Isn't it really one of their only big profit makers? I thought sony took a loss on a lot of shit they make.
Also to say that Sony would buy zenimax for 1/4 their COH is ludicrous lmao
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Isn't it really one of their only big profit makers? I thought sony took a loss on a lot of shit they make.
Also to say that Sony would buy zenimax for 1/4 their COH is ludicrous lmao
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Imagine not having a PC or Xbox with GamePass this coming generation.Within two years
The last two rows are just unreal. Sure BGS is kinda hit or miss but id, Arkane, MachineGames and Tango are just legendary.Within two years
"Needless" seems like a fat overreaction.
How many people have here in particular laughed about Xbox and the "lack of exclusives", especially after Halo Infinite and its many development issues, was forced into a delay; have celebrated exclusivity to Playstation while doing the opposite when MS aquires, or otherwise even argued that MS should do something like this?
I'm sure from a business perspective this is much more meaningful than just all that. For the viability of their own xCloud and Gamepass push, this is particularly huge. Same from a technologies standpoint, as well as IP. These are mostly great established studios with strong heritage. It looks like something MS needed for sure and has plans for beyond just "console wars". Even as IP for film/tv and mechandise, this sort of thing is becoming more critical.
I appreciate the disappointment though, and it's not looking like the best thing for gamers, where one entity has ownership of large amounts of content previously expected to be available more broadly. Having said that, there are so many awesome studios/pubs at the moment, there will no doubt be plenty to take on any gap in the market
Capcom would be huge, but Rockstar (T-T), especially in the US market is in another stratosphere.
Yup.
Flatlined PS5 hype for me and I'm sure many others and leaves a constant dread about what will be acquired next and by who.
Always knew this would happen but it's still sad to see.
Great for me as a gamepass user , hopefully people on the ground don't lose too many jobs which is the shitty reality of these situations.
although I can't help but feel this is largely a reaction (a long term one) to Xbox has no games as Sony continues to buy timed exclusives well this is the answer to this. Gamepass is going to be a no brainier next gen which is exactly what purchases of this want.
although I can't help but feel this is largely a reaction (a long term one) to Xbox has no games as Sony continues to buy timed exclusives well this is the answer to this. Gamepass is going to be a no brainier next gen which is exactly what purchases of this want.
they dont care about game sales they want you subbing gamepass
Megaton news, for sure. But it will take around 3 years to see the full effects of this acquisition. The last two year from Bethesda in terms of games was rather weak - except Doom Eternal of course (personally I'm liked the first one more).
Metacritic:
Rage2 72%
Fallout 76 49%
Wolfenstein: Youngblood 68%
Doom Eternal 88%
Starfield and TES VI are still years away and nearest games (Deathloop, Ghostwire) will be locked in Sony ecosystem for at least few months. Also, we shouldn't forget about COVID impact - if it can delay games like Deathloop etc., it also means that Starfield/TES could be affected too.
Metacritic:
Rage2 72%
Fallout 76 49%
Wolfenstein: Youngblood 68%
Doom Eternal 88%
Starfield and TES VI are still years away and nearest games (Deathloop, Ghostwire) will be locked in Sony ecosystem for at least few months. Also, we shouldn't forget about COVID impact - if it can delay games like Deathloop etc., it also means that Starfield/TES could be affected too.
HUGE fucking guns, Fallout and Elder Scrolls exclusives, Starfield.....
This is wild!
For as much as I've gamed in the past 45 years I've read much, much more about my favorite hobby.
This is Awesome!
This will keep me busy for a long time.
For as much as I've gamed in the past 45 years I've read much, much more about my favorite hobby.
This is Awesome!
This will keep me busy for a long time.
On the Microsoft side, I think it benefits consumers in the short-term. Access to Game Pass is cheaper than buying the games outright unless you just want one and you have access to the service across a wide variety of devices. Hell $300 for the XSS plus the Game Pass subscription at $10 a month, pays for itself over the course of seven years based on the savings of not buying the games.
Given these comments I'm not expecting more Ori type of deals:
Xbox's Phil Spencer Has "A Ton Of Respect" For Nintendo, But Is Over Rumours About Select Titles Coming To Switch
"I'd rather be able to set more of an Xbox-level expectation for our fans"
www.nintendolife.com
Not a good feeling about this, especially on the heels of Nvidia acquiring ARM.
It's like if Coldsteel the Hedgehog got an Era account.
Imagine not having a PC or Xbox with GamePass this coming generation.
Cheap entry via xCloud makes these super accessible as that becomes more viable (except for iphone users!)
I wish people would stop quoting me while ignoring the gamers with only Sony/Nintendo consoles.
Celebrating what is "good for Microsoft", while ignoring the gaming community at large, is so weird to me.
I primarily game on PC by the way, so I don't even take a loss as far as access here.
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Yikes. Microsoft got outplayed on pricing and sensing another rout, they went and asked daddy to bail them out.
But you know what? Bethesa is a company that nearly all of its IP have been waning save for Doom; Elder Scrolls gets released like once every decade and legacy issues of their engine are more ancient, so in a way their sale makes sense, this is not a thriving company, but a struggling one. I have no doubt MS will be trying to leverage those IP more now but 'more' is not necessarily the solution, extensive changes and overhauls are. And I don't think Microsoft can steward a huge publisher such as this that needed to retool so much. Microsoft learned to be 'hands off' but they need to be very hands on in this case, and that is going to prove challenging for them.
Regardless, If they had bought some limited exclusivity, I would certainly buy an Xbox to play it, but I can't support this at all. This is a desperate move from them that makes some of their previous purchases and even some of their games in development look redundant; you have to wonder about people's jobs here. I really don't think Microsoft can successfully manage all these IP/Studios, nor do they have intention to. I'm willing to bet this blows up in their face and these IP will just continually shrink in value and waste away, and years from now only a very small, leaned out version of Bethesda remains that focuses on GAAS. Sad to say, but it would be best for the industry if they end up like another Rare. Shockingly, the pro-consumer cries of yore are deafeningly silent now.
But you know what? Bethesa is a company that nearly all of its IP have been waning save for Doom; Elder Scrolls gets released like once every decade and legacy issues of their engine are more ancient, so in a way their sale makes sense, this is not a thriving company, but a struggling one. I have no doubt MS will be trying to leverage those IP more now but 'more' is not necessarily the solution, extensive changes and overhauls are. And I don't think Microsoft can steward a huge publisher such as this that needed to retool so much. Microsoft learned to be 'hands off' but they need to be very hands on in this case, and that is going to prove challenging for them.
Regardless, If they had bought some limited exclusivity, I would certainly buy an Xbox to play it, but I can't support this at all. This is a desperate move from them that makes some of their previous purchases and even some of their games in development look redundant; you have to wonder about people's jobs here. I really don't think Microsoft can successfully manage all these IP/Studios, nor do they have intention to. I'm willing to bet this blows up in their face and these IP will just continually shrink in value and waste away, and years from now only a very small, leaned out version of Bethesda remains that focuses on GAAS. Sad to say, but it would be best for the industry if they end up like another Rare. Shockingly, the pro-consumer cries of yore are deafeningly silent now.
To put it in the most simple way possible: If Microsoft buys out all the competition, Microsoft has no more competition that forces them to do consumer friendly tactics like Game Pass. If, for the sake of argument, there is no more reasonable competition to Microsoft, Microsoft can do whatever they want to the consumer and the consumer has no other place left to go.
Read up on oligopolys and monopolys and why they are so hurtful and actually regulated in alot of countries. Its very basic economics stuff that has been proven right time and time again, there really is no arguing against that stuff like this deal is bad for everyone but the company itself.
Plus I would think that if Microsoft is now publishing Bethesda games that this would allow then to take a chunk of the profits for every game sold on PS5 in addition to the Game Pass money and games bought on Xbox and PC. Even if Sony doesn't sell 110 million PS5s their still going to sell well and that would be a lot of money to leave on the table after a huge acquisition like this. Perhaps I'm just in denial but I see it as a good possibility.
in 2017 there was a huge change in how MS saw Xbox. Phil no longer had to go through 3 people just to get an okay for something. Phil is a VP now and only has to go through the CEO now for decisions.
Take-Two would cost tens of billions to acquire. Seems unlikely, but I don't doubt for second Sony has a timed exclusive or two planned with them.
Because peopl wpuld constantly say that they didnt need to buy and xbox since there games come out on pc
A lot of people at Softworks are going to be "made redundant."
So, that's not great. :/
If there's one thing this situation has taught me, is that according to some posters it's that is OK for Sony to buy studios and have big exclusive games on their console, but not for Microsoft and XBOX.
They aren't trying to sell games or Xbox consoles. All of this is being done to add value to the Game Pass service. They want to be the premier game streaming service by 2025 with tens of millions of subscribers. MS clearly sees this as a massive future market, otherwise they wouldn't invest this heavily.
The ludicrous savings and value are in the subscription services. But just like video streaming services...you can't get EVERYTHING.
But you sure can get a lot! Enough for me.
Easily, even with 4 years of dev time per title. But these studios all have multiple teams working on multiple projects with different scales, so I would expect a much more frequent release cadence.
Pretty much. The genie is officially out of the bottle and now the arms race is going to begin. It's just gonna get worse from here.
By that logic, Microsoft buying every publisher would be pro-consumer, which technically is true because imagine the value on that game pass babyyy.
oh wow, well hope all those crying about exclusivity can relax, it's a business
everyone trying to get ahead
everyone trying to get ahead
Given these comments I'm not expecting more Ori type of deals:
Xbox's Phil Spencer Has "A Ton Of Respect" For Nintendo, But Is Over Rumours About Select Titles Coming To Switch
"I'd rather be able to set more of an Xbox-level expectation for our fans"
To be fair that's a quote from April and they literally just released Ori 2 on Switch, less than a year after Xbox.
Yes, this all came together in the reaction to playstations 40 minute show last week -_-
You're still only thinking?
I cancelled my PS5 orders near immediately, this is devastating news for PlayStation.
It would take a lot for there to be a monopoly in the gaming space. Three big guns with their own ecosystems plus PC and Google and Amazon. Plus all of the indie games and tools that are becoming easier to develop with meaning larger games from less people. I just don't see there being a realistic monopoly on this space anytime soon.