I was responding to the demands of the protestors:
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[NYT] Hours After Biden Inauguration, Federal Agents Use Tear Gas in Portland
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I was responding to the demands of the protestors:
I live right by where this happened, these people are idiots.
edit; specifically the group that broke windows at DP headquarters.
edit; specifically the group that broke windows at DP headquarters.
I mean that's cool. It sounded like they were trying to fight for no presidents, no police, no borders, etc. Sounded like anarchy? If it's not then my bad.
That's different than what you said earlier. Earlier you were implying just destroying things was Anarchy.
We had some in Seattle as well last night
Three arrested during destructive demonstration in Seattle (kiro7.com)
I loath our anarchist. I agree with there anti-ice polices but all they do is smash Starbucks. I'm guessing they're Tully's people?
Three arrested during destructive demonstration in Seattle (kiro7.com)
I loath our anarchist. I agree with there anti-ice polices but all they do is smash Starbucks. I'm guessing they're Tully's people?
yeahhhh, can we kill the conspiracy theories, please? It's about as silly as Trump supporters blaming "Antifa" for the capital breach.
Reading the article, there were multiple protests. Taking all of them separately, as opposed to conflating them all together, I think they're all legit.
Anarchists are the worst, the vulnerable and poor will be the first hurt by failing of government. Every person I have met who agrees with this ideology are well off white people.
I'm not against protesting as a way of course, but it's very unclear from the article what this group actually wanted or what they expected Biden to do in the few hours he had been president.
Nah, I was responding to the thread topic which included quoted statement of "no cops, no borders, no presidents." which sounded like anarchy to me (if it's not the definition of anarchy then apologies for that confusion). I was not implying that JUST destroying things was anarchy, but that that seems like what these folks are doing out there.
Can't be fixed with the snap of the fingers. Biden doesn't even have a cabinet yet. And he already did make some important moves on that front.
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Yes, the protests are going to continue. Abolishing prisons and police and dismantling the imperial state are just as much of a priority today as it was last week, last month, or last year.
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I mean we had someone on ERA asking if the Detention Camps were shut down yet, I think some folks thinks everything can happen in 24 hours.
The fear of accelerationists on the internet is probably greater than the existence of actual practicing accelerationists. But here is a quick example of the difference between "accelerationism" and "Anarchism" as is commonly understood by Anarchists/Anarcho-adjacent. Then further complicating this is our vernacular usage of "anarchy" as a stand in for "anything outside law and order".
en.wikipedia.org
And a historical example of mutual aid networks in action: https://www.solid-ground.org/the-radical-history-of-the-free-breakfast-program/
Mutual aid (organization theory) - Wikipedia
And a historical example of mutual aid networks in action: https://www.solid-ground.org/the-radical-history-of-the-free-breakfast-program/
Damn its only been a day, and the libs have already gone back to clutching pearls over protests lol.
Agreed.
I worry that it'll continue and we'll never actually see real reform. I know Biden and his administration can't snap their fingers to change everything but I need to see real change.
OR will ways be a hotbed of racial injustice and protests. The state was founded as a haven for white supremacy lol
I hope no one actually thought the social unrest of mid 2020 was just going to vanish the minute Biden was sworn in. That kind of stuff has its own momentum and they will continue and probably escalate until their original demands are met.
They were never going to go "let's give Biden 100 days and then reconvene in April".
They were never going to go "let's give Biden 100 days and then reconvene in April".
Isn't Biden's proposed immigration policy among the most progressive we've seen in ages? Maybe ever?
Literally the day after Trump leaves office... as if the goals of the left somehow began and ended with the election of Joe Biden to the presidency and there is no need for further direct action...
ICE still fucking sucks, even under Biden, and the Portland Police are the fucking worst.
It's a whiplash, for sure.
I think Reagan did some aggressive amnesty stuff, but yeah it's up there.
Smashing dem party headquarters is stupid =/= looking down on protests
User Banned (1 month): Inappropriate joke concerning violence
*waves*
For those of you who don't know this yet:
THE PORTLAND POLICE BUREAU FUCKING SUCKS.
Thinking this would magically stop when Biden has been elected shows a lack of knowledge of political activity in the PNW.
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Lots of good stuff, Green Cards for DACA and TPS, path to citizenship for 11 million undocumented immigrants etc. Focus on the underlying causes of the immigration (Central America) etc
The vast majority of liberals and democratic voters have never been fans of the anarchist wing of the left.
That was my impression as well.
Then again, I'll never understand the fear of immigrants in a nation that was literally founded by immigrants. I've always taken it as a point of pride that people want to come here for a better life.
Because it does nothing to advance or advocate for the stated causes and is a particularly bad idea in the wake of a large, unprecedented event of political unrest.
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Its the color of their skin, man. We are a racist country.
Protecting the vulnerable and the poor is necessary for social transformation, but that necessity is because current governments and social systems have already made them vulnerable and poor.
Well what is it that these folks want? Based on the thread it sounded like they are losing sight of whatever they initially were fighting for, are fighting for "no cops, no borders, no presidents", and are out there rioting at the dem party HQ. Just sounded like anarchy to me, but again it seems I'm wrong about that definition so...sorry? It just seems like this is becoming a different fight than what the BLM protest was and is.
Biden just set a task force for this. Do they want Biden to personally fly and find every parent?
damn, they smashed windows? totally invalidates their disdain for ICE and american empire and justifies the use of tear gas and pepper balls, thank you
