I could buy into that, Microsoft planning on becoming the biggest producer / provider of video game based digital content vs trying to win a console war.
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I could buy into that, Microsoft planning on becoming the biggest producer / provider of video game based digital content vs trying to win a console war.
Zenimax is a major publisher. This situation is not at all like MS buying Playground.
I mean I am a PS guy since PS3 days and I never have or never will own a Xbox console (as of series x at least) but even I can see how much fucken value Xbox is providing now days, even before today's acquisition. Fuck even if one is a fanboy for playstation, such great competition is amazing for the PS players. Without a competent XBOX brand, you can't even imagine how badly Sony would've been squeezing us for dollars and cents. So ya, salt is completely unreasonable even for a fanboy. Granted fewer games from those studios for Sony consoles as time goes on but should get Sony to do something extra now for their brand.
Less complaining about more RPGs and just wondering if the lack of competition due to all the studios being under the same umbrella may affect the product.
I'm having fun imagining this set of underwater organic doors. Sounds like something out of R-Type. With sharks.
I guess you missed all the "anti-consumer" talk the last 6m-1y. Or ignored it. Still, as bad as those moves were, this is something completely different and with far larger implications.
No, was specifically PS4. Given it was two years ago maybe they thought it would close a while back.
I think dev teams are going to grow or at least be safe. It's overlapping admin staff that might take the hit.
I think the sharks were coming anyway. Every form of media is consolidating, unfortunately.
I don't like this move, but I think these kind of moves are inevitable, unfortunately. I think this is more likely MS reading the tea leaves and seeing that this is coming, and they might as well get out in front of it for once.
Now I want an R-Type game where the ships are sharks but they still shoot lasers. ShaRk-Type.
You can buy the games, and they even give a discount. You aren't forced to choose between keeping it while it's on the service, or owning it.
This is fantastic in the sense it means those games will come to GamePass day and date but I really hope they won't be exclusives. I'm getting an XSX and not a PS5 but I still think it'd be shit if the games didn't go to other platforms.
You gotta think there'd be a revolt from gamers if it wasn't on Sony's machines.....
You gotta think there'd be a revolt from gamers if it wasn't on Sony's machines.....
Is that what they said? "We're straight-up cloning Elder Scrolls, lol"?
I'm aware Minecraft is the biggest game on the planet but it's still one game and studio. Bethesda is an entire publisher's worth of studios with iconic IPs hence why they paid a three billions more.
Considering how important game pass is to MS going forward, I look at this situation similar to say Netflix producing multiple cyberpunk series. For fans of those types of series, it just means they're going to sub to Netflix to get all of those series instead of having to choose between purchasing a copy of one or the other.
These studios aren't really competing against each other for sales as much as they're working together to sell a service. Anyone interested in western RPGs are looking into game pass right now and that's exactly what MS wants.
These studios aren't really competing against each other for sales as much as they're working together to sell a service. Anyone interested in western RPGs are looking into game pass right now and that's exactly what MS wants.
Hold on bro.
If Sony releases full blown reveal of god of war tomo morning and announces it as a march 2021 then no one will care about 70$. Ps5 will be latched up like hot cakes.
You dont miss Sony exclusives as a gamer.
Yes, well i'm talking about the studios themselves, not the publishing team which would invariably be subject to layoffs. What's your opinion on the whole thing anyway?
Honestly, the setup evokes how excellent the Original Xbox and Xbox 360 were in pushing WRPGs - Morrowind, Oblivion, Kotor + Kotor 2, Jade Empire, Fable + Fable 2, Mass Effect + Mass Effect 2 are all titles that many gamers cite as some of their favorite experiences on Xbox.
You say it's terrible for consumers but it's great news for game pass members who will now get the Bethesda library added to their catalogue.
It also shows Microsoft's dedication to remain in this industry for a long time to come. Increased competition is also a good thing for consumers.
It may have the opposite affect and they end up pushing each other to new heights.
InExile is rumored to have gotten a big budget for a very ambitious project. They also just moved into a big building and are expected to grow.
Some more than others. Who has been the last one to moneyhat content off of 3rd party games the last several times?
I never said you can't. I said I prefer to buy (please keep the difference between you and I in mind)
So thank you for reminding me that I can obviously still buy games, which I already do despite game pass being 3€/month for me for the longest time now.
I have a gaming PC. This in no way affects my ability to play these games. It's objectively bad for one company to buy up all of their competitors. Microsoft is not doing anything positive here. They're just spending billions buying up successful multi-platform game companies because the ones they've already built can't manage to make consistently good games. We'll see how good their games are when they come out, but from a market perspective it would be of much greater value to us as players if Microsoft had spent $8 billion on developing their own games rather than just to lock away The Elder Scrolls from Sony.
"After rigorous number crunching and pre-order analysis, we've determined the optimal amount of server backup needed for the rush of Xbox pre-orders tomorrow. Phew. That's that. Two days until the chaos. Time for a much needed drink."
"Microsoft just bought Zenimax."
"...fuck my life."
I see this as a good thing. Some of the best RPG studios around are now under one umbrella, sharing resources and bouncing ideas off of each other.
Slightly off topic, but I still find it odd that gamers and games media have been pushing this narrative of there being some sort of rivalry between Obsidian and Bethesda Game Studios. It seems to frame almost every single discussion about the two whenever anything tangibly related about them cross.
Slightly off topic, but I still find it odd that gamers and games media have been pushing this narrative of there being some sort of rivalry between Obsidian and Bethesda Game Studios. It seems to frame almost every single discussion about the two whenever anything tangibly related about them cross.
no, gamepass is seperate, unless you're getting that "All Access" plan, then its for 2 years (and note that is for Gamepass Ultimate which is gamepass/xbox live and some other features like EA Access and some other perks).
Ok? They WILL continue making and releasing games on the platforms that are available.
Business as usual for Nintendo, whatever they can get multiplat, they still will .
Sony will for the short term still get all the multiplats they would've expected. Anything that multiplatform work has started on will finish as multiplatform.
In the medium term, smaller multiplats will go exclusive to Xbox/PC the heavy hitters will go timed exclusive (1-2 years) and maybe full exclusive in some cases.
Microsoft will not just completely block the catalogue from Playstation, it doesn't make financial sense to block out 2/3rds of console gamers permanently.
Microsoft in 2022-2023 will have an insane lineup for Gamepass.
Sony will for the short term still get all the multiplats they would've expected. Anything that multiplatform work has started on will finish as multiplatform.
In the medium term, smaller multiplats will go exclusive to Xbox/PC the heavy hitters will go timed exclusive (1-2 years) and maybe full exclusive in some cases.
Microsoft will not just completely block the catalogue from Playstation, it doesn't make financial sense to block out 2/3rds of console gamers permanently.
Microsoft in 2022-2023 will have an insane lineup for Gamepass.
Or the dozens upon dozens of other times Sony went on a moneyhatting spree and walled the games behind their PlayStation "Advantage" garden. Come on dude.
Sony fits better with Apple: Movies, Anime (+Spider-Man) for AppleTV+, Music (biggest music major), high-tech presence in general (tv, audio, medical field), photo sensors.... would also give them access to a hardcore gaming audience.
Sony was valued at less than 15 billion 12 years ago... Even at 100 billion it would still make sense imo.
But don't know if it would be good for us... Apple has great products, but the prices are high too...
I like to think of these things in terms of how they will affect all gamers, on all systems, not just "game pass members". I said that I think console warring is pathetic, and I meant it.
Actually, I think this will the those games to not kill each other by coordinating the launches, and build a WRPG user base.
Microsoft is not going to put their future Bethesda games on the PS5. They're going to honor current contractual obligations and then that'll be it.
If you think you're getting ESVI or FO5 on PS5 you've got a rude awakening coming in four or five years.
