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Ocarina of Time: The mystery of the dying soldier examined

Asbsand

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Good morning/afternoon/evening/night Resetera.
I bet most of you played Ocarina of Time to completion but only few of us proabably found this particular secret moment in the game let alone had the correct version of the game.

The secret is that before you make the first time-skip to become an adult, in that very sequence (Entering castle town after you saw Ganon chase Zelda and Impa out of the town) you can find a struggling guard in the alleyway. If you speak to him he warns you of a bad thing that happened at the castle, possibly tied to the incident with Ganondorf you just witnessed, and then the soldier faints, suggesting he might've died. This character was removed in certain versions of the game, and at least the 3DS versions.

Until now I always assumed it was for the same reason blood was removed from certain characters and maps - that it was censorship but a YouTube video I found today explores the peculiar moment from a new perspective.

(VIDEO): Why the Dying Guard in Ocarina of Time Hints at Something Bigger (Zelda)


Enjoy, and discuss.
 
JB2448

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Asbsand said:
The secret is that before you make the first time-skip to become an adult, in that very sequence (Entering castle town after you saw Ganon chase Zelda and Impa out of the town) you can find a struggling guard in the alleyway. If you speak to him he warns you of a bad thing that happened at the castle, possibly tied to the incident with Ganondorf you just witnessed, and then the soldier faints, suggesting he might've died. This character was removed in certain versions of the game, and at least the 3DS versions.
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No it was not.
 
LavitzSlambert

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Can someone transcribe and summarize so I don't need to watch a 10 minute video for what will amount to a minute or two of reading? Thanks in advance.
 
thetrin

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LavitzSlambert said:
Can someone transcribe and summarize so I don't need to watch a 10 minute video for what will amount to a minute or two of reading? Thanks in advance.
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The guard tucked away in the town that you can encounter just after Zelda and Impa escape the castle talks about being attacked by Ganondorf's forces, when no one other NPC says anything about other forces, and Ganondorf is shown on his own.

The theory is that the guard is from a previous version of the script where the town was attacked by Ganondorf's forces, and was left in the final game by mistake.

It's not mind blowing or anything.
 
BGBW

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No it was not.
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It's funny cos even the video in the OP says the guard is still in the 3D version.

While I've known about this for years, I've not really thought about it, but yeah it is rather odd they are the only casualty while the town casually goes about their business. Maybe he was holding on to Ganondorf's horse trying to stopped it but was eventually kicked off lol

LavitzSlambert said:
Can someone transcribe and summarize so I don't need to watch a 10 minute video for what will amount to a minute or two of reading? Thanks in advance.
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TLDW: The dying guard's dialogue might hint towards a scrapped story point where Ganondorf attacks the castle with an army and they forgot to remove the guard because he wasn't in the main town square.
 
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Asbsand

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Okay I was wrong about the exclusion of the character then - I must've checked the alley at the wrong time when I played on 3DS then.

Mind blowing or not I still think it's interesting to speculate about if the character really came from an earlier draft where the pre-timeskip moment was a different scenario.
 
WestEgg

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BGBW said:
TLDW: The dying guard's dialogue might hint towards a scrapped story point where Ganondorf attacks the castle with an army and they forgot to remove the guard because he wasn't in the main town square.
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I kind of always assumed there was some form of offscreen battle/sneak attack on the castle prior to Zelda fleeing anyway. Yeah, castle town was mostly oblivious to it, but like 1 goron notices the giant magical orange barrier around the castle in Twilight Princess, so I chalked it up to the Hylians just being that oblivious.
 
Vampirolol

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Nah, it's just a spy that helped Ganondorf escaping, and it's faking his death. I bet it's Twinrova masked.
BUT HEY... IT'S JUST A THEORY
 
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