That really, really isn't what I said in the slightest. And I'm not pushing an agenda; I'm operating purely on my own personal experience with my set, and the sets of people I know and that I have seen in person. It was an honest suggestion and I made it with the intent of being helpful, not just to you but as a suggestion to anyone who owns an OLED who are curious about testing for burn-in.I think talking to someone on an enthusiast forum who says they use an OLED TV as their PC monitor as if they haven't heard of running burn in slides is pretty tone deaf and condescending tbh. "Burn in will almost definitely be present" is some agenda pushing shit on top of that. You basically said that i'm ignorant and almost definitely have burn in.
For real? That's what mine's currently in repairs for! This is the second panel I've had as well, first one got replaced because of a stuck pixel... Insane that LG refused to fix it for you, I read everywhere online beforehand that this issue was something they'd address outside of warranty... Mine's not in warranty anymore, and it got taken away by a local TV repair shop on Monday... Now I'm worried that they'll hit me with a surprise repair bill after the fact :PMy B7 has the %25 precent window error, which is a defect.
LG refused to fucking repair it after stalling me till my warranty expired, claiming I refused to do a pixel refresher (I said it's not going to fix it since it's not an image retention issue)
Fuck LG
For real? That's what mine's currently in repairs for! Insane that LG refused to repair it for you, I read everywhere online beforehand that this issue was fixable outside of warranty... Mine's not in warranty anymore, and it got taken away by a local TV repair shop on Monday... Now I'm hoping they don't hit me with a surprise repair bill after the fact :P
No, not at all.
Just be smart about running the pixel refresher every couple months or when the TV has been used in such a way that it should be run more frequently. I'm as concerned about it as I am about chemtrails.
Yup, this is right.No, don't do this. Never do a manual Pixel Refresher unless you have a visible problem with your panel.
Not only the Pixel Refresher does nothing for burn in (it's for retained image/pixel wearing balance), if greatly abused can shorten the lifespan of your panel. This is detailed in the manual.
What year model?Yep, quite a lot of poor uniformity from I guess using it as a PC monitor for about a year. I figured it'd be safe after anecdotes from others, having my OLED light only on 40, hiding the task bar, and changing the layout colors in a program I use a lot to mid-greys. But nope, it happened. Thankfully it's only noticeable during large bright colors (red, yellow) so, despite how much it ruined my comfort and complicated my setup, I stopped using it as a PC monitor before it got any worse...
Look at this beauty.
I dunno why everybody always thinks theyre the first person to ever read shit on the internet about OLED, and refuse to believe actual users with thousands of hours experience with the tech.
Yeah, this is why I say panel variance is definitely a thing. I don't go out of the way to hide any UI elements beyond auto-hide the task bar, and my experience has been the opposite, 2017 model as well, and I have my OLED light set to 65 on my PC for SDR, and 100 in HDR obviously. I've been expecting the yellow UI elements from Ableton to start showing up burnt in for a while now, but so far so good.Yep, quite a lot of poor uniformity from I guess using it as a PC monitor for about a year. I figured it'd be safe after anecdotes from others, having my OLED light only on 40, hiding the task bar, and changing the layout colors in a program I use a lot to mid-greys. But nope, it happened. Thankfully it's only noticeable during large bright colors (red, yellow) so, despite how much it ruined my comfort and complicated my setup, I stopped using it as a PC monitor before it got any worse...
Fuck them, contacted both LG USA and Europe asking for a written response about the issue so LG Middle East are forced to repair it.
Nothing.
LG were forced to repair them after Rtings found out about it in their burn in testing.
No written statement about it, no blog post, nothing.
And the issue is getting worse everyday Tha tmy friends are noticing it.
So this "Brightness Limiter" and "Screen Dimming" are LG OLED "features" that can't be deactivated at all?I have a B6 and I have multiple elements burnt in to my screen. It's an issue that I've gone into depth in other tv threads, so I'll put my feedback here again:
You are checking some negative boxes there with that long 12 hour gaming sessions talk.Mmm. This thread is definitely scaring me away from LG CX. I use my TV as a computer monitor and play games like FFXIV on it and long gaming sessions like 12 hours aren't impossible for me. I hate burn in and I'm pretty picky about that kinda thing.. not sure what TV I'd jump to after my current TV (Vizio P series 2016).
So this "Brightness Limiter" and "Screen Dimming" are LG OLED "features" that can't be deactivated at all?
Are those still a thing on C9 and C10?
I would like If someone can expand on this. Thanks!
Maybe I'll just upgrade my sound system this year and look at new TVs next year.You are checking some negative boxes there with that long 12 hour gaming sessions talk.
There will be other options available. Logos and huds and just static images in general over hundreds and thousands of hours are the culprit
It's definitely mostly pc elements that burnt for me. All oranges and reds like the google play "play" button. But also the Netflix logo from the built in WebOS app, which is frankly unacceptable. It's their own app.~_~
This is why I fear OLEDs still, since daily desktop use will most likely wreck it fast.
I haven't followed OLED panel productions since the 6 and 7. If I remember correctly, one of them can be minimized or all but removed on later models with the right settings, but the other seems to be here to stay. I find it to be a huge annoyance, but others might not.So this "Brightness Limiter" and "Screen Dimming" are LG OLED "features" that can't be deactivated at all?
Are those still a thing on C9 and C10?
I would like If someone can expand on this. Thanks!
The built in app works with the standby so its not left on a static screen to long. My wife is terrible with not turning off the TV and thankfully it's quick to go into it's screen saver.I want to get an oled, but I'm most afraid of the Netflix continue watching screen. My wife likes to fall asleep with Netflix running.
Every time I want to buy an oled I get scared about investing so much money into something that seems so fragile.
Is that all LG models?The built in app works with the standby so its not left on a static screen to long. My wife is terrible with not turning off the TV and thankfully it's quick to go into it's screen saver.
Yup
I went in knowing burn in will probably happen a few years in so I got a 5 year warranty with it. Best Buy will just swap it out as soon as it has burn in.
I thought companies didn't cover burn inThe built in app works with the standby so its not left on a static screen to long. My wife is terrible with not turning off the TV and thankfully it's quick to go into it's screen saver.
I went in knowing burn in will probably happen a few years in so I got a 5 year warranty with it. Best Buy will just swap it out as soon as it has burn in.
Nope Best Buy GSP covers burn in.
That's absolute garbage on their part. I'd light up their phone lines all day, every day.My B7 has the %25 precent window error, which is a defect.
LG refused to fucking repair it after stalling me till my warranty expired, claiming I refused to do a pixel refresher (I said it's not going to fix it since it's not an image retention issue)
Fuck LG
Had Vizio do something similar to me. Had an M series back in 2012 and it started having a horizontal line on the screen. Because it wasn't vertical they said it could be a bad cable or source.. I told them it was on every source and they kept putting it off until my warranty expired. Most manufacturers hate having to admit fault, it costs them money.My B7 has the %25 precent window error, which is a defect.
LG refused to fucking repair it after stalling me till my warranty expired, claiming I refused to do a pixel refresher (I said it's not going to fix it since it's not an image retention issue)
Fuck LG
Huh, I had no idea.No, don't do this. Never do a manual Pixel Refresher unless you have a visible problem with your panel.
Not only the Pixel Refresher does nothing for burn in (it's for retained image/pixel wearing balance), if greatly abused can shorten the lifespan of your panel. This is detailed in the manual.
You need to stop this habit now. LG recommend against this. The automatic pixel refresher runs every 4 hours when you turn your TV off. That's enough. The only time you should run the manual refresher is if you get a stuck pixel or some really bad IRI have an LG model from 2018 and burn-in hasn't been a problem for me, though I'm always concerned about it. Lots of OLEDs should have some kind of screen refresh feature designed to erase or limit damage and I run that every time I play a game for more than a couple hours. I also tend to turn off static HUDs if they're immobile but not too many console games offer that feature.
If you're particularly concerned, just make sure your brightness settings are turned down a bit, minimize instances of static images being displayed on the TV for more than a few minutes and take advantage of the anti-burn in tools your consoles and TVs have.
I just hate the idea of having to change my usage habits to accomodate a $1000+ TV.
No, don't do this. Never do a manual Pixel Refresher unless you have a visible problem with your panel.
Not only the Pixel Refresher does nothing for burn in (it's for retained image/pixel wearing balance), if greatly abused can shorten the lifespan of your panel. This is detailed in the manual.
I am so confused by this. I researched the topic of the "pixel refresher" when I bought my TV and LG directly says to do it as much as possible. That said, I just googled the topic and many people say it's the worst thing you can do for the health of your TV and you should never elect to do it manually.Yup, this is right.
The TV will also do its own "refresh" cycle (not the same as pixel refresher) after you turn it off it it's been running for more than 4 (iirc) hours too.
ABL can't turn off: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-o...564-lg-oled-auto-brightness-limiting-abl.htmlSo this "Brightness Limiter" and "Screen Dimming" are LG OLED "features" that can't be deactivated at all?
Are those still a thing on C9 and C10?
I would like If someone can expand on this. Thanks!
I advice you to use this kind of content and then if you find something is unapcetable documents it and send to your local support https://youtu.be/dP4vEGREGD4 https://youtu.be/2jHvDUTgzQE https://youtu.be/Vs84_xCJPbcI have a B6 with the vertical bars all across the panel. Shows up most in light blue, like when the scene is mostly blue sky. It's also gotten worse as time goes on.
I think this is more of a panel manufacturing issue than a burn in issue though. Does anyone know if this is still considered a serviceable issue, or am I stuck with it?
how good are they with oled burn in?
This would be the way I get into oled if I did
After watching their video, if I watch most everything with subtitles, should I avoid OLED?Burn-in can still happen but it shouldn't happen after playing a game for 300 hours.
rtings did a burn-in test: https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test
After watching their video, if I watch most everything with subtitles, should I avoid OLED?
If something is gonna burn in, it's the red logo on the lower right corner of the screen that's constantly on when browsing titles.I want to get an oled, but I'm most afraid of the Netflix continue watching screen. My wife likes to fall asleep with Netflix running.