OLED TV owners, has burn-in been a problem for you?

MrKlaw · Jan 25, 2020

Robinson said:
I just hate the idea of having to change my usage habits to accomodate a $1000+ TV.

I mean - if you want the best quality that doesn't mean ol be the most robust. You want rugged but LCD

I don't think OLED needs 'babying', but some basic care steps may help extend usable life. That may be a dealbreaker for some but most use cases can be fairly simply accommodated with minor or no adjustments in how you use them

emiliolargo · Jan 25, 2020

I am on my third OLED TV and never had to deal with burn in despite not changing my usage habits.

asdad123 · Jan 25, 2020

I got burn in on my e6 after about 8 months from FFXIV. LG replaced the panel though. I did stop playing that game on this TV after that and haven't had other issues.

When I moved last year, I bought a 82" q90r because I wanted a bigger TV. The c9 at 77" was more expensive and smaller so I went with the q90r. Yes you can tell difference between the Oled and Qled but unless they're next to one another, you won't notice. I'll get another oled eventually when the q90r bites the dust. Hopefully over 5 years from now.

Lynd · Jan 25, 2020

SixelAlexiS said:
So this "Brightness Limiter" and "Screen Dimming" are LG OLED "features" that can't be deactivated at all?
Are those still a thing on C9 and C10?
I would like If someone can expand on this. Thanks!

Eww screen dimming, wouldn't like that at all. I guess with burn in and stuff like that I guess I'll end up with LCD again.
Or wait it out if possible for new tech lol

Dark1x · Jan 25, 2020

I've managed to sidestep pretty much every issue but all displays have their flaws. The problem for me is that LCD is just not good enough to enjoy for any content. I really can't use them outside of work. Just awful displays.

MicroLED is the next big hope.

All flat panels exhibit poor motion resolution, unfortunately. This really needs solving.

It's unfortunate that all displays are deeply flawed.

AnderITA · Jan 25, 2020

Dark1x said:
MicroLED is the next big hope.

and also 1000Hz panel for sure!

Kinggroin · Jan 25, 2020

No, and in fact, now I just go wild with it. Keeping OLED light at 100 for everything including desktop publishing.

Dark1x said:
I've managed to sidestep pretty much every issue but all displays have their flaws. The problem for me is that LCD is just not good enough to enjoy for any content. I really can't use them outside of work. Just awful displays.

MicroLED is the next big hope.

All flat panels exhibit poor motion resolution, unfortunately. This really needs solving.

It's unfortunate that all displays are deeply flawed.

Motion resolution is honestly my biggest gripe. It was the most disappointing thing to come to after having owned a plasma set.

I've since resorted to BFI for non HDR/Dolby Vision content, but damn does the drop in screen brightness hurt.

Dark1x · Jan 25, 2020

Kinggroin said:
No, and in fact, now I just go wild with it. Keeping OLED light at 100 for everything including desktop publishing.

Motion resolution is honestly my biggest gripe. It was the most disappointing thing to come to after having owned a plasma set.

I've since resorted to BFI for non HDR/Dolby Vision content, but damn does the drop in screen brightness hurt.

Yeah and even plasma was a step down from CRT. It's insane that no company has managed to get use back to that point. That such an old technology still has an advantage over every single flat panel is crazy to me.

Kevin360 · Jan 25, 2020

My B6 has massively terrible burn in, letterbox burn in, and the Netflix logo on the bottom right, and other shapes starting to creep onto the screen.

Most of the burn in is completely unnoticeable when watching a letterboxed movie, but everything else is an eye sore. Used to only show on reddish colors, but also starting to creep in on greens and blues.

I babied my TV, always ran the pixie cleaning cycle, and made sure to never let things longer on the screen for very long. Burn in showed up about a year and half in.

Niks · Jan 25, 2020

Sooo, what's the best tv coming this year that doesn't have burn in issues?

qssm · Jan 25, 2020

LG B7. I use it mainly as a third monitor on my PC and have had zero problems with burn-in.

Haven't changed my habits or anything for this TV. I play games and watch movies the same way as I did before OLED.

Deleted member 4869 · Jan 25, 2020

Owner of a B6 for many years now. I use it for gaming, Netflix and YouTube. Zero burn-in.

And no. I don't baby it. I have treated it like my previous LED TVs.

DarkChronic · Jan 25, 2020

B8 owner for about.. a year and a half or so? Maybe a bit longer? Anyway, no issue with burn in at all yet. Haven't changed any habits. I make sure not to leave the TV on if I pause a game to go make dinner or something, but that's a non issue.

I watch hockey 3-6 nights a week depending on the schedule which has the scoreboard in the upper left in harsh colors for ~3 ish hours, and no issues there either.

gabdeg · Jan 25, 2020

Use a B6 since 2017 and have zero burn-in. Actually checked for the first time recently with some test slides. Always used it at full brightness too.

Only thing I do is vary the content (naturally, I just watch a lot of movies and play different games) and turn the TV off when I leave for longer than a couple minutes.

The newer models have much better burn-in mitigation as well.

Kevin360 · Jan 25, 2020

To be clear, I firmly believe my B6 to have been a lemon.

Unfortunately it didn't start showing these signs until after the warranty expired.

PeterVenkman · Jan 25, 2020

Keikaku said:
If something is gonna burn in, it's the red logo on the lower right corner of the screen that's constantly on when browsing titles.

That even happened to someone here.

my B6 has the Netflix logo burnt in. which, as I've said, is insane because of how aggressive LG's screensaver is. It's impossible to keep that logo onscreen unless you're actively browsing. It's a flaw for sure.

TonyMartial11 · Jan 25, 2020

No burn in after a year of moderate to heavy use with youtube, Netflix and ps/xbox.
Though I fully anticipate issues within next 2 to 3 years. Unlike my previous tv that lasted 10 years I dont expect this to get past 5.

Samsung QLEDs I hear are great now. OLED is this gens plasma.

Nostremitus · Jan 25, 2020

Dark1x said:
Yeah and even plasma was a step down from CRT. It's insane that no company has managed to get use back to that point. That such an old technology still has an advantage over every single flat panel is crazy to me.

I honestly don't understand why OLEDs don't fire the pixels in sequence like a CRT. That should alleviate some of the motion problems, right?

Slackerchan · Jan 25, 2020

Sunbro83 said:
You need to stop this habit now. LG recommend against this. The automatic pixel refresher runs every 4 hours when you turn your TV off. That's enough. The only time you should run the manual refresher is if you get a stuck pixel or some really bad IR

I ran a search on my model (oled55e7p) and I couldn't find anything that says that it has an automatic pixel refresher. I double-checked my manual and everything and couldn't find anything to corborate it. Is this a standard feature? If so, when was it implemented?

Kinn · Jan 25, 2020

What about phone screens that are OLED? Anyone noticed any burn in on those?

Corsick · Jan 25, 2020

Kinn said:
What about phone screens that are OLED? Anyone noticed any burn in on those?

I've had an s8+ since launch and have zero burn in. This thread made me realize that I don't even think about it at all, I was actually a little shocked by that. I essentially forgot I was using an oled screen and didn't alter my usage either. It's why I'm still pumped for using a 48cx as a PC monitor this year.

Lexxism · Jan 25, 2020

Yes. I got unlucky this time. This makes me hesitate now on buying an OLED tv.

Minky · Jan 25, 2020

Kinn said:
What about phone screens that are OLED? Anyone noticed any burn in on those?

If AMOLED also counts, yes.
My previous phone was a OnePlus 3, and after about 3 years of solid use, the system tray at the top had burnt in. With that said, the rest of the screen was completely fine, and you could only see the burn-in against pure white backgrounds, which isn't something you see too often.
My current phone's a OnePlus 6T and it's had about a full year of very high daily usage, and similarly the tray is also burnt-in on this one, but it's extremely faint and I'd never be able to see it in any other circumstance, so it's not a huge issue.
I don't know how much the fundamental tech in phone OLEDs varies from that of a TV OLED, but yeah, not really something to worry about.

MazeHaze · Jan 25, 2020

Slackerchan said:
I ran a search on my model (oled55e7p) and I couldn't find anything that says that it has an automatic pixel refresher. I double-checked my manual and everything and couldn't find anything to corborate it. Is this a standard feature? If so, when was it implemented?

It has been a feature since the 6 series I believe. I know my B7 does it.

Branson · Jan 25, 2020

Minky said:
If AMOLED also counts, yes.
My previous phone was a OnePlus 3, and after about 3 years of solid use, the system tray at the top had burnt in. With that said, the rest of the screen was completely fine, and you could only see the burn-in against pure white backgrounds, which isn't something you see too often.
My current phone's a OnePlus 6T and it's had about a full year of very high daily usage, and similarly the tray is also burnt-in on this one, but it's extremely faint and I'd never be able to see it in any other circumstance, so it's not a huge issue.
I don't know how much the fundamental tech in phone OLEDs varies from that of a TV OLED, but yeah, not really something to worry about.

You seem to keep buying things that are prone to burning in haha.

Sanguine · Jan 25, 2020

I've had the C9 for a few months with no issues. My prior tv was a plasma that I've had for 12ish years prior with no issues.

Minky · Jan 26, 2020

Branson said:
You seem to keep buying things that are prone to burning in haha.

Yep lol, it's not been a good run :P There's not much choice when it comes to phones though, I think basically every major phone manufacturer uses OLED these days...

Macheezmo · Jan 26, 2020

Had my C8 for about a year and a half. No burn in, but I just had this suddenly appear on it. The rare time I wish I had purchased the extended warranty.

Kinggroin · Jan 26, 2020

tangeu said:
My PC has been hooked up to my LG E7 for 3 years, no burn in at all. I use it as a daily gaming, netflix, hulu machine. I get occasional IR usually only in the video app menus (amazon carousel is bad for this for some reason) but it always goes away when ever I start a video. I've done a grey gradient video test as recently as this summer. Best TV and Monitor I've ever had.

Yeah same for me. Amazon is the only channel that, without fail, leave image retention on my B8

SixelAlexiS · Jan 26, 2020

Macheezmo said:
Had my C8 for about a year and a half. No burn in, but I just had this suddenly appear on it. The rare time I wish I had purchased the extended warranty.

Don't get what I'm supposed to see, too much reflections.

gozu · Jan 26, 2020

Macheezmo said:
Had my C8 for about a year and a half. No burn in, but I just had this suddenly appear on it. The rare time I wish I had purchased the extended warranty.

Call LG, ask for a free courtesy repair/replacement. 99% chance you get it according to this thread.

Macheezmo · Jan 26, 2020

SixelAlexiS said:
Don't get what I'm supposed to see, too much reflections.

The big bright box on the right is not reflection, it's just how the panel is now. Just a huge bright area on the screen.

gozu said:
Call LG, ask for a free courtesy repair/replacement. 99% chance you get it according to this thread.

I'll have to give this a try

Stitch AU · Jan 26, 2020

Mine has the Fox Sports logo burned into the top right as well as the life metre from Mario odyssey burned into my B6.

Also it seems the panel overheated in the middle recently, yellow in the centre of the screen looks very green, only noticed when watching Simpsons on Disney plus. It's noticeable but not unwatchable.

Scerick · Jan 26, 2020

Mine is 3 years old and has done all of my console gaming. Including over 100 hours of odyssey. No image retention or burn it at all and I don't hide any UI.

Scerick · Jan 26, 2020

Aurongel said:
LG C8 here and I frequently get image retention any time I run the backlight at full brightness (HDR). I'll get retention if it idles at the Apple TV home screen for less than two minutes. It sucks and has really soured me on OLED as a whole.

That's not normal.

ValeYard · Jan 26, 2020

This thread has made clear to me that I'm too neurotic to own an OLED as I often play one game a lot.

It's not you, OLED, it's me.

AnderITA · Jan 28, 2020

Some numbers: In this thread we have 113 oled owners, 32 report burn in

Arkanius · Jan 28, 2020

I have a B7 for gaming, Netflix and normal TV

0 burn in

Paz · Jan 28, 2020

On my E6 I have 3 spots that are easily noticeable from red parts of various HUD/UI elements burning in, luckily they're all at the edges so not really an issue when watching films in wider aspect ratios or gaming where the action is happening close to the center.

Red shit will burn in eventually, the price you pay for the best TV tech you can get really.

DieH@rd · Jan 28, 2020

AnderITA said:
Some numbers: In this thread we have 113 oled owners, 32 report burn in

Welp.
How about stats for only 2019 models?

PyroPaperPlanes · Jan 28, 2020

AnderITA said:
Some numbers: In this thread we have 113 oled owners, 32 report burn in

Add another to that list: The B6 my roommates and I have in Vancouver has massive burn-in within the first year of use. I moved back to Ottawa a couple years ago so I can't take any photos. The screensaver didn't activate for some reason and the bright yellow 5 from 5 Second Films (on YouTube) has permanently burned in. It's most noticable in grey uniform screens, e.g. browsing the Xbox One menus. We should have called LG. :/

AnderITA · Jan 28, 2020

DieH@rd said:
Welp.
How about stats for only 2019 models?

There are few 2019 owners (Lg C9) no one have burn in but Imho I think it's early to say...

SealedSeven · Jan 28, 2020

C8 owner after 1 year. Nothing seen on my screen after good amount of usage a day. Screen Saver comes on after 30 seconds (or whatever lowest time is) which helps a lot too.

AnderITA · Jan 28, 2020

SealedSeven said:
C9 owner after 1 year. Nothing seen on my screen after good amount of usage a day. Screen Saver comes on after 30 seconds (or whatever lowest time is) which helps a lot too.

C9 it has been showed at ces 2019 so, are u sure?

SealedSeven · Jan 28, 2020

AnderITA said:
C9 it has been showed at ces 2019 so, are u sure?

C8* mistyped. Editing

zeitheist · Jan 28, 2020

Dark1x said:
Yeah and even plasma was a step down from CRT. It's insane that no company has managed to get use back to that point. That such an old technology still has an advantage over every single flat panel is crazy to me.

I'm looking forward to 2020 OLED panels with 120 Hz and better BFI. It won't be as good as CRT but at least it's a step in the right direction.
I hope 240 Hz panels with BFI will be a thing in a couple of years.

KrillinLikeAVillan · Jan 30, 2020

AnderITA said:
Some numbers: In this thread we have 113 oled owners, 32 report burn in

Oooof, that's not great, i still can't bring myself to buy an oled, since i use my tv as i use my tv as a pc monitor, i always have awful luck with tech so even i buy a model with no reported burn in i will still get burn in.

Eggiem · Jan 30, 2020

My B7 had this kind of letterbox burn in / image retention after 1500h of use (picture is from AVForums):

Funny because I use it for everything. Guess HDR movies with high peak brightness caused this. Did run the 1h long manual panel refresh and now its gone.

DieH@rd · Jan 30, 2020

Does B9/CX have gigabit ethernet port? One of the biggest drawbacks on my X900E is that I cannot stream 4K content from my PC that goes over 100mbits [fast action scenes can usually go over that, which causes stutter/skips].

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