You are dead right and having the exact reaction they want you to have. XBLG is the worst deal in gaming right now, but you know what GPU is the best deal so move on over :)
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Official Update on Xbox Live Gold Pricing from Microsoft
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Ding ding ding, and this is why they did it on a random ass Friday in the middle of January at the start of a generation. No one will even think about it by this holiday season.
Isn't it sad though. If sony did though, I would still keep buying them for $30 like i do now but that would really suck
Game Pass is trebling (if not more) the average user spendings on the platform. They clearly wanna go full steam on this.
Only time will tell if this will work in their favor.
Still this is like the worst way to do it.
The 'grandfathering' here is pretty decent; Netflix for example gives current subscribers a break from price increases for a month or two at max.
This seems to indicate that they really want people to stay subbed rather than dip in and out. I dont think there is enough value in online at this price point but I am a GPU subscriber. I hope they do make f2p free for online play.
It is also my guess that they have an inkling where the industry is moving. COVID has raised the bar on how much people are willing to pay for services like these (see Netflix increase to CAD18.99 at the high end in Canada.) I expect a PSN price increasing coming soon. Time to stock up on the cdkeys deal
This seems to indicate that they really want people to stay subbed rather than dip in and out. I dont think there is enough value in online at this price point but I am a GPU subscriber. I hope they do make f2p free for online play.
It is also my guess that they have an inkling where the industry is moving. COVID has raised the bar on how much people are willing to pay for services like these (see Netflix increase to CAD18.99 at the high end in Canada.) I expect a PSN price increasing coming soon. Time to stock up on the cdkeys deal
I think he is right sadly. I wish consumers wouldn't forget and MS would backtrack. But as we've seen time and time again, people quickly forget some decisions made by Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo and every other company.
And to think that a few months ago, many many people were seriously entertaining the notion that Microsoft were dropping the online paywall entirely. Instead, MS went in the other direction.
And the best part is, people still have to pay to play f2p games!
And the best part is, people still have to pay to play f2p games!
Well as of right now Target still has 12 months for $60 on their app. Would I be able to say purchase 4 of them and enter the codes on my Xbox as soon as I get them? Like would my Xbox just accept the codes and stack the years? Or would it only let me add one?
Wait so if I buy a 12 year of Xbox live gold for 60 right now, it'll give me GPU for 12 months?
I'm subbed up to Game Pass Ultimate for years, and I am absolutely dissatisfied with the value that Gold brings to that package. Gold (gated multiplayer, Games with Gold, Deals with Gold, Free Weekends) should have been dissolved and Gold's dollar in the Game Pass Ultimate bundle should be shifted to new features (like how the recent GPU Perks and cloud gaming added value).
The price hike is bad, but gated multiplayer (especially for F2P games) ideally shouldn't be a thing on Xbox consoles as the XGS multiplatform approach has been realized, Gold not being a thing on (non-cloud) platforms where you can play XGS titles.
Microsoft could sunset Gold, they could do the work to make new deals with publishers to let customers keep their library of non-360 GwG rentals and shift premium Microsoft Store deals to Game Pass subscribers. Make Free Weekends actually free for people who already own an Xbox.
I don't agree that this price hike is irrelevant to Game Pass Ultimate subscribers - we're still paying for Gold.
The price hike is bad, but gated multiplayer (especially for F2P games) ideally shouldn't be a thing on Xbox consoles as the XGS multiplatform approach has been realized, Gold not being a thing on (non-cloud) platforms where you can play XGS titles.
Microsoft could sunset Gold, they could do the work to make new deals with publishers to let customers keep their library of non-360 GwG rentals and shift premium Microsoft Store deals to Game Pass subscribers. Make Free Weekends actually free for people who already own an Xbox.
I don't agree that this price hike is irrelevant to Game Pass Ultimate subscribers - we're still paying for Gold.
Bad optics. They are trying to push users to GPU, but there has to be a better way than doing this
You don't even have to go that far. Nobody will think about this 2 weeks from now
I don't need to. I know how news goes in this world
You can only stack a certain amount at once (I think up to 36 months) and if you're currently a GPU subscriber I don't think it won't actually add all 12 months on. The conversion rate isn't 1:1. To get a 1:1 gold to GPU conversion rate you need to be a gold subscriber converting to GPU, not a GPU subscriber adding more gold.
they are charging you $0.01 for the convenience of entering only one code
I can see some news outlets already salivating on their juicy clickbait:
"XBOX consoles now require a minimum of $120/year to play Free-2-Play titles like Warzone and Fortnite!"
lol
"XBOX consoles now require a minimum of $120/year to play Free-2-Play titles like Warzone and Fortnite!"
lol
You have to upgrade it to GPU by buying at least one month of GPU, but yes it will convert all of your gold to GPU.
It Is... but game pass has kinda changed that for me lately, ironically considering this thread. Games going up in price has been a real turn off, here in Canada they've broken the $100 barrier after tax which is really hard to justify personally. The game has to be like GOTY quality to get me to pay that.
I am now at the point where the vast majority of my gaming is through game pass, and any other games I only buy on deep discount after they've been out a while. And since I got all my current Ultimate time via cheap conversions I feel like I'm getting away with robbery. I essentially got 3 years for the cost of buying 2 new games. I know the deals will end eventually but I've been supplementing it with MS rewards, and buying actual GPU codes when they are 50% off (usually only once a year). So I am keeping it topped off close to 3 years most of the time.
You're still in a position to get up to 3 years or Ultimate for cheap. 12 months can still be purchased for $60 then converted. This can only be done when you have no ultimate on your account.
the first month of ultimate you buy will convert all gold time to ultimate.
It's a bummer for people who play F2P games on Xbox. Hopefully they allow free to play games to literally be free.
Definitely feels like a way to push more people to gamepass, its really not surprisng.
Definitely feels like a way to push more people to gamepass, its really not surprisng.
That's literally the truth.
It's also a more useful headline than "Official Update on Xbox Live Gold Pricing from Microsoft" :P
Still waiting for Sony to follow suit and start charging for F2P...and increase the price for PSNow since it doesnt need Plus. It can happen, but so far the only thing they followed suit with is charging for online MP. And even that has a caveat F2P.
And this is one of the advantages of selling more consoles. More consoles sold = dont really have to do moves like this. They can, but they dont have to just follow suit.
.....I wonder do ppl ever really wonder why for PS4, PS5 free 2 play stayed free and Plus isnt needed for PSNow....
I wonder do ppl still think console sales dont matter....
But the armchair Microsoft executives told me that Game Pass is sustainable as it is!
and then what is this person supposed to do three years from now? Be stranded with a $120/year sub? We don't spend $500 on a new console just go get three years out of it.
I totally get that but it's gross manipulation and not everyone is going to jump to Gamepass, probably fuck this, attitude.
What they should have done is axed Gold.
Gamepass - 120 bucks
Gamepass Ultimate 'with XCloud, Discounts' - 180 bucks
Multiplayer Free or at the very least F2P free. Should be the former, great PR and offerings.
This is just shit, complete shit.
Halo Infinite multiplayer is F2P for 120 bucks! Get the fuck outta here.
It's not so bad when you think of all the games you get to play with it, but damn that's a lot for a subscription service. Can you only do monthly payments?
Microsoft did this to push people off Gold and onto Game Pass. Not cause of console sales. You guys have an addiction to console sales lol
I can't comment on the legal aspects of switching people over but there had to be a better way to do it then raising prices especially as high as they've done? Doubling the yearly gold price is crazy
Fuck this, MS are being greedy as hell and arbitrarily trying to force people into GPU...
Sony and Nintendo better not ever follow suit and increase their prices like this.
Sony and Nintendo better not ever follow suit and increase their prices like this.
It's not clickbait if it's true. If anything, I hope gaming media sites actually go for scathing headlines like that to deter MS and other console manufacturers of increasing their online sub prices like this.
You're not technically subscribed to Gold when you have Game Pass Ultimate. It converts to the other sub and is considered lapsed at that point. Online play and the other parts of Gold are just a perk of GPU.
Thank you. 36 months it is. Ugh man. This is becoming too much..
i don't think you can compare the cloud save with F2P
people play those games more because its free and very popular and save you have enough storage to save it in the hard drive and it will not take a lot of space and you can use flash to save it
Microsoft make the cloud save free because they have advantage they have server Azure something the Competitors do not have it
Yes, I think they should offer a discounted yearly subscription to try to ease some of this.
There's no clickbait there. That's part of the population getting screwed by this as long as F2P online games require a sub.
PS5 with €80 games, Xbox with online paywalls. I'm surprised Nintendo hasn't axed their voucher program in Europe yet. I can get first party Nintendo games for €50 at launch.
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