The world needs the SW of Stranger of Paradise. It'd atleast be more entertaining than what Disney's done so far.
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Obi-Wan Kenobi |OT| Well of course I know him. He's me! [SPOILERS ON EPISODE DROP - NO LEAKS]
- Thread starter WadiumArcadium
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Disclaimer: I have not played SoP, I've only seen the memes.
What's up with the grand inquisitor. How are they going to explain that... and the execution of the scene sucked, he would have killed her on the spot.
Put him in bacta for the rest of the season so that reva gets to shine. She'll likely lie about about how he got stabbed and put that on obi wan.
Really didn't like the first episode very much but the second one won me over. Really hope it ends up being good overall because I'm not going to lie I'm a sucker for anything that bridges the PT and OT eras. I won't try to argue that episodes 1-3 were good movies but goddamn do I love that time period in the lore.
IMO Ewan fucking carried the prequels (along with McDiarmid), but I don't know about this one. He just looks dazed and confused all the time. He wasn't kidding around when said he's not the same guy anymore. They are essentially two characters.
Also, I've seen so many rooftop chases in the last few years of media. It's not exciting.
Also, I've seen so many rooftop chases in the last few years of media. It's not exciting.
Tolkien went deeper into the language and, thematically, engaged on the various impacts of industrialization encroaching on fertile, untouched land, a subject which the movies largely sweep to the side. Whatever his struggle was, he still wrote a very basic black and white story and that basic story was adapted by Jackson. Nobody ever has a scintilla of empathy for the orcs and arguably shouldn't, and that's fine, because at its heart it's a very simple mythical good vs evil story.
If you want to write an LOTR story about Aragorn burying his face in his hands and lamenting the fact that he has to obliterate an entire race that was born into forced labor, it might be interesting, but that was obviously never the intention.
That's a far worse example. 300 is naked and completely intentional us vs them propaganda and so was the comic, written by a guy who doesn't even try to disguise his bigotry. A billion of those movies came out post-9/11.
LOTR is completely different. The idea there is that it was completely unintentional but still had an impact on otherizing a large group of people, particularly at that time. I'm not even saying I agree with it, but I do think it's a far more notable example of what you were talking about earlier. Plenty has been written about it.
Tolkiens belief in an absolute good and absolute evil came from his Christian beliefs, and he wrote letters on orcs stating he was uncomfortable writing a race that was irredeemably evil.
My point here being is that when he wrote a tale of black and white evil that didn't invite sympathy for the orcs, it came from his sincere deeply held personal beliefs, which I don't think is the case with star wars.
Its story of good and evil comes from convenience and unwillingness to grapple with the morality of inconvenient things. I obviously do not share Tolkiens worldview or beliefs, but his story isn't born out of the sheer ideological laziness SW has settled in. As I said, he took his storytelling seriously.
I'm not following what your disagreeing with me about here. If we're talking about movies that are meant to instill an othering effect on people, 300 is definitely the stronger example of that. I don't know about intentionality, but it accomplished the effect your describing much more effectively than LOTR did.
As far as LOTR goes, I think the idea that there is just a race of evil people is absolutely going to push people towards othering, sure. I don't disagree there. I just think most media does this when they make these sorts of 'evil' races and Tolkien is not unique in this.
I loved Korra at the time (even though it made me cringe at the same moments some people just plainly hated), but I've been surprised just how positive it's been recieved over the last 10 years on reaction channels and other places after both ATLA and Korra after they were uploaded to Netflix. The overall consensus from people who didn't have years of nostalgia from ATLA is that Korra has some flaws but it doesn't deserve the outright hate it got from a lot of places online and the fandom and was impressive in its own ways.
Yep. They're back to using young child actors (who according to the script are to smart for their age) . This was one of the reasons why episode one was such a poor movie and they're doing a rinse and repeat here again.
I just completed Boba Fett and it was definitely of CW quality in parts.
no offense to jake lloyd, but lil leia does circles around him acting wise
Nah. They're both bad. Her screen time is cringy all the way through.
I mean if someone was a teen when TFA first released, they'd be a young adult by now.
I thought young leia was fine. The only problem i had with her was when she started asking obi to use the force to make her float even though they were trying to escape her kidnappers. That and running away because Obi had a bounty on him came across as pretty forced.
Yeah I've started to avoid them - especially the MCU show threads. My opinion always diverges with people on era. Like people in here calling the D+ shows cheap, couldn't disagree more
I really like the show, but like Boba Fett it feels poorly paced and plotted at times (though hopefully not as bad). You'd think Lucasfilm would get the time /money to really get it right.
Also don't love the look of the show. Compared to the movies, tatooine looks very flat and dull, wonder if overuse of the volume has something to do with some of the aesthetic issues? Like someone said earlier in the thread, Andor looks much better.
Still quite like it though, stoked for Wednesday.
Also don't love the look of the show. Compared to the movies, tatooine looks very flat and dull, wonder if overuse of the volume has something to do with some of the aesthetic issues? Like someone said earlier in the thread, Andor looks much better.
Still quite like it though, stoked for Wednesday.
I'm honestly shocked at how negative it's been in here. Anecdotal evidence and all that, but my family, friends, and I all came away having greatly enjoyed these episodes. And it's not like we all blindly love anything Star Wars. We all have different levels of investment and likes/dislikes across the material.
Yeah Im surprised by the negative online reactions too. I thought this was good but not great. *shrug*
I really enjoyed it but both a few examples here and other places online I've had to be careful with the some of the reactions. They tend to piss me off, but thankfully I can just take a break and do something else...
It's been from some of the really outright racist and crude commentary on the character Reva (sadly I expected that), to some REALLY weird and overly aggressive attacks to a kid actor. That's a kid.... -_-
Like I remember way back when I was part of the NiGHTS community in 1998-2001 there would be people who constantly would make fun of the kids version of the credits song and I think nowadays I prefer that version just because it comes off so cute and fitting with the game. Just my view.
It's been from some of the really outright racist and crude commentary on the character Reva (sadly I expected that), to some REALLY weird and overly aggressive attacks to a kid actor. That's a kid.... -_-
Like I remember way back when I was part of the NiGHTS community in 1998-2001 there would be people who constantly would make fun of the kids version of the credits song and I think nowadays I prefer that version just because it comes off so cute and fitting with the game. Just my view.
That's not unexpected but still disappointing. I thought Reva's actress (and the acting in general) was fine. It was the writing that was crappy.
I...I actually thought kid Leia's actress did a great job.
Same. I think she did a wonderful job, she just straight up feels like kid Leia. She actually feels more Leia than the animated older versions we got in Rebels and Resistance.
How come Stranger Things can have all that gore and violence and language and sexual content and drug use with it's TV-14 rating, but Obi Wan Kenobi only gives us a chase, a kidnapping and someone losing a hand and it's also TV-14?
Is Stranger Things under-TV rated? Or is Obi Wan Kenobi over-TV rated for age?
Is Stranger Things under-TV rated? Or is Obi Wan Kenobi over-TV rated for age?
My only nit-pick about Leia is that she's supposed to be 10, but the actress looks maybe 6 or 7? She definitely didn't look like she would be the twin of the 10 year-old Luke we saw earlier.
Ah well, she's great in the role so I'll get over it XD
Ah well, she's great in the role so I'll get over it XD
Does the rating involve just the given episode or the whole series?
I'd imagine the hanging Jedi with slash marks on him, Order 66 scene, guy going into a lightsaber blender, the impaling, and the drug references prevented it from being just PG?
Obi-Wan did leave Tattoine in the old EU and didn't involve Luke or Leia though.
I'm not surprised sadly, specially how this fanbase treated Jake Lloyd after TPM.
Actually, I'm not sure if it whole-season-based or Episode-to-Episode?
Some quick Wikipedia-ing says it's episode to episode? Given that I bet it's the drug stuff in episode two and the hanging Jedi/Order 66 scenes in episode one that pushed it over.
i went to the star wars night at angels stadium on friday
people LOVE Star Wars
like love love star wars
Also just to go back to this for a moment, those are the exact people who hate on this the most.
The ones so obsessed by "lore," by "continuity," and just absolutely cream themselves when Ahsoka shows up. Squeal in delight when CGI Luke shows up to save the day.
They're not the ones coming out in support of this stuff. They're the ones most vocal about how they think it's shit until they're spoon-fed a helping of fan service. Then it's just yum yum.
She's pretty great as an actor. It's just a shame that she's not well served by being in action sequences. At least, how the sequences we're shot, anyway.
People say this, but honestly, if the goal was to just create fanservice and not try to think of interesting stories to tell, they could be saving themselves a lot of work. Boba Fett is a perfect example of this. Whether you thought the show worked or not, it was trying to tell a story of that character being reborn into someone new. Was "adopted by Tuskens and fashioning himself into a benevolent godfather type" on anyone's Boba Fett bingo card? Pretty sure everyone figured that a Boba Fett series would be about him bounty hunting and kicking ass. I personally think the show is less than the sum of its parts, but at the very least you can't say they took the obvious route to making a story.
lol, yes, the ones who film themselves crying about Luke are the same people who are making videos about the Kennedy vs. Favreau/Filoni civil war in Lucasfilm (complete with red-glowing-eyes Kennedy thumbnails).
It is kinda funny that Ewan got everybody excited for the show.
Like for years the idea of bringing Obi-wan back was this big pull. Ask just about any star wars fan and they would agree.
That's my boy Ewan, he'd never do us wrong. Well except the three movies we all sorta hate.
*tunes in to Obi-wan and the winter soldier*
Like for years the idea of bringing Obi-wan back was this big pull. Ask just about any star wars fan and they would agree.
That's my boy Ewan, he'd never do us wrong. Well except the three movies we all sorta hate.
*tunes in to Obi-wan and the winter soldier*
What?It is kinda funny that Ewan got everybody excited for the show.
Like for years the idea of bringing Obi-wan back was this big pull. Ask just about any star wars fan and they would agree.
That's my boy Ewan, he'd never do us wrong. Well except the three movies we all sorta hate.
*tunes in to Obi-wan and the winter soldier*
Yeah she was 9, they filmed last year. Worry no more lol.
I just finished watching the 2 available episodes and kinda surprised about the negative reactions here.
It was fine. I'll tune in for the rest.
The kid playing Leia is also fine, I thought she did a good job.
This feels more of an extension of the prequels, which is exactly what I was expecting.
I will say I have no attachment to the leader Inquisitor character, I haven't watched the animated series, so I can't comment on how he was handled. He didn't do much.
It was fine. I'll tune in for the rest.
The kid playing Leia is also fine, I thought she did a good job.
This feels more of an extension of the prequels, which is exactly what I was expecting.
I will say I have no attachment to the leader Inquisitor character, I haven't watched the animated series, so I can't comment on how he was handled. He didn't do much.
8 when they started filming.
Regardless though she's one of the highlights of the show so far. I like her spunk and the energy she's bringing to the material.
He was handled fine, his demeanor in Rebels is extremely similar.
I just wish he wasn't written out so soon
Good lord this is shit. Expensive looking shit. Annoying kid, stupid sith parkour, bad dialogue, that rooftop scene was disjointed as fuck. Mandalorian is the only decent thing from Disney+.
Just saw the 2 episodes in tandem:
*Alderaan was just ok? Somehow, the perspective of the skyscrapers didn't communicate its size properly.
*Bail Organa was good, but think he hammed it up a tad more than needed, early on.
*Surprised on how much I liked the Leia's actress. Her voice and inflections do remind me of the adult version.
*Really liked the concept of making her wise for her age, and being able to look past the exterior.
Unfortunately, a portion of her dialogue and scene writing was bad (and so the 'persecution' scenes)
-No regular kid (nevermind a smart one) would insist on keep referring to Obi as "Jedi" in the open, knowing their past and their situation.
-At that age, a kid would actually made a strong point for both of them to cover their faces with masks/costumes, and stay away from multitudes.
-While I'm sort of ok of her having doubts about Obi Wan, any kid in serious danger would be both more distressed, and trying to either genuinely hide or
get help from the public by showing herself to the "authorities".
*The Third sister actress is also fine. Her intensity was portrayed ok, but the dialogue is pretty basic and thus didn't help to add gravitas.
Guess she will become at least partially good by the end. Didn't mind the descending parkour, but that back jump when she was crossing the beam was ridiculous and unnecessary.
*The Gran Inquisitor's clothing looked clunky and weightless. He didn't move with grace, royalty or in a menacing way.
Liked his accent, but his reactions and dialogue makes him feel farcical and not in control.
*Expected Obi to live even farther. Also, weird he has a day job that involves traveling.
He is leaving Luke pretty much defenseless for half a day, during day.
*Odd he didn't get worried the Clone would recognize him. He was in the Jedi Council, meaning he was a famous military figure.
And for all he knows, they all still have the prerogative to hunt him down.
All in all, these 2 episodes didn't left a strong impression, other than Leia.
*Alderaan was just ok? Somehow, the perspective of the skyscrapers didn't communicate its size properly.
*Bail Organa was good, but think he hammed it up a tad more than needed, early on.
*Surprised on how much I liked the Leia's actress. Her voice and inflections do remind me of the adult version.
*Really liked the concept of making her wise for her age, and being able to look past the exterior.
Unfortunately, a portion of her dialogue and scene writing was bad (and so the 'persecution' scenes)
-No regular kid (nevermind a smart one) would insist on keep referring to Obi as "Jedi" in the open, knowing their past and their situation.
-At that age, a kid would actually made a strong point for both of them to cover their faces with masks/costumes, and stay away from multitudes.
-While I'm sort of ok of her having doubts about Obi Wan, any kid in serious danger would be both more distressed, and trying to either genuinely hide or
get help from the public by showing herself to the "authorities".
*The Third sister actress is also fine. Her intensity was portrayed ok, but the dialogue is pretty basic and thus didn't help to add gravitas.
Guess she will become at least partially good by the end. Didn't mind the descending parkour, but that back jump when she was crossing the beam was ridiculous and unnecessary.
*The Gran Inquisitor's clothing looked clunky and weightless. He didn't move with grace, royalty or in a menacing way.
Liked his accent, but his reactions and dialogue makes him feel farcical and not in control.
*Expected Obi to live even farther. Also, weird he has a day job that involves traveling.
He is leaving Luke pretty much defenseless for half a day, during day.
*Odd he didn't get worried the Clone would recognize him. He was in the Jedi Council, meaning he was a famous military figure.
And for all he knows, they all still have the prerogative to hunt him down.
All in all, these 2 episodes didn't left a strong impression, other than Leia.
(Preface by saying I LOVED the 2 eps)
this is made even worse because it looked like the clone was wearing 501st armor, which means he would've been serving under anakin himself.