That's nothing compared to the splashback from men who don't raise the seat before pissing all over it though. Public men's rooms that don't have urinals are absolutely disgusting. The toilets just get destroyed.
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One-person washrooms should universally be gender neutral.
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I just use my foot, but I suppose the bathrooms of the future will have rugged (not easily broken by drunk people) seats with an auto lifting mechanism.
I used to work with events and after every single event I ever worked on, the female toilets were by far a lot worse than the gents. A LOT.
But yes. Agreed with OP.
I used to clean the restrooms when I worked at Burger King. Women's were far worse than men's.
That is exactly what I thought at the time. I was working so I had to be polite and did not bring it up. It is the only time I have come across someone with this mindset.
Only a person who has never been in a woman's toilet could write that.
Have you ever seen a women's washroom before. I have two friends who were janitors at a large mall back in the day and they said the women's washrooms were far more disgusting than the men's. In fact I remember the one dude referred to women as animals in regards to their bathroom habits haha.
I've heard stories of women smearing period blood on mirrors and walls. Used tampons on the floor or stuck on the ceiling. Women can be just as disgusting as men.
The women's bathrooms I've been in, have had couches and a waiting area in them.
Those dont exist in any men's bathroom anywhere.
I see it often with small restaurants/fast food places, and Half Price Books.
Apologies for the OT, but...
Ugh, can 2020 be the year we finally stop looking for reasons to engage in devil's advocacy? Pretty please?! I'm so fucking exhausted with it, let the devils speak for their own god-damned selves, there's plenty of them in this world now that they don't need you to do it for them.
Chances she's never been married: 100%
A fair bit of the filthiness in a bathroom from men is piss on the floor and the seat. I'm decidedly pro-urinal in public washroom spaces to alleviate that.
Women treat bathrooms kindly when they're asked to clean them later. In public? It's no holds barred. Men don't seem to make a distinction like that is the primary difference.
I'm surprised that some of you live such sheltered lives that you've never seen the horrors of a public ladies' room. I mean, women are known to GIVE BIRTH in public restrooms. Have none of you ever seen I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant?!
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Yeah just playing Devil's Advocate here, both men and women are nasty especially when #2 or menstruation is involved. But in terms of average #1 usage, men tend to create more collateral damage. We leave urination droplets on the toilet rim and sticky puddles around a 2 foot radius of the toilet just from splash-back. Nevermind the people who actually pee on the rim. It's not really pleasant when women or other men need to squat on the toilet after that.
I think the best setup is when establishments have gender neutral restrooms with both a toilet and a urinal. The urinal reduces the golden showers the toilet has to endure and makes it easier to squat over the toilet without your feet sticking to the ground. The toilet is still going to get nasty from poop and menstruation, but those are lower volume activities. With regular sanitation it's manageable.
I work in an office enviroment(NHS), and we have had quite a few emails sent to the whole building in regards to the womens toilets. Used tampons, turds on the flooor etc.
I once advised one of the cleaners that it isn't their job to deal with animals that behave like that day in, day out. I told her to report it to her manager.
To my knowledge, there has never been a problem with the mens.
I once advised one of the cleaners that it isn't their job to deal with animals that behave like that day in, day out. I told her to report it to her manager.
To my knowledge, there has never been a problem with the mens.
The devil you know...
Also, those lines at the ladies room. I'm fine with keeping them separate.
Also, those lines at the ladies room. I'm fine with keeping them separate.
Urinals use a lot less water than toilets. Also, wait times will go up for men.
As someone who has cleaned restrooms as a job before....
Womens bathrooms are far...FAR dirtier than men's bathrooms. It is not even close.
Most men don't do the "hover", and they dont have periods.
The "hover" is the #1 cause of having to clean literal shit off of a toilet back/seat. Also cant tell you how often I had to clean menstruation blood off of seats.
But as to the OP. I agree, but I go so far as to say bathrooms shouldn't be gender assigned in general.
Shitting, pissing, and washing hands are pretty gender neutral.
Womens bathrooms are far...FAR dirtier than men's bathrooms. It is not even close.
Most men don't do the "hover", and they dont have periods.
The "hover" is the #1 cause of having to clean literal shit off of a toilet back/seat. Also cant tell you how often I had to clean menstruation blood off of seats.
But as to the OP. I agree, but I go so far as to say bathrooms shouldn't be gender assigned in general.
Shitting, pissing, and washing hands are pretty gender neutral.
Generally curious with European style restrooms where the door to the actual toilet completely obscures the user inside. Is it more common nowadays to see gender neutral multiperson restrooms?
+1 for "I had to clean public (well, fast food restaurant) bathrooms in a previous job and the women's ones were often way worse." It's kinda weird the myth that women's toilets are cleaner has existed so long tbh.
That said, I only ever found used needles in the guy's toilets 🤷♀️
That said, I only ever found used needles in the guy's toilets 🤷♀️
No but there's an African guy giving you lollipops and Joop.
"No Splash no Gash."
Toilets also take up a lot more room than urinals. Urinals in a unisex bathroom would make it more efficient for men and women to get in and out. If you eliminated them men would be taking up toilets that women could be using.
They should also have a room that's urinals only so I don't get caught in a line when I gotta pee
Urinals are cheaper to install, use less water, but more importantly businesses can fit more urinals than toilets in the same space. Which is great for large events (sports, music, etc.) with lots of people in the same area, since it reduces wait times.
As some one who had to clean the washrooms of one of the busiest Tim Hortons in Ontario I can say that men are way worse. Shit in the urinals, shit on the mirrors, shit on the counter, a sea of diarrhea and vomit encompassing half the bathroom, shit wrapped in a paper bag and tucked under the counter behind the garbage can. Broken mirrors, broken pipes spraying everywhere, bloody bandages strewn all over the counter, used condoms on the floor or draped on the edge of the piss overflowing urinal because it's also stuffed with toilet paper, open diapers left in the changing unit, porno mags caked in hamburger grease for some reason (We were attached to a Wendy's). Random drug shit all over, like needles, and hidden in places that would be dangerous if you were paying attention. Many of these once a month, shit in the urinals and diapers were weekly. Tons of fucking mud too, in bizarre places like all up the walls to the ceiling or some shit so you'd need a ladder to clean it. like some one just started whipping their boots around. Women's bathrooms? Usually a lot of toilet paper on the floor or maybe some tampons or wrappers or soap on the counter. I was so happy when I was asked to clean the women's washroom and someone else had to clean the men's because you never knew what you'd be expected to touch and it would always take 3 times as long.
That said bathrooms should just be one person and gender neutral.
Dude, there was one guy in a stripclub in downtown Baltimore that had the most amazing setup. It had to be over a meter tall and had everything from Reese, airheads, butterscotch krimpets/crumpets, Creed cologne samples, etc. He made my day, even the working girls were like "where did you get all that candy?"
This may explain why I like basement bathrooms so much. I almost prefer to use them exclusively as people prefer not to travel so far to use a bathroom. My mother's house has one, my grandmother's house has one, out of two houses I was looking to buy I was leaning on had one.
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I agree. At that point, it's, well, pointless to gender it.
But at least where I work, it's women's restrooms that are hellzones. Stray toilet paper and pee everywhere, nowhere near the toilet (I DON'T KNOW HOW) on any day that's remotely busy. The men's rooms are sparkling clean 99% of the time, even on busy days. I don't understand how this is when I've been told for years it's the opposite by janitors and such, but, it is what it is.
The things you learn having to clean restrooms...
I will say though, at least, I've never found a BANANA PEEL in the women's room.
See you say this.
But at least where I work, it's women's restrooms that are hellzones. Stray toilet paper and pee everywhere, nowhere near the toilet (I DON'T KNOW HOW) on any day that's remotely busy. The men's rooms are sparkling clean 99% of the time, even on busy days. I don't understand how this is when I've been told for years it's the opposite by janitors and such, but, it is what it is.
The things you learn having to clean restrooms...
I will say though, at least, I've never found a BANANA PEEL in the women's room.
I won't pretend that my gender is a bunch of clean freaks, but I have cleaned both bathrooms at grocery stores before and I promise you there isn't a difference as far as cleanliness goes for men and women.
I'm down for making all restrooms sex/gender neutral.
Also, as someone who cleans the restrooms at work, the men's and women's rooms are equally disgusting, but in slightly different ways. The women's room is more likely to have small amounts of piss (and vary occasionally blood) on the seat, and is more likely to have toilet paper debris on the floor. The men's room might generally look cleaner at a glance, but it's more likely to smell horrendous, and have piss all over the floor.
Also, as someone who cleans the restrooms at work, the men's and women's rooms are equally disgusting, but in slightly different ways. The women's room is more likely to have small amounts of piss (and vary occasionally blood) on the seat, and is more likely to have toilet paper debris on the floor. The men's room might generally look cleaner at a glance, but it's more likely to smell horrendous, and have piss all over the floor.
Based on what my sister has said, shit smeared on the walls. Why? I have no clue.
If it's a single person room with a door that locks, gendering them creates pointless bottlenecks that would only upset fools.
I agree and its funny you post this thread when you did because I was thinking about this for the first time yesterday.
My wife and I were on our way back from our wedding photo shoot and all of us had to pee really bad so we stopped at a Dunkin. Our photographer was also a woman and when we walked in I just thought to myself "Damn they have to figure out who goes first and I just get to go right in, thats stupid". I know them being gender neutral wouldn't have helped in our particular situation, but it had me thinkin.
Edit: The only argument against this I can really be down with is guys suck at using the bathroom. Our men's restroom at working is always trashed, even right after it gets cleaned, super annoying.
My wife and I were on our way back from our wedding photo shoot and all of us had to pee really bad so we stopped at a Dunkin. Our photographer was also a woman and when we walked in I just thought to myself "Damn they have to figure out who goes first and I just get to go right in, thats stupid". I know them being gender neutral wouldn't have helped in our particular situation, but it had me thinkin.
Edit: The only argument against this I can really be down with is guys suck at using the bathroom. Our men's restroom at working is always trashed, even right after it gets cleaned, super annoying.
The problem is that most men are disgusting. Instead of only one bathroom having piss everywhere, itll be two.
