The thing is people become accustomed to these price increases, and mostly the general public won't even notice it.
I mean we are regularly getting 1000+ Dollar phones and people are still eating them up
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Official Update on Xbox Live Gold Pricing from Microsoft
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I mean we are regularly getting 1000+ Dollar phones and people are still eating them up
One offers hundreds of tv shows and films (with original content) and the other allows you to play online, where it is cheaper or free elsewhere.
If this was a comparison to gamepass then that's fine, but you can't compare gold to media streaming services because they don't offer the same kind of thing and the competition is much different.
Edit: Also, Netflix is available on every deviceunder the Sun. MS needs people to invest in an Xbox and then subscribe, and if you are weighing up your options then this will be factored in by consumers.
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MS is truly the worst ever thing to ever happen to gaming in general. It's because of them that online play is no longer free and that paying for DLC has been normalized. With the Xbox One, they attempted to kill your ability to lend/resell games as you see fit. Thankfully they failed. But they still tried and could have gotten away with it. They tried to remove your ability to play offline. With Game Pass, they're setting a permanent recurrent hook on your wallet. They expect that you will remain subscribed forever, hoping that at some point, your life will get in the way of you being able to play enough games to make it worth the price, yet remain subscribed just because you'll forget or not bother to unsubscribe, turning it into a losing proposition for you, and a winning proposition for them. If Kinect had taken off and became the success they had hoped, you can bet that at some point, they would have tried to justify you paying more for watching movies if more people were detected in the room. They registered patents for it. They have always been evil, and will always be evil. This price increase is yet one more example of this.
£70 games, £60 controllers (£70 for joy cons...), £450 consoles, service price hikes, day-one DLC and expensive season passes...
My view that the PS1 and PS2 generations were the golden era of gaming remains firmly intact.
My view that the PS1 and PS2 generations were the golden era of gaming remains firmly intact.
Gonna be interesting how that goes when gamepass prices go up. I have been paying for Xbox Live Gold or .. Gamepass Ultimate since I was 22 years old... I am 43 now. So it is so baked into my mindshare as well as have all my kids into it and family it is hard to imagine not paying for it. BUT raising things 100% out of the blue is one way to make me say "I am out"
although I agree with most of what you said the presence of GPU changes this argument. I dont know anybody who has an Xbox and doesnt sub to GPU and thats a better value. If anything this will just drive ppl to that.
Yes, unfortunately people are great at voting with their wallets against their own interests.
That's how DLC and MTX became the norm.
This seems dumb without being able to announce free to play games like halo don't require it as a counter
I guess this is just the costs hidden behind the low hardware price. You can't build an equivalent pc for the same price, but whatever you build, you don't have to pay up to $120 per year for online.
I see they're taking the iPhone model approach back when phones went over a thousand dollars. Hike the price up drastically for essentially the same thing as you were getting before. Sure there will be less people that subscribe but they will make more money per person that does subscribe.
That and this then increases the value of GPU. Win, win for MS. Lose, win for subscribers.
That and this then increases the value of GPU. Win, win for MS. Lose, win for subscribers.
So I'm guessing you play on PC only? That's the only plat you don't have to pay for online.
You're not really responding to my post...I never said this wasn't scummy.
I am invested in Xbox and fuck Microsoft to do this. Fuck these corpo assholes.
There is no reason to do this. It's the opposite of what they should be doing if they want to complete.
There is no reason to do this. It's the opposite of what they should be doing if they want to complete.
Wow..
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I think you might have issues with Capitalism in general if stuff like this bothers you.
What if, like most people, you don't give a shit about Game Pass and just want to play your multiplayer games with friends?
What a dog shite deal.
What a dog shite deal.
Can't believe 60 for 6 months is real, an actual joke. If Game Pass is the best deal in gaming (hard to argue against), Gold is by far the worst.
And not only that, you can generally get much cheaper prices overall for the games you do want to play with PC.
So you can still buy a year at $60 on Amazon, but not through MS. I don't get the strategy here. I don't see the point of increasing the cost for online barrier. If anything, Gold should disappear or become something else, like access to streaming.
Microsoft and Xbox have been killing it with good will towards gamers except for gold being complete trash and just a bad deal all around. The only way this makes sense is this is their secret way of getting gold members to convert to UGP since that makes more sense than to pay this. Not saying that's a great plan but that's the only thing that would make sense to me
They absolutely deserve huge blowback for this.
Unless they want to go for consistency and bring Xbox Live Gold to PC/mobile and think they can get away with this (they'd fail horribly), they should realize that it's pretty clear Gold is an unneeded tax on just Xbox players. Increasing it is just salt in the wound.
I hope they see a 2013 Xbox One blowback for this.
Even if they announce that... it still sucks.
If Sony were to announce PS+ going up to $120 annually, I assure you it wouldn't be met with "well, at least free to play games are still free!"
How are they so tone deaf to their audience? How in the right mind though this was a good idea?
GPU is $15 a month so it really is pay the price hike or pay what you normally pay for both services but without the lower prices on code websites.
Ouch. Not even a mild increase. They just outright DOUBLED the price.
And I'm laughing sadly at those rumors a few months back that Xbox might be DROPPING their online paywall restrictions. Literally went the opposite direction, full speed.
What else is there to say? It sucks for customers and gamers and nobody should be happy about it.
And I'm laughing sadly at those rumors a few months back that Xbox might be DROPPING their online paywall restrictions. Literally went the opposite direction, full speed.
What else is there to say? It sucks for customers and gamers and nobody should be happy about it.
To those that largely just like to play COD, COD Warzone, Fortnite, Apex, Or Sports games, the system just got more expensive.
There are still a lot of people who won't subscribe to gamepass as that does not suit their play habits.
This bolsters my decision to invest in a PC soon.
There are still a lot of people who won't subscribe to gamepass as that does not suit their play habits.
This bolsters my decision to invest in a PC soon.
🤷♂️ That's how the world works. Doesn't matter what the product is. 500 dollar AirPod pros sold out even though many people were up in arms.
Also I don't if it is me, but free to play has to drop soon for them with this price increase. You don't want to lose your cut on mtx from Warzone and fortnite.
I have loved almost everything that Microsoft has been doing these past couple of years. However, this? Yikes. Terrible decision. 25% increase? Okay, maaaaaybe. But a 100% increase is outrageous. They are still winning over the hearts and minds of the gaming community, but this will not help. I'm a GPU member anyway so it doesn't really bother me much, but still.
Absolutely insane decision. The gold service has lost value over the last decade with free services like Steam and Discord offering much better features, GwG being atrocious and Game Pass offering such great value.
It's basically a big fuck you to any Xbox owner who doesn't subscribe to Game Pass
It's basically a big fuck you to any Xbox owner who doesn't subscribe to Game Pass
Is there a name for when you deliberately kneecap one of your own products in order to make people go to another one of your products?
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