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Oct 25, 2017
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Went early this morning and filled up the tank (it was in the red). Cheapest I've paid for a full tank in Los Angeles for years, even better in that I only drive five blocks max to the grocery store or take out joints maybe two/three times a week.
 

A Grizzly Bear

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
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it will go down more , storage is not unlimited, at some point, oil production has to stop to match demand?
It is stopping. People need to realize the changes to the market are happening fast and shutting all of this down takes time. My company, which is one of the larger mid-tier service companies, has just finished shutting down what we could this week. That means up until last week or the week before we were still extracting oil. That oil still needs to end up somewhere. The lag continues down the supply chain.
 

Shoe

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
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Literally negative value

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suedester

Member
Oct 25, 2017
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Can I buy a load of barrels and then sell them when it invariably goes back up to $50+ a barrel again?
 

captmcblack

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Oct 25, 2017
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And there's no way to directly or indirectly invest in oil or companies that are very dependent on the value of oil, correct?
 

Ziltoidia 9

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,141
Wait it's $4 a barrel?!? So why is that only still 2 gallons at the pump??

If it stays around here I'd guess in about 2-4 weeks it would be below a 1$ a gallon in some places. But I don't know how the price works, I doubt gas stations will go that far down because they have to remain in the green somehow.
 

FTF

Member
Oct 28, 2017
28,398
New York
If it stays around here I'd guess in about 2-4 weeks it would be below a 1$ a gallon in some places. But I don't know how the price works, I doubt gas stations will go that far down because they have to remain in the green somehow.

Yeah it will take a week or two I'm sure at these prices. But why wouldn't they be in the green still if they're able to buy barrels for this cheap right now?
 

darkwing

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,969
if it will not go negative today, tomorrow then

oil companies will pay you to store their oil lol
 

Ziltoidia 9

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,141
Yeah it will take a week or two I'm sure at these prices. But why wouldn't they be in the green still if they're able to buy barrels for this cheap right now?

I don't know. The only thing I do know is oil is lagged by a few weeks. I don't know how the price is set at stations. Some states have higher oil taxes than others.

Now is a good time to apply a little boost to the oil tax though, to help rebuild our infrastructure.
 

RolandGunner

Member
Oct 30, 2017
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WTF is going on?! I can't understand what that would mean for the economy.

This is a short term thing where producers are basically giving oil away rather than pay to store it. This is also shale oil that has to be heavily processed to make gas or plastic. It means that we are going to see a fall in production soon that will hurt states dependent on the oil industry for revenue but everyone else will save some.

What's the mechanism that keeps WTI landlocked? Agreements?

WTI literally is West Texas Intermediate. The fields out in west Texas are so spread out it costs a lot to haul oil to a pipleline so it can be shipped to Houston for processing.