I'm aware of the comments. But one would think that those comments would be understood, not excused, as coming from a mentally unwell person.
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NYPD on Twitter: "We regret to inform that Desmond Amofah aka Etika has been found deceased." (See guidelines before posting)
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dude is trash. hey mods? you ban people for calling out these shits, i'll do everything in my power to make sure media outlets recognize what a trash fucking job you do here. maybe you need to add some rules about mocking the mentally ill?
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Oh wow. Such "progressive" and good people! I these assholes doesn't get a ban of some kind this place is officially fucked up.
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And to echo others in here. People have been banned for FAR LESS.
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Jesus FUCK. I hope there are repercussions for this.
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Having a place to talk about mental health issues in general to edcuate others?
There is always going to be a media circus around news stories like this, but if any place should be somewhere to discuss a YouTube gamer who was suicidal and educate others on the matter, it should be a place like Era. Closing topics just shuts down discussion and looks bad.
Wow a mod said that? That's absolutely cruel. So letdown by this site turning the other way on Etika. There is a mob mentality that some have on here that is sickening.
I don't want to dogpile on people because that isn't the way to go about combating mental health but damn, people need to calm down with what they say. Even poster on poster interactions on here are cruel and cold hearted. It needs to stop.
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This not only makes my heart sink, but it also makes me angry knowing how people treated him. I couldn't even escape seeing that attitude on this very forum.
Of course he wanted attention. He needed attention. I've lost enough people in my life that went through years of this. Their cries for help turned into weapons against them.
I hope that those users on this very forum who dismissed and joked about his mental health issues feel good about themselves.
And I hope those users who claimed that we should ban discussion if this turned out to be a false flag feel good about themselves. Congratulations, he isn't banned on this forum, he did go through with it. Fucking hell.
Of course he wanted attention. He needed attention. I've lost enough people in my life that went through years of this. Their cries for help turned into weapons against them.
I hope that those users on this very forum who dismissed and joked about his mental health issues feel good about themselves.
And I hope those users who claimed that we should ban discussion if this turned out to be a false flag feel good about themselves. Congratulations, he isn't banned on this forum, he did go through with it. Fucking hell.
That tweet is a sign of mental illness. Openly talking in a public forum about how you're going to have a mental breakdown for the lulz is a sign of mental illness.
100%. Quoting so more people read this.
The sad fact of the matter is that there isn't much that could've been done if he did not express a desire to be helped. You can't force someone against their will to be admitted for an extended period of time. He even said in his last video that he wasn't willing to face the consequences of his actions (I may be paraphrasing a bit).
I understand that people are angry, but I don't think channeling that anger towards mods and the forum in general are helping any. What would happen if those threads stayed open? More people saying it was all fake?
It's a tragic situation, and a sad story all around. Hopefully it encourages people to seek help. May he Rest In Peace
Hardly. The threads before this one are worth a read. The ignorance is incredible.
RIP Etika. Saw a few of his Xenoblade 2 reactions and found it legitimately entertaining. Truly sad that he ended up down this road.
Like the people asking for members who were wrong about Etika to be perm'd?
They probably learned their lesson. I suspect their problem was one of emphasis: yes, mental health issues are brought up disingenuously all the time (e.g., "surely this white person isn't actually openly racist and is just going through an episode??"); no, people with mental health issues don't necessarily start behaving this or that way; yes, there's a need to hold irresponsible streamers accountable ... and yet, the #1 thing that mattered in this instance, as we all know very well now, was making sure Etika got the help he needed.
It would have been understandable to call out some of the things he did, to show apprehension, but the thing some people forgot was to fill in the most important part of those sentences: "...and I hope he gets whatever help he needs."
That's the thing: we have a framework for dealing with the bullshit that comes out of streamers and their fans. We have a framework for maneuvering around attempts to blame people's flaws on mental health issues. But that framework failed in this case, and the discussion very much needed to be supplemented by a much stronger framework for maneuvering around mental health.
This is one of those cases where, although some people had a significantly better approach than others, we collectively fucked up. Feel free to call out the individuals who especially fell short, but I don't think improving our community requires getting rid of them. We can all learn from this.
I understand some of the things he said were terrible and offensive. Those whom it affected have every right to be offended. Although I'd say the context matters in which something is said that should be taken into consideration, that didn't matter to some. All I ask is don't get in the way or condemn those who try to see past the action and instead the core of the problems.
Rip
Rip
RIP. He shouldn't have been released this soon, we need better systems to treat patients with severe Mental Health problems.
Also, I'll rather not comment on how some people here seems to be more busy pointing fingers than actually caring about the core of the matter, that is the deficience our system has to treat patients with mental health issues.
Also, I'll rather not comment on how some people here seems to be more busy pointing fingers than actually caring about the core of the matter, that is the deficience our system has to treat patients with mental health issues.
Was anyone warned for this at all? It seems very against the following
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Late last year, I was lucky enough to be eligible for free professional counseling through a non-profit in Montana. The state also picked up the bill for my stay in a crisis stabilization facility. It literally saved my life.
Now that I've moved, I have to shell out thousands of dollars a year for insurance that will cover MH services. I'm lucky I can afford it. Others obviously aren't. My point is, I wish there was more free and accessible help available for people in this country. I don't know why it's not a nationwide thing.
So many people fall through the cracks.
RIP to this young man. It's a sad day.
Now that I've moved, I have to shell out thousands of dollars a year for insurance that will cover MH services. I'm lucky I can afford it. Others obviously aren't. My point is, I wish there was more free and accessible help available for people in this country. I don't know why it's not a nationwide thing.
So many people fall through the cracks.
RIP to this young man. It's a sad day.
Classic Era.
someone says few bad things and for some it's free real estate to go nuclear on them, and mods are asleep.
This mob mentality and pages of shitting on people should be banned here.
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"Members that appear to be using an obituary thread as an opportunity to post vitriol will be moderated."
Attempting to hurt or punish is a poor way to pay your respects. This thread began with a tremendous outpouring of sympathy and support. It must not end by tearing itself apart.
As always, our Mental Health community welcomes members seeking support or company during difficult times like these:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mental-health-era-ot2-community-and-understanding.95803/
If you or someone you know is suffering, additional help is available:
International: https://ibpf.org/resource/list-international-suicide-hotlines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines
US: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/chat/
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-8255
UK: http://www.samaritans.org
Samaritan Lifeline: 116 123
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Lifeline Australia: 13 11 14
If there is one thing that I think absolutely must change about the modern streamer culture, it is this: Audiences literally cheering on the real-time mental descent of this man while bottom-feeding tabloidists sought to make money off it and further provoke him. I strongly believe his police encounter should not have been allowed to have been livestreamed, and that he should not have retained access to a streaming platform amidst his breakdown.
I believe that when it comes right down to it at the very end, someone who is sufficiently dedicated to the goal of ending their life can and will find a way to do so. There is only so much that public bystanders or even licensed agents can do in such cases. Etika's standoff with the police was, frankly, miraculous. Though he was at great risk for harming himself and others in that moment, even now I don't know that a mandatory hold could have done much.
I do not believe that holding a person in miserable conditions, denying them their autonomy, in order to keep them alive is necessarily an act of generosity.
I am quoting these posts as I believe they deserve to be reposted:
I believe that when it comes right down to it at the very end, someone who is sufficiently dedicated to the goal of ending their life can and will find a way to do so. There is only so much that public bystanders or even licensed agents can do in such cases. Etika's standoff with the police was, frankly, miraculous. Though he was at great risk for harming himself and others in that moment, even now I don't know that a mandatory hold could have done much.
I do not believe that holding a person in miserable conditions, denying them their autonomy, in order to keep them alive is necessarily an act of generosity.
I am quoting these posts as I believe they deserve to be reposted:
Era needs to fundamentally reform the way it approaches conversations around mental illness. There is no rule against ableism on Era and why its tolerated is beyond me. This board is not a safe space for people suffering from mental illness and long before the Etika incident the way people on this board openly mocked people with mental health issues with zero consequences ripped me apart and deeply hurt as someone with a life-long history of mental health struggles.
I hope we can take this as an opportunity to listen and learn because what's happening now on this board is systemic ableism and there needs to be a fundamental review of policy
I hope we can take this as an opportunity to listen and learn because what's happening now on this board is systemic ableism and there needs to be a fundamental review of policy
My condolences to everyone affected.
It's undeniable that previous comments have been disgusting and if some people want to turn this tragedy into Twitter drama then yikes. Report posts which are against the rules.
This.
It's undeniable that previous comments have been disgusting and if some people want to turn this tragedy into Twitter drama then yikes. Report posts which are against the rules.
Same shit happened to Lil Peep. Everything he did all his cries for help on Instagram had been brushed off everything he had been saying was just touted at being a part of his image. But really everyone ignored some of his last cries before it was too late.
Damn. That's really sad. I'm not familiar with him, but how heartbreaking. My heart goes out to all of his loved ones. :(
I was too upset and mad to post anything before. But I'll quote myself from another thread:
I have severe depression. But I have never thought of killing myself cause to me that would not only cause pain to myself, but to others.
But you know what? Not everyone thinks like me. Not everyone is me. And we should NEVER take any idea of suicide lightly. No matter how much the person has changed or attempted before, it's always important. It's always crucial. Don't ever downplay no matter how much a past history has hurt you or gotten you mad. A person who goes through mental problems can completely change themselves.
Take these things seriously. Because they literally can happened to anyone. And the worst thing we can think of afterwards is "It might have been!" Let's not get to that. Let's help as much as we possibly can. Even if they don't ask for help.
RIP Etika. I'm really gonna miss you. Even though this past year has been really difficult, I'll always remember the greatest moments you shared with the world. Like the Smash Ultimate roster reveal and other videos of that time. I can only hope that now you will finally find peace.
I have severe depression. But I have never thought of killing myself cause to me that would not only cause pain to myself, but to others.
But you know what? Not everyone thinks like me. Not everyone is me. And we should NEVER take any idea of suicide lightly. No matter how much the person has changed or attempted before, it's always important. It's always crucial. Don't ever downplay no matter how much a past history has hurt you or gotten you mad. A person who goes through mental problems can completely change themselves.
Take these things seriously. Because they literally can happened to anyone. And the worst thing we can think of afterwards is "It might have been!" Let's not get to that. Let's help as much as we possibly can. Even if they don't ask for help.
RIP Etika. I'm really gonna miss you. Even though this past year has been really difficult, I'll always remember the greatest moments you shared with the world. Like the Smash Ultimate roster reveal and other videos of that time. I can only hope that now you will finally find peace.
RIP Etika. Hopefully everyone here has learned a lesson about the seriousness of mental illness. Hopefully mods & posters alike will reflect on their behavior in past threads involving this topic.
Etika, I am so sorry that you couldn't find a way to live with yourself. You will be missed.
Etika, I am so sorry that you couldn't find a way to live with yourself. You will be missed.
Its messed up that he was in custody not long ago when it was obvious to everyone that he wasn't OK but they just let him go like "he's fine". He obviously wasn't. This most likely would have been avoided if he had got the help he needed when he needed it. Its a shame.
Actions speak louder than words....
I'm pissed as hell at how Etika was treated here, but apparently cannot express that fact without retaliation now.
