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Only a Sith deals in absolutes? ....what?
- Thread starter Uzumaki Goku
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- Sir Alec Guinness on playing Obi-Wan Kenobi
My biggest beef with the Jedi Council was that they were politicians themselves sitting in a hotel conference room
Before the prequels, I thought they were bad ass. But during the prequels, they sounded exactly like my condominium association board
Before the prequels, I thought they were bad ass. But during the prequels, they sounded exactly like my condominium association board
I always imagined them living in seclusion as a secretive special task force, because no one in the OT had ever heard about them or the force.
Boy did they disappoint us
By RotS, I ended up rooting for the Dark Side
I'm also confused at the proliferation of prequel bashing threads in Era as of late. They're 20 year old movies and not the absolute worst movies ever as some Era posters would have you believe. I just find it insufferable how prequel haters will just nitpick mistakes or details they don't like that a lot of other films make as well and use it as absolute proof that these films are a crime against humanity or something.
What's the "Backstroke of the West" version? You can only really appreciate the script once you have read the retranslation from a Chinese bootleg version.
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Whether you hate sand or not, please, for the love of all you hold dear, do not try and woo anyone by saying you love them because they aren't like something you hate.
It's really really really poorly thought out.
It's really really really poorly thought out.
This is good point however, the internet thinks it makes no sense and memes exist to support the claim of it making no sense, so your valid logical point must be wrong.
Obi wan is speaking in terms of a negotiation. I see nothing wrong with the quote.
New Star Wars films are being made, so of course people are going to be talking about the old ones. The key thing here is these 20 year old films don't hold up nearly as well as the 40 year old ones. (In fact, they were mildly to grossly disappointing when they were new.)
even if it changes to extremism instead of absolutes is wrong, the jedis and the rebels are considered extremists by the status quo that is the empire are they sith? it doesnt make sense eitherway.
Ani got Natalie Portman with that line, it's a proven panty dropper and I won't hear any arguments otherwise.
I'm still so confused as to how Lucas got married and had a daughter when judging from his dialogue he never seems to have talked to a woman at any point in his life.
Disagree. It's only marginally less bad than AoTC for me and it's significantly worse than Phantom Menace. Although none of them are good.
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you ever hear the story of him with his first wife? She was the emotional heart to Star Wars.
Yup. During the Iraq War, the patriotism of those who opposed the war was questioned by Republicans who were pushing an "either you're with us or against us" attitude. They claimed the left's criticism of the war was criticism of the military. The left argued that you could be opposed to the war, but still support the military, and that it was actually unpatriotic to sacrifice soldiers to a needless and unjust war. The right had no tolerance for any such nuance. They continued to push the narrative that if you hated the war, you hated the military, and most Americans ate it up with a spoon. It was a major social/political talking point. At the time the film came out, that line felt like a very direct rebuke of that right-wing absolutist attitude.
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Blame D+ for all the prequel threads.
And then Rogue One has the "good guys" as terrorists on a planet that sure looks like the Middle East and is having its natural resources drained by an Empire.
It only makes sense with the additional context of TCW where it's shown that the Separatists do have a point.
And then Rogue One has the "good guys" as terrorists on a planet that sure looks like the Middle East and is having its natural resources drained by an Empire.
It only makes sense with the additional context of TCW where it's shown that the Separatists do have a point.
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My biggest problem with Rogue One is that it's hard to get to care about the characters when you know they have to die in the end.
But that's just me.
Yea, he was basically saying that only a Sith would think in these terms of kill or be killed. There is no room for dialogue or a peaceful end.
Era/Gaf has always been one of the biggest prequel hating places on the internet.
It's not surprising. I myself mostly hate TPM and AOTC, but love ROTS. Go figure.
The jedi being shitty hypocritical and often wrong about how to handle things is kinda point
The sith are you just giving into your desires with out really giving a shit about others
And the jedi are just a bunch of people making arbitrary contradictory rules as to why you shouldn't do that, isolating themselves from understanding in doing so.
The sith are you just giving into your desires with out really giving a shit about others
And the jedi are just a bunch of people making arbitrary contradictory rules as to why you shouldn't do that, isolating themselves from understanding in doing so.
And yet he is called "the negotiator." Once. By Grievous. For no reason we can determine. Because the entire war, the centerpiece of the events of the prequels, takes place between movies. So if he does indeed have a reputation as a negotiator, we never see it. Much like Anakin being a good friend to him.
There are people who try to say the prequel trilogy is good. Those people crack me up.
I'm watching The Clone Wars now and this is demonstrated really well in that series.
I'm aware, but nobody should have to watch a 6 season TV series made years later to make basic dialogue and character behavior in the movies make sense. It's nice that Clone Wars was made to fill in the gaps but it doesn't change the fact that Episode 2 and Episode 3 are terribly written films.
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when people say Clone Wars. We're talking the CGI show, right? Not the Samurai Jack animation style right?
The best of the prequels isn't saying much...
The movie is bad but has a few cool scenes. Most of the dialogue is laughable (only because I am so in love with you), and NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Agreed especially when 95% of audiences are never going to see a kids cartoon in order to better understand the prequels.
OP should check some of the stuff George W Bush said circa 2005.
A lot of the things Lucas tried to do in ROTs make more sense that way.
A lot of the things Lucas tried to do in ROTs make more sense that way.
The Palpatine lines override any of the other shitty dialogue.
Thankfully, the romance between Anakin and Padme is kept to a minimum in ROTS.
Palpatine is single handedly the best thing in the movie. I hate hate hate the yoda fight scenes in both rots and aotc, but palpatine makes this one enjoyable to an extent.