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NYT: As Great Salt Lake dries up, Utah faces "Environmental Nuclear Bomb."
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Us alongside countless other species in the ecosystem we're taking down with us when we self-destruct.
Sure but filling it with salt water instead of fresh would cause its salinity to get even higher over time as it evaporates
I suppose that doesnt matter much but maybe someone smarter than me can tell me what that would mean
Thank you :) Was surprised the username wasn't taken when I signed up
It would be a lot better to just buy out farm land in California and Arizona that is used for exports and decrease water usage or use the ground water that was meant to be a back up water source for the Colorado River to refill the reservoirs we already have.
The Great Salt Lake is up to 27% saline in some parts. Seawater is like 3.5%.
Seawater would dilute the salinity of the Great Salt Lake, not make it more saline.
It's gonna be a huge mess. Unless CA can kill agricultural use within the next few years there's going to be a mass migration. The rot of decaying large swaths of cities creates a domino effect like it did in the rust belt. Then you're dealing with 2 catastrophic issues. People won't want to live there.
Hopefully. The rate of climate change in unprecedented. Normal climate change happened within the course of tens of thousands of years. Human induced climate change happened in decades.
That said, life on this planet is resilient. As long as we die off and something manages to cling on, life will continue on.
Good luck getting that land out of the hands of the Reznicks
Thanks I am not sure why I am not wrapping my head around this
Being SLC, their biggest effort to combat this will be to pray harder.
If only God would warn them about this catastropheā¦
If only God would warn them about this catastropheā¦
Nah. Not with Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Minnesota around.
People can just wear face masks. Surely nobody will have a problem with that.
Off-topic, but I just woke up from a five year coma; anyone have suggestions of what movies I should watch first?
Is this close enough?
Rescue Great Salt Lake with seawater from the Pacific? Utah lawmakers consider it
Utah lawmakers are giving serious thought to building a pipeline to the Pacific to move seawater to the shrinking Great Salt Lake.www.sltrib.com
Lol, yes. I wasn't even joking. Well, I was joking about using nukes to create the inlet, but yeah.
Just buy gas masks and oxygen tanks, problem solved and a couple of new millionaires will arise, win/win!
Mormons don't celebrate ignorance as much as Evangelicals do, especially rich Mormons. There are a lot more rich Mormons than you might expect, they'll do more than pray about it.
Colorado doesn't have a bright future either.
"The lead author of the study said Colorado will experience a 50% to 60% reduction in snow by 2080."
"We're not saying Colorado is going to become a desert. But we see increased aridity moving forward," said hydrologist Katrina Bennett at the federal government's Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico.
Colorado will lose half its snow by 2080 and look more like Arizona, federal scientists conclude
Parts of Colorado, Wyoming and Utah are drying out due to climate-driven changes in stream flows, and these states will shift to become more like the most arid states of the Southwest.www.thedenverchannel.com
Significantly less snow pack = less water. Ouch
I imagine when it reaches that point it will be a quick road to similar toxic clouds.
Just passing by that place gives off eerie vibes.This happened once before...on a smaller scale in "The Salton Sea" in california.
The solution?
complete and utter desolation
Bombay Beach is literally one of the creepiest places I've ever been to.
It was a resort town in the 50's 60's and 70's and now it's a salt rotted ghost town.
There's a bunch of hipsters/artists living there that are trying to "revive" the town, but it's like painting a fucking skeleton.
That's why I said 'future proof.' I'm in Chicagoland now but really want to move to eastern TN, western NC or north GA in the next year or so.
I keep hearing that Michigan will be the place to be. Their natural disaster of choice atm seems to be flooding instead of hurricanes wildfire or drought, so yay?
High elevation places on the east coast seem like a good idea. So probably most places along the Appalachian mountain range I suppose.
Water scarcity will be a widespread problem, however the great lakes area is safe and the amount of effort east of I-35 to build reservoirs that replenish reliably is much lower. Rainfall around I-35 is 35 inches per year and rapidly increases as you reach east Texas and is high until the Atlantic.
Texas is uses underground aquifers to get by and will have similar but much more practically resolved by building 3x more lakes.
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Clearly I've missed something as the person responding to is in Chicago. The toxic dust?
Look at all that new land for real estate. You basically get to sell lake front properties again and again every couple of years. /s1987:
2021:
Holy fuck that is depressing.
Yeah until those get drained for agriculture as well after the west dries out.
Pipe it in from the ocean and dump it into the lake.
For every other state, pipe it in from the ocean into a desalination plant, and then move it to where it's needed. Put the brine in evaporation tanks, filter that water out, and use the salts for whatever industry can use them.
For every other state, pipe it in from the ocean into a desalination plant, and then move it to where it's needed. Put the brine in evaporation tanks, filter that water out, and use the salts for whatever industry can use them.
That's not exactly true. The Virgin River pretty much runs quite close to St George.
The pipe issues are large. it would take a metric fuckton of money, serious term planning and half a dozen or more states working together. California can't even get its act together on desalination plants.
PNW, Great Lakes regions, NE.
Upper Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, upper Illinois, Michigan, Vermont, Maine are all solid.
I trend toward the Great Lake region due to fresh water reserves.
We used to have a functioning USDA/government where they could look at something like this and literally pay farmers not to grow crops. I think the program is still in effect but doesn't seem like it's being used aggressively enough.
Basically where people used to live before the 1960s
Much of the Southeast is probably fine too in the near term but it's going to get hot
Juts pulling it from the ocean should be able to do that; it's why I separated the paragraphs and made mention of every other state.
Well, Salton Sea too; no need to treat water for that.
The entire southwest trying to move would take a a shit ton of money too. Spend the money, make the plans, and work together. Build those desal plants along the coast, build some inland in the desert and in Nevada and Utah, move water to them, and then move the cleaned water to wherever.
Utahans, what the fuck are you guys on where you need 96 (NINTETY SIX) gallons of water PER DAY?
1987:
2021:
Holy fuck that is depressing.
Lex Luther: look at all that real estate!
The entire country couldn't even get their act together to deal with a global pandemic. I seriously doubt a bunch of red states start suddenly become concerned enough about climate change to spend the trillions needed to make these ideas come to fruition over decades of time. At best they'll just turn to the usual scapegoats to keep their base angry and distracted.
Dictatorship have their advantages if the dictator is enlightened. For instance, I would be a great world emperor if my fellow humans would let me, but apparently, I need to campaign and whatnot, and I don't want it that much, that's why I'm a good choice for it. I would be counting the days until I abdicate the throne.
I had to do a double-take on this. How on earth is 96 gallons per household per day even possible?
I believe they calculate the total usage and divide by the number of residents. So a farm's usage numbers are included as well as someone who lives alone and just takes a shower and flushes the toilet four times. This is all water used by residents and industry.
