Omni One, a new VR treadmill

wwm0nkey · Oct 9, 2020

Not available to purchase yet but this is the 2nd aimed at consumer VR Treadmill, however this one seem to have more surface area than the Kat Walk Mini and Omni has been in the space for awhile and supplies a lot of VR arcades, so this might be the way to go.

Seems like it will be

$2000 w/headset (Pico Neo 2)
or
$1000 without a headset

Which if you want to use VR to get a good workout, it honestly isn't that bad of a deal at all. I am interested to see where this space goes because it does solve the space issue people might have in VR, but at a cost.

Green · Oct 9, 2020

Wow. If this thing actually works I may actually consider it at that price. I use my Oculus for cardio already and this looks pretty great for that.

wwm0nkey · Oct 9, 2020

Green said:
Wow. If this thing actually works I may actually consider it at that price. I use my Oculus for cardio already and this looks pretty great for that.

Omni has a very good track record so that's why I am excited to see where this goes. If it works I am in for the $1k version ($2k if the headset is good)

Owlet · Oct 9, 2020

Oh wow that's not a bad price.

Would definitely be considering it if I had the space.

Deleted member 6582 · Oct 9, 2020

I remember giving Omni $5 on Kickstarter ages ago just because I liked the idea and wanted to see it go forward. I'm kinda thrilled to see they're still around and making products.

Bob White · Oct 9, 2020

Wont it be like this in real life though?

gogojira · Oct 9, 2020

I'm so ready for hilarious Youtube bloopers of people eating shit using this.

Admiral Woofington · Oct 9, 2020

love it, shame there arent many other wireless VR options at the moment. I don't want an oculus. If Valve releases an Index 2 that has wireless as an option, and throws their weight to have games support this I'm in.

Owlet · Oct 9, 2020

gogojira said:
I'm so ready for hilarious Youtube bloopers of people eating shit using this.

I wonder what the weight limit is

I'm a 6'3 200 pound guy, I bet I'd give it a good run for its money when it comes to stress limits lol

Dreams-Visions · Oct 9, 2020

Not for me.

jimboton · Oct 9, 2020

Love the idea but it seems to me the surface is a bit small.. too easy to take a longer step in the heat of the moment and have a messy accident?

wwm0nkey · Oct 9, 2020

Bob White said:
Wont it be like this in real life though?

Ideally if you are buying a $1000 treadmill you should know to put your wires ABOVE you. That is how their current arcades are set up too.

Mechaplum · Oct 9, 2020

Lobster Roll · Oct 9, 2020

Cool product, but why are they showcasing it with an Xbox 360 Medal of Honor looking game?

Deleted member 16657 · Oct 9, 2020

Man the fact that stuff like this is already viable for enthusiasts makes me really excited. A few years or decades later we're gonna see some amazing stuff

Turnabout Sisters · Oct 9, 2020

The software isn't really there for regular VR yet for me to consider it, let alone whatever tiny selection of games this works for.

gogojira · Oct 9, 2020

Pantsuit_Emporium said:
I wonder what the weight limit is

I'm a 6'3 200 pound guy, I bet I'd give it a good run for its money when it comes to stress limits lol

If you get one, I demand a Twitch live stream of your first hour of play!

wwm0nkey · Oct 9, 2020

Maya Fey said:
The software isn't really there for regular VR yet for me to consider it, let alone whatever tiny selection of games this works for.

Should pretty much work with anything that has analog movement, just like Kat Walk

Admiral Woofington · Oct 9, 2020

Maya Fey said:
The software isn't really there for regular VR yet for me to consider it, let alone whatever tiny selection of games this works for.

this is the biggest issue. Unless games can patch in support.

VirtuaModel · Oct 9, 2020

My only issue with this would not being able to lie down easily. I do that frequently when playing games like Onward.

artsi · Oct 9, 2020

Bob White said:
Wont it be like this in real life though?

Considering Oculus Quest 2 already works very well wirelessly over standard Wifi 6 (or even 5ghz wifi) then I don't suppose wires will be a problem with other headsets either in the near future.

FSP · Oct 9, 2020

Niche sim hardware is pointless.

The golden question is "is this going to be adopted by enough people that developers like VRChat would support it in their VR product?". The answer here is clearly no.

wwm0nkey · Oct 9, 2020

Admiral Woofington said:
this is the biggest issue. Unless games can patch in support.

If it's anything like the kat walk, it'll just emulator analog movement and you just tune it a bit to make sure the speed matches your movement

artsi · Oct 9, 2020

Huw_Dawson said:
Niche sim hardware is pointless.

The golden question is "is this going to be adopted by enough people that developers like VRChat would support it in their VR product?". The answer here is clearly no.

It's just a huge analog stick emulator. No need for additional support I think?
The headset already takes care of up/down movements, and the harness doesn't do anything but keeps you upright.

samred · Oct 9, 2020

there is no caliber of GRIMDARK music or musclebound model that will make Omni's weird rubber-divot treadmill setup not look stupid to walk or run on.

5taquitos · Oct 9, 2020

samred said:
there is no caliber of GRIMDARK music or musclebound model that will make Omni's weird rubber-divot treadmill setup not look stupid to walk or run on.

Who cares how you look when you're living in a virtual world?

Admiral Woofington · Oct 9, 2020

wwm0nkey said:
If it's anything like the kat walk, it'll just emulator analog movement and you just tune it a bit to make sure the speed matches your movement

if that's the case awesome, hopefully it becomes big enough within the VR community. And if it does, the play space needing to be a certain size would go out the window as now you don't need a rectangle of space, you just need this and you're golden

Green · Oct 9, 2020

samred said:
there is no caliber of GRIMDARK music or musclebound model that will make Omni's weird rubber-divot treadmill setup not look stupid to walk or run on.

Everyone already looks stupid if you watch them play VR. Who cares.

5taquitos · Oct 9, 2020

I wonder if being "tethered" to the ground like this would help alleviate some motion sickness.

samred · Oct 9, 2020

Green said:
Everyone already looks stupid if you watch them play VR. Who cares.

Oh, I should clarify: ...that doesn't make them look stupid to USE. I absolutely hate the unrealistic feeling of "walking" over its curved rubber mat. I'd rather use a joystick, and I say this as someone who is particularly motion sensitive in terms of artificial VR motion.

Owlet · Oct 9, 2020

gogojira said:
If you get one, I demand a Twitch live stream of your first hour of play!

Noted! lol

FSP · Oct 9, 2020

artsip said:
It's just a huge analog stick emulator. No need for additional support I think?
The headset already takes care of up/down movements, and the harness doesn't do anything but keeps you upright.

How are you supposed to do roomscale experiences, possibly where you have to look low underneath objects, for example, when you're in a baby harness? How do you make turning comfortable? What about games with full-body tracking? Should you be able to side-strafe? How?

The gold standard is "does this make sense in VRChat" - the devs have been working on desyncing their avatar animations from pre-baked ones in case people start using these treadmills and full-body tracking. In this instance though I'd say no again, because you're strapped in a baby carriage.

Quample · Oct 9, 2020

Could be cool for arcades and super enthusiasts. But is it the solution to VR locomotion? Nah, not even close. Joysticks or something similar will be it for a long time.

wwm0nkey · Oct 9, 2020

Quample said:
Could be cool for arcades and super enthusiasts. But is it the solution to VR locomotion? Nah, not even close. Joysticks or something similar will be it for a long time.

I mean that is who this is aimed at, not the casual market. I would much much rather do this than a normal treadmill for working out though.

shaneo632 · Oct 9, 2020

jimboton said:
Love the idea but it seems to me the surface is a bit small.. too easy to take a longer step in the heat of the moment and have a messy accident?

Yeah I was thinking this. His feet seem waaaaay too close to the edge.

Quample · Oct 9, 2020

wwm0nkey said:
I mean that is who this is aimed at, not the casual market. I would much much rather do this than a normal treadmill for working out though.

True that. There's nothing like a digital carrot (gun) on a stick to keep them legs pumping. Even without locomotion VR is a great calorie burner. I know games like Beat Saber are the likely suspects for VR exercise, but even playing Contractors/Onward require constant ducking; after an hour or two of that I feel like I've done a thousand squats or lunges...because I sort of have.

Green · Oct 9, 2020

samred said:
Oh, I should clarify: ...that doesn't make them look stupid to USE. I absolutely hate the unrealistic feeling of "walking" over its curved rubber mat. I'd rather use a joystick, and I say this as someone who is particularly motion sensitive in terms of artificial VR motion.

Makes sense. I personally wouldn't have an issue with it. I sprint in place for hours at a time playing Ring Fit daily already so this is just a better version of that. Haven't tried one though, so maybe it's just super awkward.

artsi · Oct 9, 2020

Huw_Dawson said:
How are you supposed to do roomscale experiences, possibly where you have to look low underneath objects, for example, when you're in a baby harness? How do you make turning comfortable? What about games with full-body tracking? Should you be able to side-strafe? How?

The gold standard is "does this make sense in VRChat" - the devs have been working on desyncing their avatar animations from pre-baked ones in case people start using these treadmills and full-body tracking. In this instance though I'd say no again, because you're strapped in a baby carriage.

Well you said it, it's not perfect, there will be edge cases that don't work. You can't prone either.
But strafing should work just like walking backwards?

Still it's something you can use with many games that don't require those things.

Lord Fanny · Oct 9, 2020

I'd love this but can't swing that price point. Seems cool though

Deleted member 76797 · Oct 9, 2020

I feel like I saw this on shark tank like 5 years ago

DarthBuzzard · Oct 9, 2020

I'm more optimistic about shoes than treadmills.

However joystick locomotion should end up being applicable to most people once refresh rates climb and anti-motion sickness solutions are built into headsets. There's also the option of walking/jogging in place - I've done it before even without full body tracking and it's not that bad.

Dark Ninja · Oct 9, 2020

All I can think of is how much you will have to replace parts or how much it will stink after a a couple of weeks of use. Luckily it may sit in a closet after that.

Lobster Roll said:
Cool product, but why are they showcasing it with an Xbox 360 Medal of Honor looking game?

Wireless VR is severely underpowered because of having to split the power between running the game and VR at the same time. They all look like phone games or worse.

julkanvi · Oct 9, 2020

Cool product, I also think the walking surface is too small. You can see his feet being half way out on some shots.

wwm0nkey · Oct 9, 2020

DarthBuzzard said:
I'm more optimistic about shoes than treadmills.

However joystick locomotion should end up being applicable to most people once refresh rates climb and anti-motion sickness solutions are built into headsets. There's also the option of walking/jogging in place - I've done it before even without full body tracking and it's not that bad.

These are rad

totowhoa · Oct 9, 2020

wwm0nkey said:
These are rad

Feel like I'd break my neck with those lol.

I actually like that the Omni has the harness suit that spins around the device. That way if you do get physically involved, it's (hopefully) harder to totally wipe out

dsk1210 · Oct 9, 2020

wwm0nkey said:
These are rad

Until the motors keep running and next thing you know, you are sitting on the toilet with the cable wrapped around your neck.

Deimos · Oct 9, 2020

Still not there yet for me, but I'm happy progress is being made.

DarthBuzzard said:
I'm more optimistic about shoes than treadmills.

However joystick locomotion should end up being applicable to most people once refresh rates climb and anti-motion sickness solutions are built into headsets. There's also the option of walking/jogging in place - I've done it before even without full body tracking and it's not that bad.

But interested to see where this goes.

Dolce · Oct 9, 2020

This looks like an accident waiting to happen.

Creation_Scapes · Oct 9, 2020

Ok that looks really cool

Timlot · Oct 9, 2020

How would this work with inside out tracking?

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