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NYT: Biden says about 10 to 15 percent of Americans are not very good people
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I think a key element is that 10% is low enough that anyone who might fall into that category can easily convince themselves that he's talking about some non-specific other awful person. Part of how deplorables took off - and it wasn't from what Hillary said, just in terms of how it was twisted by the framing - is that it was presented as "She's calling you a monster".
Of course, the unsaid bit is "And there's about 25% more who are really shitty"
Get people you know out to vote so that the comment is meaningless. Take a vacation day And help organize to drive people to the polls.
And with everything going on, with the garbage that we have seen the last four years and the current progress being made by protestors, if people aren't going to vote again because of the mildest of takes, they either weren't going to anyway or they are on the other side and pretending they're not.
And with everything going on, with the garbage that we have seen the last four years and the current progress being made by protestors, if people aren't going to vote again because of the mildest of takes, they either weren't going to anyway or they are on the other side and pretending they're not.
And he also didn't name any specific base. I think everyone in America thinks at least 10-15% of the population are "bad people". Who those "bad people" are changes depending on your politics.
Probably shouldn't have said it but honestly who's really offended here? Trumpers and deplorables? They don't matter here anyway.
The only way this becomes an issue is if he walks it back like Hillary did. The lack of conviction hurt her with her own voters. The deplorables were never voting for her anyway.
oh yes, "probably 10-15% of the people out there are not very good, but the vast majority are decent and we have to unite people and bring them together" is just like Mitt Romney saying 47% of the population will never support him because they want government handouts and Hillary saying half of Trump's supporters were "deplorables". Don't fall for this nonsense, lol.
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This board does the whole gnashing of teeth routine for the stupidest shit. He's not going to get in trouble for saying 85% of the country are good people. It's already off the front page of the NYT. Have some perspective. What, are the deplorables going to change their Twitter handles to say "10-15%"?
Biden's a man, he's known for being folksy and gaffey, there's a pandemic and mass social unrest going on. No one cares. He doesn't even say who the bad people are. It's a cipher-style comment that lets people read into it whatever they want.
Biden's a man, he's known for being folksy and gaffey, there's a pandemic and mass social unrest going on. No one cares. He doesn't even say who the bad people are. It's a cipher-style comment that lets people read into it whatever they want.
The trap Hillary fell into was apologizing. She wasn't getting votes from deplorables before she made that statement. Do you seriously believe she would've going to get such votes beforehand?
You obviously haven't read this thread. In this group 35% is the average.
Besides, to believe every other person is terrible is just mental. If you thought that poorly of humanity I don't even know why you bother interacting with us if you think the amount of terrible people is 50%.
I believed they had best intentions till the last week. I'd say a much more sizable number are irreversibly evil.
Yes he is, it's closer to 30%!
I mean really look at Trumps approval numbers, I mean: What do you call those people that support him through all of this? Very Nasty people.
And most of them are above 40%! So 30% is a conservative estimate of Nasty People Percentage.
The US her NPP is at least 35% I'd recon.
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I didn't even know what that quote "harkens back to..." was from, but as soon as I read it I thought is sounded like somthing the NYT would write. Here we go again.
Good thing Biden doesn't have any buttery emails for them to screech about.
Also, Biden is being way too kind.
Won't have the same play as the deplorables comment, too specific, youd basically have to be racist, sexist and a criminal to think: "hang on a minute!"
Don't get cocky Biden you're still an ass, just not anywhere near as big of an ass as President asshole.
With that said it's way higher of a percentage, closer to 30% easy.
With that said it's way higher of a percentage, closer to 30% easy.
Gotta get those clicks.
Everything is going to be used against him from the other side. He has a shotgun mouth. Just don't worry about every thing that comes out, or you'll be having a heart attack every day.
That said, I wish he'd stop and think. He may get away with this because of privilege.
Everything is going to be used against him from the other side. He has a shotgun mouth. Just don't worry about every thing that comes out, or you'll be having a heart attack every day.
That said, I wish he'd stop and think. He may get away with this because of privilege.
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This is like a really watered down version of what Hillary said because it is a lower percentage than she described, doesn't target just Trump voters, and "not very good people" doesn't fit on a t-shirt like deplorables. Plus, people are more likely to agree with the statement after Minneapolis, and he has more leniency as a white male. But that's the downside of Biden, the foot in mouth syndrome. Hopefully his remaining gaffes are not too harmful like this one.
I thought it was pretty clear that people just did not like Hillary. When Biden told that automaker who asked about the guns to 'shove it', the narrative was that people liked Joe pushing back like that.
If Hillary would have done the same, it would have been a different reaction.
Biden is literally being handed the election on a plate and he can't stop putting his foot in his mouth. Jesus Christ.
I don't know how this helps in any possible way. You're becoming president of all people, it's like a forceful act of polarization and that's the last thing America needs when depolarization is like one of three things that is necessary to save this state moving forward. For what, brownie points for narrow-minded Liberals to stoke their hatred for conservatives? After all these decades of polarization, and seeing what happens when people start to believe their opponents are inherently bad, who in their right mind with any basic understanding of what usually transpires when this happens thinks even holding this view is helpful to anyone?
He has the chance, even as a relatively moderate candidate, to swing people back to the left at an INCREDIBLE moment of vulnerability that American citizens are experiencing, and he's stoking the flames. Absolute insanity and a pretty dehumanizing approach that is not only unnecessary but counterintuitive to progressivism.
I don't know how this helps in any possible way. You're becoming president of all people, it's like a forceful act of polarization and that's the last thing America needs when depolarization is like one of three things that is necessary to save this state moving forward. For what, brownie points for narrow-minded Liberals to stoke their hatred for conservatives? After all these decades of polarization, and seeing what happens when people start to believe their opponents are inherently bad, who in their right mind with any basic understanding of what usually transpires when this happens thinks even holding this view is helpful to anyone?
He has the chance, even as a relatively moderate candidate, to swing people back to the left at an INCREDIBLE moment of vulnerability that American citizens are experiencing, and he's stoking the flames. Absolute insanity and a pretty dehumanizing approach that is not only unnecessary but counterintuitive to progressivism.
Why is this a dumb thing to say? No matter what side of the party you are on, you agree with this right? So the dumb fuck GOP people will nod their head vigurously and say "hes right, those damn leftist, Soros paid yahoos are not good people" whilst everyone else knows we are talking about them. Im done with treading the middle ground and pandering to both sides. Fuck the GOP and their evil supporters. They were never coming onboard anyway, lets make it about who is there more of, assholes or good guys. The good guys need to be encouraged to go to the polls.
Hillary was obviously naming Trump supporters and Republican voters in general specifically with her comments. That's the reason people got upset and even started proudly calling themselves "deplorable". This Biden quote isn't targeted at a specific political inclination and is actually being used to argue that the vast majority of Americans are decent people. It's not a controversial statement in the slightest and if you believe it is, it's probably because it fits your agenda.
Guys, I'm voting for him and want him to win. But man does he say some nonsensical stuff sometimes.
Good is all relative. Just say what you mean, Biden. If you're saying that 10 to 15% of people are racist, that's probably low balling it.
Good is all relative. Just say what you mean, Biden. If you're saying that 10 to 15% of people are racist, that's probably low balling it.
This shouldn't be a news headline. Trump literally says that Democrats are vermin scum of the earth and it's just another day in trumpville.