well to be honest valve doesn't need to menoyhat given their position.
it's much like sony during the ps2 era..they had the most exclusives games between the 3 competitors and they didn't spend a dime to have most of them
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Observation (game from creators of Stories Untold, published by Devolver Digital) exclusive to Epic Games Store on PC
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it's much like sony during the ps2 era..they had the most exclusives games between the 3 competitors and they didn't spend a dime to have most of them
Luckily I don't give a shit about this game, but a what weak-ass showing from Devolver given their previous marketing.
A company like Capcom that apparently sells almost half of their PC/Steam copies for several games in China won't be easy to convince.
You can find several well-reasoned answers to that question in most previous related threads.
Epic's "rest of the world" strategy seems to be about as successful as MS' (read: not), so that's not surprising.
A company like Capcom that apparently sells almost half of their PC/Steam copies for several games in China won't be easy to convince.
That's a slightly different audience, though. I would think people that buy a game like this are aware of and active on Steam. Question is if they can change that.
Yeah, this really reminds me of Xbox US-focused strategy. Which is weird, since Galyonkin is a big part of it.
This is true, but also not really. In PS2 era is the time of hardware platforms. To multiplat you have to port them which cost time and money so most publishers just don't see it worth the cost most of the time. Storefront however, is a software platform. There is no porting, no extra money involved since it's literally on the same hardware. To put games on other than Steam requires minimal effort and rest solely on the shoulders of the publishers and the indies. PC have been always an open market due to its hardware nature that have been nurtured since IBM times.
You know why they are nailing?
I'm pretty sure they datamined the Steam wishlists from users
I wonder if these games are really selling, or the money they get directly from Epic makes the deal worth it even if they don't sell anything.
Being really honest, i doubt 99% of Fortnite players will even spend a penny to actually buy a videogame when they pretty much just play Fortnite.
Being really honest, i doubt 99% of Fortnite players will even spend a penny to actually buy a videogame when they pretty much just play Fortnite.
On one hand, yes. On the other, does EGS even have refunds at the moment? How would one check if the game even works well on their hardware?
100% okay with that. If that's the case, Half Life 3 could be an EGS exclusive.
fair enough, but the point was just that valve doesn't really need to moneyhat to have pretty much any game that runs on a pc,so the "valve doesn't moneyhat games" point is just a bit hollow since they never ever needed to.
I'd also doubt that 99% of the PC game buying public care about any of this drama.
EGS is a spyware, but they don't need to do that.
https://store.steampowered.com//search/?filter=popularwishlist
You're right.
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That's a global ranking. It gives you no info on which type of players put the game on the wishlist, correlation between games, etc
Yes EGS has refunds, the exact same model as Steam.
'Checking if the game works well on your hardware' isn't gonna fly here with regards to endorsing piracy.
True, but they didn't moneyhat even when they possibly needed to.
I think you might be right, but I think they'll reassess then
If they think they're making positive inroads then I would imagine they'll keep going
It's also likely that over time and as more games are Epic only, more people will stop resisting and will just accept they need to buy on the EGS if they want to play the game now
If PC gamers are happy to settle into getting a lot of games a year later on Steam, then that might cause them to stop or at least change tact
It seems unlikely to me they'll just give up entirely and other than money hatting they're miles off the competition at the moment
I guess they could pump tons of money into devs so they can make new games from the ground up for Epic, which I think would be an approach most people would welcome
Talk is cheap. There are more examples of games going EGS exclusive and suddenly having a higher minimum price than vice versa. Well, a few very generous regional prices not withstanding.
Don't worry people.
I suspect that Tim's economics will become real and the developers themselves will start offering their games cheaper.
I believe that is the first thing it will happen as soon as their games will be released on other stores.
I suspect that Tim's economics will become real and the developers themselves will start offering their games cheaper.
I believe that is the first thing it will happen as soon as their games will be released on other stores.
One can just go and play better games and get these when they finally release on Steam and possibly heavily discounted. There's not a single game on the Epic Store worth a Epic Store purchase, anyways .
Yup. Shame I don't get to play this but I'm not spending money in my Epic account any time soon, I don't like them or trust them. Only something insane like Bloodborne would break me.
But there's no proof that says the games sell nearly as well as it would have on steam or any other open store. It's more about the safe bet epic dishes out enough money to cover the cost of development plus something extra and you just hope your name is big enough to entice people over to the epic store.
They did when they launched the store. When did they need to do it after that?
And completely lose customer goodwill and potentially tank your sales.
Yeah. Devolver seems to do well with their games because they feel like not having really high budgets, but Observation looks a lot more expensive.
If Epic are paying enough money to actually fund the game, that would be obviously a good deal.
Potentially, not enough data on that as of yet. I think, as per usual, ResetEra is the very vocal minority.
"We are very happy to announce the launch of Darwinia on Steam. Introversion has teamed up with Valve to release Darwinia on their online games distribution platform making it available to millions of new gamers.
As part of the launch and Steam's exclusivity, we will no longer be offering Darwinia as a download option from our site, although it will still be possible to purchase shipped boxed copies. At Valve's request we will also be removing the demo from our site for about a month."
https://forums.introversion.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=40203
And other examples
Metro Exodus sold 2.5x of Last Light!!!
*on launch
**of a game that tracked 50k owners on Steam
***pls understand
I believe Epic has stated that Metro: Exodus sales were over twice that of Metro: Last Light on Steam during launch week at GDC.
Not sure what you're trying to say? Over twice as many sales is over twice as many sales, and this info is from Epic and Deep Silver instead of some third party tracking website.
Those numbers at their absolute are not impressive at all.
The thing is why didnt they specify Last Light Redux launch sales?
It also released in 2013 when most regions on Steam didn't have regional pricing for most regions. That comparison is still not a good one, the one Epic did. They are comparing 2013 Last Light (non redux) launch sales with 2019 EGS store sales.
Subnautica starts either SteamVR or OculusVR.
I've said before, if I was an Indie dev and Epic was offering money, I'd probably take it too. A guaranteed profit on your dev costs even if I'm not going to sell much on EGS seems worth it to me.
In a year when the exclusivity is up, I'd apologize and probably throw in something a little extra.
In a year when the exclusivity is up, I'd apologize and probably throw in something a little extra.
We'll see.
So you think Valve paid money to Introversion in order to make the game exclusive on Steam? A game that was only available through the developer's own site and nowhere else? Did you read the post you linked?
