The arms race they have all been a part of just got a huge escalation, yes.Sonly has to buy somebody to counter this, right? It's grow or shrink time. Amazon and Facebook and maybe Google will want to make a move too.
Interesting. I haven't really read about this before. Care to expand?
it benefits gamepass players on PC and xbox. The only people it doesn't benefit are people who only own snoy consoles and refuse to get anything else.
It's as I feared then...
I think for existing games you're right. I just think any new games they'll evaluate it on the IP itself.
Call me crazy but I don't think starfield or the next elder scrolls is targeting ps4/xbox one
Well it's definitely not as easy as you make it seem. Almost every single person who has either a Playstation or Xbox only has one of them. Folks with both of these consoles like PS4 and XB1 are an absolute minority, and I can definitely understand why.
99/100 aren't going to buy both because of the obvious similarities. They are heavily invested in a certain ecosystem with digital libraries, BC, PS+, Xbox Live Gold, Game Pass and peripherals. Jumping from one console is expensive and cumbersome whatever the case, and even if money isn't necessarily an issue, most still don't want to do it out of preference, and this is the case even at Era based on a poll in the thread about next-gen plans after the acquisition. The poll still heavily leans to PS5, just like a week ago. Then there's PC, which just isn't an option for most console gamers for multiple reasons.
Then we find ourselves in a situation where a third-party publishers acquisition this big leads to a case where an overwhelming majority of Bethesda games' console players are just locked out of the sequels, because they still want to buy a PS5. The acquisition doesn't save any studios or make the games better per se, as they were successful already. It just makes a clear and established consumer base way smaller for long running franchises. It's just very, very silly to outright say that people should buy Xbox then. It doesn't solve the problem. Most people aren't going to buy a whole console for a couple of games. This then can lead to an arms race in a sense, where Sony will feel forced to make a big acquisition too, which just isn't a good thing for the industry at all.
First, why are you emotionally invested in the dealings of a corporation? Second, exclusives have always been and will always be a part of the industry. Bethesda games used to be PC exclusive, so was Arkanes work, and id softwares. Now they are seemingly exclusive to the MS ecosystem. It is not some massive swing in the gaming industry, it is just another incentive to get consumers to get their product. This is what every company does.
Purchases like this aren't generally made with "cash reserves."Technically, neither is my monitor randomly disappearing only to reappear a second later. More seriously, That level of acquisition would be very difficult for Sony to pull off with their cash reserves, and frankly, I am not sure why TTwo would want this, as they've generally been doing quite well from a market cap perspective over the last 3-4 years.
Some of these takes are just wild.I'm not really sure this (Zenimax acquisition) is as huge a benefit for Xbox as some people might think initially. Obviously a lot of money changed hands, but Bethesda has done a lot to wreck their own brand already this generation, especially with Fallout, and MS/Xbox doesn't have a history of improving game studio brands after acquiring them, quite the opposite actually.
With the exception of Elder Scrolls and Doom I've been thinking for a while that based on Bethesda's sales from the back half of this generation that Bethesda could shudder all but those two of their franchises and most gamers would either easily move on or simply wouldn't care.
I'd hope all companies would instead of buying out companies, expand their studios. Think about how many games Microsoft could fund with 7.5 billion dollars.
I think for existing games you're right. I just think any new games they'll evaluate it on the IP itself.
This is a weird take. Sony has the bunch of timed exclusives. This is a full acquisition to work with the studios as part of their whole team and organization. It's not some exclusivity contract.This isn't a both sides debate: locking an entire publisher or genre exclusively to one platform is worse than temporary exclusivity or limited DLC exclusivity. There is no equivocation here - one lets both sides play a game eventually while the other says only one side can EVER play a game.
exclusivity is bad if it's a game or an item, dlc. But if it's for a publisher and their entire catalog wowwwwwwww amazing.The contrast between this thread any any other "exclusivities" threads is giving me tonal whiplash
This is absolutely incorrect. Sony is not a small or poor company.
You don't spend 7.5 billion for timed exclusivity.MS isn't going to withhold TES6 or Starfield from PlayStation. Maybe they make them wait, but those games will release on as many systems as possible. You can bet on that.
If the shoe was on the other foot, and Sony made this acquisition, then for sure those games would be locked to PlayStation. But MS has shown, repeatedly, that they have different goals in mind.
There are Bethesda games on Switch as well. Not a ton, but some.
I doubt it. They clearly had no issues signing limited time exclusivity for Deathloop on PS5 while talk were supposedly going on.So if this deal has been in the works for two years, I wonder if that's a potential reason we've not seen hide nor hair of Starfield and ESVI in a couple years?
Did they not want to reveal any info when they didn't know what platforms they'd be restricted to?
it is, MS has a history trying to establish monopolies. Why do you think they want game pass on every device? Why do you think they give it away at such a low price and lose money? Why do they buy studios all the time and now a publisher? It's not simply to sell more consoles or beat Sony.
At this point they should just buy a gaming headset company.
A third party title releasing day 1 on Gamepass is not the same as an exclusive title releasing on the service. They want you to subscribe to Gamepass. They can't get you subscribed to Gamepass if you only have a PS5.The draw of Game Pass is the value, not necessarily exclusives. The fact that you don't have to pay $70 for those titles is reason enough to choose Game Pass over purchasing it on any platform. There's no reason for them to also miss out on the money from the huge install base on PS5. It's the same school of thought as to why they offer games on Steam
What did it say?
You don't think the fact this is the single-largest purchase of popular IP in the history of video games yields some discussion about monopolies? Anti-trust concerns?
There's a legitimate reason to use that term in this discussion. No need to hand-wave because it makes Game Pass better.
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Take Two is publicly traded though; highest holder has about 10% ownership... I think it's pretty hard to "buy" a company like that or take over a controlling stake isn't it?This is absolutely incorrect. Sony is not a small or poor company.
It won't end well for us, that's for damn sure.If Sony wants to get into that kind of a fight with Microsoft, it's probably not going to end well for them.
You make an offer to the board, shareholders vote.Take Two is publicly traded though; highest holder has about 10% ownership... I think it's pretty hard to "buy" a company like that or take over a controlling stake isn't it?
Microsoft didn't mention anything about Bethesda being part of Xbox Game Studios, the company's in-house software publisher.
It does make sense if their end goal is to get people on gamepass. They'll make plenty of money from Xbox+PC+Android, possibly switch. Sony is their only direct competitor, they're not going to feed them their first party content. I can see these games coming to playstation if they allow some form of gamepass on their console.
This is a weird take. Sony has the bunch of timed exclusives. This is a full acquisition to work with the studios as part of their whole team and organization. It's not some exclusivity contract.
they can provide a ton of content for game pass. that's what microsoft is after.I'm not really sure this (Zenimax acquisition) is as huge a benefit for Xbox as some people might think initially. Obviously a lot of money changed hands, but Bethesda has done a lot to wreck their own brand already this generation, especially with Fallout, and MS/Xbox doesn't have a history of improving game studio brands after acquiring them, quite the opposite actually.
With the exception of Elder Scrolls and Doom I've been thinking for a while that based on Bethesda's sales from the back half of this generation that Bethesda could shudder all but those two of their franchises and most gamers would either easily move on or simply wouldn't care.