Another one saying 4K is a waste of time. Which is interesting for those that want games to focus on other things instead.
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NX Gamer: Xbox Showcase Reveal Event Review and Technical Analysis
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If it's not ready that's a problem, console launches in probably just under 4 months against a fierce competitor. They need to come out swinging.
When you look at the first party games released by their competition the past few years compared to what they have released youd expect them to have a decent leg up.
Many folks enjoy and appreciate your work. We just tend to be a bit more quiet in most threads. I liked your run through on the lighting and look forward to more content.
Forza still impresses me. But the event had not enough gameplay and I talked to a friend today and we came to the conclusion that we don't know what happend to Halo. It's been 5 years and I would've hoped we see better graphics. Obviously sacrifices needs to be made for a 60FPS game, but there are two issues I wondered about. Why is the game running at 60 on base Xbox One? Why not take Gears approach and the second issue Gears 5 simply looked better than Halo Infinite.
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As someone that never played Halo - was the movement really always that slow paced? Is that the kind of movement that fans like?
After seeing the new Doom games - I'm not sure I would be happy with anything as slow as in the demo. But as I say I know nothing about the Halo games so if that's the style/pace and that's what the fans want then that's good.
After seeing the new Doom games - I'm not sure I would be happy with anything as slow as in the demo. But as I say I know nothing about the Halo games so if that's the style/pace and that's what the fans want then that's good.
Yes, and that was actually faster than Halo 1-3 because of the grappling hook/sprint, which a large portion of Halo fans hate.
I'm playing CE, and yes, it's kind of slow paced, I don't know if it's the same on the other games, but I know that they are trying to achieve the same feelings that were in CE, so it makes sense.
I wish that the grappling hook was faster tho, it's an gameplay element that even in a ''slow'' paced game like Infinite it should be fast.
Exactly, the world is looking so lifeless with the static foliage. The previews from 2018/19 looked much better in this regard.
So what was on show the other day is considered almost too fast? Or they just don't like sprint because it means they cannot shoot at the same time (I thin that's the case from the demo footage)?
I feel when it comes to technical stuff, most people here, including myself, don't know what they are talking about. Our knowledge comes from things we read here or see in Videos. So it always baffles me, when people with almost no knowledge of game development think they know better then people like Alex or developers. But that is not just on this forum, a lot of youtubers and some journalists do the same "why didn't the developer just do this?" talk.
Dynamic Res / 60 def is a way better way to go a lot more people have come around for this
Why do you not enlighten us with evidence for levelling such a bold accusation?
They hate sprint because of what it does to the flow multiplayer arena maps and makes vehicles less valuable/special. I don't think too many people care that it's in campaign, but we'll have to see how multiplayer is handled.
He's hardly in the minority calling out Halo Infinite's disappointing visuals. It's more telling that you reached for the biased card though.
Don't waste your time. Just report and move on. People continually derail threads because it's not glowing of their Fav plastic box
Holy shit, lighten up. It's just video games dude. I like DF and NX for the reason that they're different and NX isn't exactly a gag reel lol. They're both great at what they do.
E3 season is a time for laughs especially with what's going on in the World. We all need cheered up. Every company gets their time for ridicule.
I like how in detail he goes, I've been waiting on this.
I never noticed the grass disappeared on the edge of the screen before it was out of view. They should have waited for this or showed it at another event letting people know it was super early and not ready to be shown/put on a pedestal.
I never noticed the grass disappeared on the edge of the screen before it was out of view. They should have waited for this or showed it at another event letting people know it was super early and not ready to be shown/put on a pedestal.
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Fez blew my mind when I saw it for the first time. It was one of the first pixel art aesthetics titles that immediately stood out to me. It is still part of my backlog on PS3/4. And it reminds of Echochrome to this day.
Another indie that caught my eye was The Gunk (ambivalent feelings about the name though):
NXGamer I hope one day you make a omnibus of analysis for a few indie titles. They have come a long way since the days of PS3 in terms visual fidelity and overall scope.
Well, I appreciate what you have been able to contribute here. I look forward to more of your content.
The added clarity is never a bad thing. But in a situation where it's "reconstruction technique + <4k, good lighting, shadows, and texture" vs "native 4k + poor lighting, shadows, and textures", the answer should be obvious. In some ways, full 4k only manages to highlight those other deficiencies.
Touted though 4k may be right now, given the power of these consoles and the realities of cost that things like RT have, we're going to see a lot of AAA games coming in under native 4k. (And that will be just fine as long as the techniques they use to counter that resolution hit are good.)
Gunk looked great too. Super cool looking platformer def looks like a treat.
The interesting thing about the intro is all he did was overlay Phil talking about Xbox Series X and Halo footage with one quick cut of a older halo game in there. Then after that at around 30 seconds say "at what cost Phil" with the popular Craig meme shown. It reminded me of the Game Awards video for Xbox Series X, with the guy talking about dreams, and power.
I said it before, but MS could had sit on Gears 5 and release it as a launch game for Series X. That game looks impressive already on Xbox One. Would had given Infinite more time in the oven for a 2021 release. Would also have given them a heavy hitter for 2021, which they need as next year is looking rather barren for Xbox first party exclusives.
Come on man. Look I love halo, I've just stopped playing 2 hours of halo 5 multiplayer and then watched this video. It was a good analysis and it's a massive dissapointment how poor the slipspace engine performs, even compared to some current gen games. I was happy with what was said - I am really gobsmacked how bad parts of it look and don't scale bar resolution.
Maybe it would've given them time to write a proper ending to the campaign too. A Gears at launch would've been awesome.
yeahhh "nothing to do with the fact it has real time lighting" woof.
It's the bad old days of 2013-2014 all over again. Nobody can be positive about one console without pissing off fans of the other console. I wish that 343i had given more of an idea of what Halo: Infinite is so that we have something else to talk about, because the topic of its visuals is completely exhausted and many of the arguments aren't even about Halo itself anymore, but warz instead.
Real time is likely, it reminds me of Sea of Thieves in a way.
Is bias really that bold of a claim? It's something pretty much everyone is guilty of, myself included. I think his coverage of Xbox games is either limited, or weirdly negative. Thinking back to his commentary on Gears 5 for his 2019 tech roundup which he ended by saying something to the effect of it did nothing to evolve the gameplay and progression, despite the game having non-linear open sections and introducing abilities through Jack that progress over time.
That's one thing I noticed with Halo, the PBR material's don't seem good at all, there's no metals, everything's has these flat game like materials, there's so many small details lacking like explosions with no lights. It's weird like they have no art director or something.
Yep, I don't think he is a fanboy. However he has a slight BS and that's fine imo. But it should be fine for people to comment on that, too.
I keep seeing people misinterpret this and apply it to things that have nothing to do with "looking flat." When something looks flat it always refers to the lighting lacking depth, either because of the direction (subjects lit from the front are generally referred to as flat) or because of how diffused the lighting is (for example overcast weather creating very soft shadows). You tackled this head-on and gave an expansive talk about lighting in games which I thought was absolutely excellent and necessary. It's frustrating to then see people saying Halo looks flat because the trees don't sway, because of pop-in, or the art design is too clean when that has absolutely nothing with "looking flat" and what you focused on.
I think a lot of people are angry and disappointed and they're looking for someone to direct this to and you've unfortunately caught some unwarranted flack in the middle of it.
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They actually have one of the best art directors (IMO), Sparth:
I don't know what happened to translating the style in-game, though.
You did a great job and your video was enlightening. I know video creators get a lot of flak sometimes, especially in the middle of console wars. But please don't take them to heart. You, the DF crew and NXGamer are doing a good job.
I think it's obvious he said raytracing won't fix it because that's the only missing part of the puzzle that is confirmed to come at a later date. People are wondering why they didn't wait to show it off with the raytracing so it looks complete, and NX is saying it won't help as much as we think it will.
I don't think so, I just think he is honest and doesn't hold back, he's not part of a company so doesn't have to go gentle on the hardware companies.
You know why, it keeps the flames going.
As far as professionalism there is the way DF did it and the way NX did it.
He already did and imo he has a point. Not saying NXGamer is a fanboy, but he do prefers Playstation. That's obvious and fine, because he tries to be as objective as possible. But sometimes statements like in the Gears video happen, which are factual wrong.