young Black Man Struggling With Schizophrenia Called 9-11 for Help, Cops Showed up Tased Him and Then Shot Him Dead In His Own Home
- Thread starter excelsiorlef
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Yup. Cut funds for police but also don't give them the job of treating mental health and homelessness issues. Need more funding to other departments to handle these problems. You don't need guns to deal with the mentally ill and homeless except for rare cases.
I agree.
But I don't know what the odds of that happening are when psychotherapy isn't covered by OHIP and even good private insurance plans barely cover anything(like $500-$1000/year lol).
People with mental health issues are mostly left to their own devices until they're a problem for the police, who obviously aren't trained for this sort of thing.
I will not defend this as this is tragic and this should never have happened.
But I will say, John Oliver had a great point yesterday. Cops have too many responsibilities. They are not and should not be responsible for dealing with problems such as mental health. They do not have the training required for this. We need to shift the budget away from policing and towards services that support the community and deal with issues like homelessness and mental health. When you're dealing with someone with a mental health issue, the person showing up to deal with the situation should not be equipped with a deadly weapon.
Cops absolutely should not be involved. They are not equipped to handle this, and anything that threatens their safety is likely to result in a tragedy. It does not excuse the cops behavior here, but we need a system where they are not involved whatsoever in this situation.
But I will say, John Oliver had a great point yesterday. Cops have too many responsibilities. They are not and should not be responsible for dealing with problems such as mental health. They do not have the training required for this. We need to shift the budget away from policing and towards services that support the community and deal with issues like homelessness and mental health. When you're dealing with someone with a mental health issue, the person showing up to deal with the situation should not be equipped with a deadly weapon.
Cops absolutely should not be involved. They are not equipped to handle this, and anything that threatens their safety is likely to result in a tragedy. It does not excuse the cops behavior here, but we need a system where they are not involved whatsoever in this situation.
This is fucking bullshit.
My mom is schizophrenic and how they dealt with her really solidified how much I dislike the police. Not to mention the hospital. Mental Health help fucking sucks in Ontario.
Fucking worthless, disgusting scum.
My mom is schizophrenic and how they dealt with her really solidified how much I dislike the police. Not to mention the hospital. Mental Health help fucking sucks in Ontario.
Fucking worthless, disgusting scum.
ACCAB
defund the police
lets see if the liberals want to take their gestures of solidarity and do something useful
defund the police
lets see if the liberals want to take their gestures of solidarity and do something useful
Even to qualify for mental health assistance covered by OHIP, you first need a reference from your doctor, and then getting an introductory appointment can take upwards of three months. A lot can degrade in that time period.
Yeah, Canada isn't better than the states, maybe in terms of volume sure, but any amount means we're not doing it right. Ontario defunded mental health, and refused to fund it again, we need to defund the police, both regional and the OPP and put money towards mental health and health in general.
It's Brampton, Ontario, Canada. You wouldn't say Texas, United States.
Aside from South Asia, no one outside of Canada knows what Brampton is. It's standard to omit internationally less relevant municipalities from headlines.
About time! The guy has been completely useless, and was only put there because the union wanted him there.
probably not. this was in brampton (peel region) which has a different police force then toronto.
I have no idea where half of the cities mentioned in the states are other than that they're in a specific state, I assume this goes for the vast majority of people too. If you said "Brampton, Ontario, Canada" I'm sure they'd understand the city of Brampton in Ontario Canada.
NEVER call the police for a mental issue. Call a fire department, call an ambulance, I don't give a fuck if they get pissed when they get there, at least they won't kill you.
Calling the police on a mentally ill person is literally a death sentence 3 out of 4 times.
Calling the police on a mentally ill person is literally a death sentence 3 out of 4 times.
And to think, this whole mess could have been avoided if we just *checks notes* gave the police even more goddamn money
This is absolutely tragic. It's so sad to see how mental health is stigmatised all over the world. But this is a gross overreaction even when keeping that in mind. Killing a man who called you for help...
