Haha, good point.
Also, forgot to mention that the new world (Daiyu), reminded me A LOT to that old and cancelled SW "gritty" show they had planned several years ago.
Think there is a concept video around.
This one:
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Obi-Wan Kenobi |OT| Well of course I know him. He's me! [SPOILERS ON EPISODE DROP - NO LEAKS]
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Also, forgot to mention that the new world (Daiyu), reminded me A LOT to that old and cancelled SW "gritty" show they had planned several years ago.
Think there is a concept video around.
This one:
Reva is terrible. Can't believe they threw that actress to the wolves with such bad material.
You can't really split people into these two groups so cleanly.
So like a normal precocious child then. A spoiled princess.
The key phrase being in a matter of seconds in both directions. And the big difference between the two attitudes. Like she almost never is just an 10 years old.
Edit: a 10 years old child is a pretty mature one who understands a lot about the world and behaviours. Especially a well educated one.
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Didn't find the eps to be that bad.
Ok under heavy scrutiny, yes…
Leia's chase sequences were ridiculous.
Reva was lacking, both in terms of acting and writing.
Other inquisitors as well….I mean why show compassion when your whole purpose is to hunt Jedi? Felt it needed some justification for them to constantly bemoan Reva's methods, which were clever and successful in luring out Obi-Wan.
How did Obi not know Vader lived after a decade? Surely Vader was out there terrorizing and making his presence known?
They really didn't nail the landing for the force moment with Obi.
Leia STOP saying the word Jedi repeatedly in a crowded area FFS(I really liked her otherwise).
Perhaps I'm just too tired to nitpick and waste space getting bothered or hung up by this franchise anymore. I still came out interested and entertained despite the above. Wasn't bothered by the sets or stunts(well Reva was goofy, and some line readings could have been tightened up, but eh…I liked it). Music felt fine too. It could have been better, but I'm not really down on it.
Ok under heavy scrutiny, yes…
Leia's chase sequences were ridiculous.
Reva was lacking, both in terms of acting and writing.
Other inquisitors as well….I mean why show compassion when your whole purpose is to hunt Jedi? Felt it needed some justification for them to constantly bemoan Reva's methods, which were clever and successful in luring out Obi-Wan.
How did Obi not know Vader lived after a decade? Surely Vader was out there terrorizing and making his presence known?
They really didn't nail the landing for the force moment with Obi.
Leia STOP saying the word Jedi repeatedly in a crowded area FFS(I really liked her otherwise).
Perhaps I'm just too tired to nitpick and waste space getting bothered or hung up by this franchise anymore. I still came out interested and entertained despite the above. Wasn't bothered by the sets or stunts(well Reva was goofy, and some line readings could have been tightened up, but eh…I liked it). Music felt fine too. It could have been better, but I'm not really down on it.
Grand Inquisitor mentions something about Obi Wan not being hers to hunt. If one of them killed him before Vader, Vader would probably murder them in rage at not getting to kill him personally.
Tatooine is super remote, not like there'd be much news of the outside world there. It's a stretch that he wouldn't know about Vader, but I buy it.
the grand inquisitor got stabbed in nearly the same place Fennec Shand got shot in Mandalorian, and Boba Fett "fixed" her with robot parts. Since the GI got stabbed with a lightsaber in the gut, something-something bacta tank-robot Empire doctor engineer - now GI has a cyborg stomach and is a-ok.
Hell, maybe it already happened so they just have to replace his stomach bag, like a vacuum cleaner
Reva needed better lines but I like that she runs on actual anger. We have too many slimey/sneaky dark side users. Better to burn bright than fade away!
...have you never been around a kid of that age?
That's damn accurate.
Yeah, I got the impression that he'd gone there, made his hut, and just worked odd jobs until Bail contacted him. I guess it might be an issue that Bail doesn't know, but it's not helpful for him to tell Obi anyways. Obi seems pretty dead set on simply surviving until he can teach Luke, with little else for interest.
I am curious how much, if any, Qui Gon we're gonna get. When first revealed I thought it would be a big part of the show (Obi learning how to be a ghost from his old master) but it seems like the show will be too fast paced after this point to dwell on it much. It did at least get acknowledged.
Yes, I have a kid of my own (who's meanwhile bigger than that) and I saw also his friends/colleagues at the same age and still don't understand why people like you think a 10 years old behaves like a 5 years old. Especially girls are way more grounded in reality.
these shows should stop trying to do chase scenes
other than that, really liked these two first episodes
other than that, really liked these two first episodes
Was this a chase scene? This was great tho.
Or even this one (warning Gina Carano shown on screen)
Yea, I guess I can buy that the Inquisitors are intent on capturing Obi, but they saved various randos from the wraith of Reva as well, which is largely where I had issues. Like these inquisitors are not noble individuals, they are meant to enact fear in service of their goal, but Reva crossed the line threatening the locals? "Enough #3!! Sorry for the disturbance peeps, she'll be spoken harshly too! Go about your business...apologies again"
Also, the Vader thing. I can only buy the theory of Obi not being aware of Vader if:
1) Vader did jack all over the last ten years and not made himself public(not possible given Obi trembled the moment Reva mentioned his name. And she did say Vader first where the music swelled and you can see the fear in Ewan).
2) Obi was unaware that Anakin was Vader... also not possible given Ewan's reaction at the Vader namedrop. He knew before she said Anakin. If he truly though Anakin dead, the showrunner's fucked up by not making the dramatic tension swell at Anakin's name instead, which should have been more impactful.
Again, nitpicky, and its not a dealbreaker or anything for me. But it stood out while watching.
Ok I stand corrected any show that's not Mando should stop doing chase scenes lol
Obi-Wan knows that Anakin is Darth Vader. He watched Palpatine calling him by that name in Revenge of the Sith. But doesn't the show make it very explicit that Obi-Wan didn't know that Vader is alive? I mean, Reva outright said "You didn't know... Anakin Skywalker is alive."
Ah, it had been so long that I had watched RotS, I had it in my head that he was dubbed Vader at the end when he undergoes surgery and yells No!!!!! When was he named Vader again?
Still have a hard time believing Obi would be unaware of Vader not being alive after ten years. He is keeping an eye on Luke and intent to help him avoid the Empire's clutches(or awareness since it was secret births), so you would think he would keep informed if their goings on…but I guess whatever.
The Inquisitors:
a) In Jabba's Territory
b) Already decided to go with a good cop approach which Reva completely ignored. Their strategy is to sell the people into giving up info and paint the Jedi as the bad guys.
They're not noble, they were being manipulative
To me it's kind of strange that Obi-Wan thought Anakin was dead because surely if he'd died he would have sensed his death through the Force like we've seen many times in the films. When Anakin was fighting Obi-Wan, Sheev was even able to sense that Anakin was "in danger" from halfway across the galaxy. Leia felt Han's death, Rey and Leia felt Luke's death, really Obi-Wan and Anakin should have a similar connection.
Yeah, that felt like a bout of unnecessary drama. However, I can imagine this to be true up to a degree - he was all about keeping their head low and perhaps things had been relatively quiet there. You could see his reluctance to do anything but mope in his cave, cut sand fish meat and get toys for Luke. If Obi-Wan's feels aren't on the focus on later episodes I'll be disappointed. His world was destroyed by the Empire, not a difficult thing to psychologically guide yourself away. And, he could easily explain it to himself that any kind of inquiry would bring even the slightest attention that could turn to something else. He hid Luke.
I have to assume the Inquisitors are not mad at brutalizinh or killing civilians they just don't think she's being helpful
Grand was mad because she straight was going to kill the jedi Grand wanted to interrogate and general behavior
Brother stopped her when her tactic at least i think
I don't remember Fifth Brother being particularly sadistic in rebels while Grand definitely played with his food
The chase scene/s only needs a benny hill soundtrack. Other than that, I enjoyed it but I came in to just watch and never over analyze stuff, just watch and relax.
There are some criticism like why can't the inquisitors just get on their ship and chase after a slow-automatic freighter and stuff or the third sister came off just a bit over the top. I like Needles lol
There are some criticism like why can't the inquisitors just get on their ship and chase after a slow-automatic freighter and stuff or the third sister came off just a bit over the top. I like Needles lol
I feel like because Darth Vader is a popular character in real life people are equating that to everyone in the Star Wars galaxy knowing who Darth Vader is and that he exists and that's not the case.
Vader is a Sith Lord, he has no reason to exist in the public eye so why would anyone know who he is. Who would be telling Obi-wan about Darth Vader?1 About 98% of the people who know of Darth Vaders existence were Imperials lol.
Ah right. But no witnesses.
So my argument remains. How would Obi Wan know Vader was Anakin? If he truly believed Anakin dead(and Vader just some other asshat) until Reva spilled the beans, the producers effed up by not making the reveal as impactful in ep2 as it was to Luke in ESB.
Instead Obi Wan must have known Vader was Anakin but thought Vader was dead? So what was Vader doing after surgery for… ten years? Playing Switch?
I guess…this is reasonable to believe. But again if Obi wan is charged to protecting Luke and trying to live secluded I'd imagine he'd be watching the Empire closely to stay ahead of discovery.
The show (lightly) implies that Obi-Wan has been cutting himself off from the Force, or at least trying hard to hide himself in the Force, to avoid detection.
Ah geez…I really need to rewatch Ep 3. I forgot all of this.
I also want to believe Vader spent a decade playing his backlog while recovering from surgery which is why he is thought dead.
Though he didn't know Anakin became a cyborg so his reaction would be great especially when Ben wasn't shocked by Vader appearance (probably because Vader wasn't Anakin in New hope but whatever)
Flea took me out of the show completely. What a weird casting choice.
I was actually quite excited by Flea, for some reason. He perfectly fits that role if you hadn't seen him before, and he's a lot less known than Kumal.
"Darth Vader… any relation to Lord Vader? Vader is a very popular last name"
First two episodes were very entertaining, but man, those inquisitors are not even remotely threatening. Reva's acting and dialogue are both very subpar and while I do like the fact she is so rage-fueled, she just hasn't managed to come off as very competent yet. The other Inquisitors are even worse, especially the boss who died like a chump. I'm also not a fan of Obi-Wan's brawling so far, even though I get why he's resorted to using his fists. However, I am really enjoying young Leia, the actress is delightful and I love her dialogue and delivery. The rooftop chase scene was annoying, but hopefully she'll be less annoyingly bratty now and more endearingly bratty.
Overall, decent and entertaining episodes and I hope they continue improving!
Overall, decent and entertaining episodes and I hope they continue improving!
Nah I don't think Obi-Wan was honestly. I feel like if he was keeping tabs on the Empire in that way he would have known that they were building the Death Star for example.
And one of the biggest things to me that shows no one knows really knows about Vaders existence is that when he shows up in Rebels (which is years after this show) they (the ghost crew) have no idea who he is and they have been running missions fo the Rebels for years. Plus i think Erza even mistakes Vader as being an Inquisitor, and Erza was born on a planet controlled by the Empire mind you.
His species actually has two stomachs in the existing canon, conveniently enough.
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Forgot the ghost crew didn't know he was and i think crew in Fallen Order didn't either
So i guess he didn't become public knowledge till later
I'm guessing she was a youngling at the academy and heard Anakin mention Obi Wan as the reason for the attack… or something.