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Executives at The New York Times scrambled on Thursday to address the concerns of employees and readers who were angered by the newspaper's publication of an opinion essay by a United States senator calling for the federal government to send the military to suppress protests against police violence in American cities.

Near the end of the day, James Bennet, the editor in charge of the opinion section, said in a meeting with staff members that he had not read the essay before it was published. Shortly afterward, The Times issued a statement saying the essay fell short of the newspaper's standards.

"We've examined the piece and the process leading up to its publication," Eileen Murphy, a Times spokeswoman, said in a statement. "This review made clear that a rushed editorial process led to the publication of an Op-Ed that did not meet our standards. As a result, we're planning to examine both short-term and long-term changes, to include expanding our fact-checking operation and reducing the number of Op-Eds we publish."

The Op-Ed, posted on the Times website Wednesday, carried the headline "Send In the Troops." It was written by Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas. "One thing above all else will restore order to our streets: an overwhelming show of force to disperse, detain and ultimately deter lawbreakers," the senator wrote.

www.nytimes.com

New York Times Says Senator’s Op-Ed Did Not Meet Standards (Published 2020)

After a staff uproar, The Times says the editing process was “rushed.” Senator Tom Cotton’s “Send In the Troops” essay is now under review.
 
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Dyle

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You can't just say "didn't read lol" and keep your job
 

DiipuSurotu

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And people in the other thread were saying it was perfectly normal for NYT to publish such an op-ed...
 

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LewieP

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Then fucking resign.

"Whoops under my watch we advocated for using the military against our readers lol" doesn't really cut it.
 

Royalan

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I'm tired of upholding the NYT's reputation as the paper of record when their own editors won't.

I've been unsubscribed, and now I'll encourage everyone I know to do the same.
 
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I do find it very amusing that NYT's teams are so separated that the news section can run an investigative piece on the Op-Ed management.

Op Ed management needs to be fired. Fucking christ.
 

Pikelet

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They're saying a rushed editorial process led to the publishing of an article without it having being vetted by the editor, but anyone with common sense would literally just need to read the headline of the op-ed to determine that it was fascist garbage that's unfit for print.
 

jph139

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In general I don't like calling for people to be fired or whatever, but like, dude, this is literally your only job. How is "whoops didn't actually read it!" your defense here?
 

Squarehard

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An editor who doesn't even read pieces submitted to them.

He's definitely earning every penny of his salary.
 

Viewt

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God my hope is that all of this blowback will lead to less of people like Brett fucking Stephens writing for the NYT. His writing makes me physically gag.
 

M.Bluth

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The NYT's just trash in every regard, but their OPED section is by far the worst. Everyone on that section should lose their jobs, not just this idiot.
 

Kernel

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I hope they lost subscribers galore over this shit.

They were so busy ballwashing Tom Cotton and the GOP they didn't even read it?

Or maybe he did read it and that's his excuse for not having to defend it.
 

ShutterMunster

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I would be toast if my team shipped fucked up assets and when leadership came to ask me about it my response was "I didn't review them."

Toast.
 

Moppeh

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Oops! Don't you guys just hate it when you do a fascism without even noticing?
 

JCizzle

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They clearly learned a lot from the "This Clears Trump!" shit that they ran pre election. Fuuuuck them.
 

EdibleKnife

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They should have shredded anything coming out of the mouths of known bigoted sycophants to start with. They should be so hardline that Cotton wouldn't have even mailed it in because he'd know I'd be a waste of time. But he did have the gall to send it in because he knows NYT is so slavishly devoted to the "both sides" bullshit they think makes them neutral and unbiased.
 

WedgeX

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So who did read it and allow it?

He should resign. So should whoever solicited or allowed it.

They should probably start fresh from the top down with their opinion side.
 

Shroki

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1) He DID read it. Of course he fucking read it. He just couldn't figure another way to deflect from the idea that he tacitly endorsed it.

2) In a world where he did not read it, which again - isn't this one, he neglected to do like the one thing he's hired to do and should be replaced by someone who could do that job.

He should be replaced anyway mind you.
 

Pikelet

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For those asking why he would admit to not doing his job, consider the alternative...

Called out over this bullshit, do you:

a) Admit that you read this shit it and gave it the thumbs up
or
b) Say "woopsy daisy", and pretend that you didn't read it
 

ibyea

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The editor of the newspaper did not read the article they were publishing... Either it's bullshit or he neglected his duty. Either way, fire the guy, he is not fit to be an editor.
 

AaronD

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So he chose to be known as a complete moron instead of terrible at his job... but also terrible at his job? Odd choice.

PS Wow he's fucking terrible at his job.
 

fontguy

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"Aw shucks, my bad. :( Anyway, here's a white supremacist on why reinstating Jim Crow would be ennobling for minorities..."
 

Dalek

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1) He DID read it. Of course he fucking read it. He just couldn't figure another way to deflect from the idea that he tacitly endorsed it.

2) In a world where he did not read it, which again - isn't this one, he neglected to do like the one thing he's hired to do and should be replaced by someone who could do that job.

He should be replaced anyway mind you.

Of course he read it. Guaranteed.
 

GameAddict411

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Fuck you James Bennet. I really hope he gets fired, but more importantly learn how it's like to be endangered. When I read the essay yesterday I was so angry. And then this fucking man goes on twitter making up excuses about both sides. Like are you fucking kidding. Again fuck you James Bennet.