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Oculus being grouped into Facebook Reality Labs. Oculus brand to remain.
- Thread starter Gangrel
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Fuck that guy.
Anyways, I may be wrong, but I'm not reading this as the Oculus brand is going away, just that the Oculus team, and other teams working on related/tangential stuff are going to be under the 'Facebook Reality Labs' name.
But again, I could be reading it wrong.
You are 100% correct. Since it's been announced that you'll need a Facebook account in the future to use the hardware I'll never buy Facebook headsets again.* (which is a damn shame because a quest2 has the potential to be the perfect device.
*exception could be made if devices can be jailbroken and prevented from calling home
please someone release a quest competitor. Daydream seems done, and I don't see Valve doing the hard work in getting some Android SteamVR platform going.
A shame.
A shame.
I have to say the same thing I said in the last thread about the accounts.
What did you all think was going to happen when Facebook purchased Oculus? Integration was inevitable.
What did you all think was going to happen when Facebook purchased Oculus? Integration was inevitable.
Probably worth posting this recent comment by Palmer Luckey just in case anyone needs to be reminded just how presciently scummy Facebook is:
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Whatever. Dude lied about being a Trump supporter and is currently trying to get rich preventing people fleeing from horrors south of the border.Probably worth posting this recent comment by Palmer Luckey just in case anyone needs to be reminded just how presciently scummy Facebook is:
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So yeah. Fuck him.
Your device already calls home with telemetry and other data when you use Oculus software. Just because it's called an Oculus account instead of a Facebook account means nothing. Facebook is still getting the data. If they wanted to, they probably have a million creative ways of figuring out and connecting your Oculus persona to your FB persona.
Such a weird hill this forum dies on sometimes.
FRL, frail, ahahaha
You can add "ok grandma / grandpa"
Facebook over here is really branded "old people"
You can add "ok grandma / grandpa"
Facebook over here is really branded "old people"
So many people read the title of this thread and not the actual excerpt and are showing their whole ass out in these comments per usual.
This wasn't about Palmer or him being a liar. This is about how Facebook promised at the time that Oculus and Facebook would not merge at any point.
Not really. Before you could at least kid yourself that Occulus was being treated as a separate business than Facebook and weren't constantly reminded that it is owned by FB. Now with the login and company name change it's in your face. Clearly behind the scenes it probably never mattered but pushing the Facebook brand to the forefront is enough to make me bow out of their headset.
To only be anti-Facebook about Oculus only when the company decides to attach their names to anything, when you are already 100% in Facebook's ecosystem by owning Oculus hardware. It's a super weird dissonance. You are giving Facebook your money and data by owning an Oculus. Period.
"Kid yourself" is key here. It never did matter. I guess if the optics matter that much to you then sure?
I was responding to him complaining about getting heat from the media and being called a liar. He is a liar, and worse.
So fuck him.
Also, it has nothing to do with this (non)rebranding.
It matters to a lot of people which is why parent companies often times keep separate identities for their product lines.
A new Batman game by AT&T studios doesn't sound that sexy.
Indeed, but I figured in a forum full of enthusiasts people might be a bit more clued in.
In reality I also doubt Facebook is looking to monetize Oculus usage data the way people expect them to. It just really doesn't seem worthwhile.
What's with these reactions? Was Oculus somehow a clean brand to you before? This makes zero difference to what the company is
Who advised them on this ? Given the already nagging suspicion masses have of Facebook, idk if it's an advisable marketing strategy to make your headsets/VR tech synonymous with the Facebook brand.
Location data and which apps are used at what frequency, probably. For them it isn't likely about direct marketing to consumers based on this, but population center saturation and what types of products they may want to focus on internally based on said usage trends.
Right. Facebook mines data. That is their reason for existence in this world. Oculus was another avenue to mine data. It was never going to be anything but this path forward. I'm only surprised they took this long to make all these changes.
What can I say. Everything Facebook does is eeewwww. It was ew before this announcement and is eewwww after the announcement.
I've gotta agree with this. I'm totally onboard with anyone not wanting anything to do with Facebook etc but Facebook have owned Oculus for six years now. They bought Oculus in 2014, two years before the first consumer headset was even announced. I kinda feel like if Facebook is the big problem here then you shouldn't have gotten into their ecosystem at all past the first two dev kits? I don't know why am internal rebranding of all of Facebooks VR/AR/home device teams etc under one name would be more 'gross' than them buying the entirety of Oculus way back.
On the one hand, they're advertising a lot during the NBA playoffs and using "Oculus by Facebook". On the other hand, they've basically just announced the rebranding of a ton of new stuff: Oculus Connect becomes Facebook Connect, etc.
It seems like they have a huge announcement planned for "Facebook Connect" and the new Quest's release probably coincides with the new requirements that new hardware must use a Facebook login.
It really doesn't seem like there are many appealing saviors out there. You know Apple VR is going to be absurdly expensive (beyond everything else that's awful with Apple). Almost kind of hope we get Nvidia to enter the race. It would be stupidly expensive, but still less than what Apple will be charging for their abomination.
The only reason it matters to people is because they don't want it to be in their face that they support these companies. I mean, if you're against Facebook, you just shouldn't have an Oculus headset. There's great headsets from different companies. You're supporting Facebook if you have an Oculus, and you've been doing it for a long time.
I kind of agree this whole thing is dumb because it triggers this kind of stupid reaction about people suddenly being up and arms because something that's been Facebook for years suddenly calls itself Facebook. Just shows that people don't actually care what brand they support as long as it's not in their face that they're doing it.
At this point it's either ignorance or pure hypocrisy.
It's not like Oculus is the only competent headset on the market and people are stuck with buying it.
Only making a fuss when they add the word "Facebook" into the name is a weird hill, yes.
Was totally confused reading the thread title then the vomit of posts afterwards. Looks like a reorg with nothing much changing for end users.