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excelsiorlef

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Oct 25, 2017
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Alicia Hobson's 11-year-old daughter, Azlyn, was counting down the days until the Valentine's Day dance at her Utah middle school.

"She was so excited she could barely sleep," Hobson told TODAY Parents, noting that the sixth grader picked out her outfit a week ahead of time.


"It was supposed to be the best day ever," Hobson, 37, said.

But it wasn't.

That afternoon, when Azlyn got home, she had an "emotional explosion" in the kitchen, while recounting how a boy who makes her uncomfortable had asked her to dance.

"She politely said, 'No thank you,'" Hobson revealed. The problem? At Rich Middle School in Laketown, Utah, it's against the rules to say "no," and principal Kip Motta allegedly intervened when he heard Azlyn decline the invitation at the dance.

"He said something like, 'No, no. You kids go out and dance,'" Hobson revealed. "He basically shooed Azlyn and the boy off onto the dance floor."


Azlyn told her mother she "hated every minute" and was "so relieved" when the song finally ended.

Motta and Rich School District Superintendent Dale Lamborn did not immediately respond to emails seeking comment. But Motta stood by the school's policy in a letter to Hobson.

"We do ask all students to dance. It is the nice thing to do and this will continue to be our policy," Motta wrote on Feb. 15. "There have been similar situations in the past where some students have felt uncomfortable with others, and, as stated prior, the issues were discreetly handled. This allowed all students to feel welcome, comfortable, safe, and included."

Motta added that Hobson always has the option to check Azlyn out of school during dances, which are held in the daytime.



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School policy forbids kids from saying 'no' when asked to dance

One mom is fighting back on behalf of her 11-year-old daughter.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,432
Maybe the school just shouldnt do dances for 11 year olds during the school day.

Or is 11 the right age to make the unpopular kids very very aware of that fact in a public and embarrassing way? Ya gotta assume the impetus was to keep kids from being crushed having everyone say no. Dumb "solution" though, that's for sure.
 

Kcannon

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Oct 30, 2017
5,661
Next time say "negative" or "never".

Or maybe run away or ignore the person.

I dunno. There has to be a loophole.
 

takriel

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Oct 25, 2017
10,221
They are only preparing these girls for the inevitable future, we should thank them!

/s
 

Bigwombat

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Nov 30, 2018
3,416
That's a weird and inappropriate policy. I get the spirit behind it but that should never be enforced. Totally tone deaf written policy
 

Musubi

Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth
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Oct 25, 2017
23,611
Great instead of teaching boys about consent they are just teaching them that they can have whatever they want if they just take it. Great lesson your teaching them. 🤮🤮
 

dennett316

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Nov 2, 2017
2,981
Blackpool, UK
I sort of get what they think they're trying to do - ensure a kid doesn't get humiliated by having people reject them - but it's completely unworkable and open to cause even more humiliation. A bully asks their victim to dance and the victim can't say no? Come on now school board/principal/whoever made this call, think this shit through, it's so open to abuse. Disregarding one person's in favour of another is just ridiculous, especially when it comes to things like dancing, effectively forcing them into contact with someone they don't want to be around. That's fucked up.
 

Lebron

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Oct 30, 2017
3,576
Yeahhh, this policy isn't going to last for them now that it's getting reported on.

Idiots
 

Hyun Sai

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Oct 27, 2017
14,562
How in the hell the morons didn't see how fucked up this is and how bad this would look ?
 

Lord Fagan

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Oct 27, 2017
2,367
I remember school dances, A. had parental chaperones in addition to faculty/admin, and B. didn't actually start until middle school.

I feel both old and like I went to public school on a different planet.

11?

Fucking seriously?
 

Kyrios

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Oct 27, 2017
14,622
Complete lack of consent is what every developing young boy needs in today's society /s
 

rude

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Oct 25, 2017
12,812
Now if a boy asked another boy to dance, they would've shut that down with the quickness
 

Mirage

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Oct 25, 2017
9,561
This kind of thing sets a terrible precedent for consent. Kids should absolutely be able to say no to something like that.
 

CDX

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Oct 25, 2017
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We have been through this before

www.resetera.com

Kids at one Utah Elementary must say yes if another kid asks to dance

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nation-world/national/article199747849.html#fmp As a parent there is no way that this would be okay. It’s like they took inclusiveness to a whole other level [Mod edit: title changed for accuracy, original title (grabbed from link) was: "Girls at one Utah...
I thought this was a bump of the old thread. Is that school STILL doing this?

Kanesville Elementary dance in West Haven, Utah

At Rich Middle School in Laketown, Utah

wait... MULTIPLE SCHOOLS IN UTAH have this same stupid school dance policy?
 

MIMIC

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Dec 18, 2017
8,319
We have been through this before

www.resetera.com

Kids at one Utah Elementary must say yes if another kid asks to dance

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nation-world/national/article199747849.html#fmp As a parent there is no way that this would be okay. It’s like they took inclusiveness to a whole other level [Mod edit: title changed for accuracy, original title (grabbed from link) was: "Girls at one Utah...

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Yeah, I thought this sounded familiar....
 

JLP101

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Oct 25, 2017
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Its amazing how wrong school policy can get when teaching children life lessons.
 

Wackamole

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Oct 27, 2017
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We have been through this before

www.resetera.com

Kids at one Utah Elementary must say yes if another kid asks to dance

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nation-world/national/article199747849.html#fmp As a parent there is no way that this would be okay. It’s like they took inclusiveness to a whole other level [Mod edit: title changed for accuracy, original title (grabbed from link) was: "Girls at one Utah...

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I was just thinking that i've heard this before.
 

Bing-Bong

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Feb 1, 2019
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What's wrong with them to force kids to do stuff? My 11 year old self would have started screaming in a similar situation... This is so wrong...
 

WhySoDevious

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Oct 31, 2017
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Probably from the same adults that think that a grown man asking children sexual questions behind closed doors is okay.
 

Hollywood Duo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dan Thunder

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Nov 2, 2017
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I'm assuming this obviously applies if the roles are reversed but in this day and age what a stupid message to send to boys. You should get what you ask for and if a girl turns you down get a big white guy to force her to do what you want no matter how uncomfortable it makes her feel.
 

SageShinigami

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Oct 27, 2017
30,462
I see what they're doing here, but...no. No, it's dumb. Because see, when you get out into the real world you're going to get rejected. A lot. So you might as well get used to it young.
 

BAD

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Oct 25, 2017
9,565
USA
So some cyber bully or asshole harasser can make anyone dance and the teacher will side with them if they don't know what's happening amongst the kids
 

fontguy

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Oct 8, 2018
16,152
"It is the nice thing to do."

I don't know what exactly it is about this that pisses me off so much, but it pisses me off so much.
 

grand

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Oct 25, 2017
24,900
What is it with Utah Schools making little girls dance against their will:

www.resetera.com

Kids at one Utah Elementary must say yes if another kid asks to dance

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nation-world/national/article199747849.html#fmp As a parent there is no way that this would be okay. It’s like they took inclusiveness to a whole other level [Mod edit: title changed for accuracy, original title (grabbed from link) was: "Girls at one Utah...
 

DPT120

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Oct 27, 2017
12,525
We have been through this before

www.resetera.com

Kids at one Utah Elementary must say yes if another kid asks to dance

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nation-world/national/article199747849.html#fmp As a parent there is no way that this would be okay. It’s like they took inclusiveness to a whole other level [Mod edit: title changed for accuracy, original title (grabbed from link) was: "Girls at one Utah...

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I thought the headline seemed familiar.