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Caz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do we know if zen 3 is expected with big navi? Or is it separate
Probably separately; the Radeon VII and RX 5000 series GPUs were released separately from the Zen 2 CPUs in 2019, same goes for the Vega 56/64 and Zen 1 but that might change this year given AMD's planning to release their GPUs before the console. It's possible they'll go "here's what consoles will be using, here is the desktop equivalent for those who want unparalleled performance" in October-ish but don't quote me on that.

Somewhat unrelated: I am willing to admit I was wrong about a 3080Ti not happening because that gap between the 3080 and 3090 is massive; even with a rumored 3080 20GB GPU tacking on $100-150 to the base price of $700, there's still a large space for a 3080Ti to take up, likely depending on how competitive the RDNA 2 GPUs end up being compared to the 3080 and 3070.
 
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Anyone else feel like the 3080 is crippled by the 10 gigs of ram? Like how is this future proof when games already eat that much on 4K. They are obviously trying to make the 3090 look a lot more impressive than it is. The cuda cores aren't that much higher, the performance difference will come down to the RAM pool. Pretty sure the 3080 can do 8K too.
 

MatrixMan.exe

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not a fan of the other cards I've seen. The 3070 FE looks the best, so far anyway. And coming in at 242mm, a perfect fit for my case.

That said, AORUS 3070 cards are missing off the Gigabyte website. And MSI and ASUS have yet to show anything unless I'm missing something?
 

LowParry

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Oct 26, 2017
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So just so I'm clear before making the purchase, the EVGA FTW3 card needs the 3 x 8 pins. From my PSU, I just need the straight 3 x 8 pin connections to the GPU and I'm good to go? No sort of adapter between them?
 

TaySan

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Dec 10, 2018
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Anyone else feel like the 3080 is crippled by the 10 gigs of ram? Like how is this future proof when games already eat that much on 4K. They are obviously trying to make the 3090 look a lot more impressive than it is. The cuda cores aren't that much higher, the performance difference will come down to the RAM pool. Pretty sure the 3080 can do 8K too.
One of the main reasons I'm going for 3090 over 3080. 10 GB seems way too small for next-gen.
 

BeI

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Dec 9, 2017
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I wonder if the 3060 is going to return to the typical 1/2 shader count of the xx80 card, putting the 3060 at the same 4352 shader count as the 2080 ti? That would be tasty, and put it around ~15TFLOPs. And a 3050 at half the size of that could be at 2176 shaders similar to the 2060 super.
 

Kainazzo

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Dec 13, 2017
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I run a 6700K with a Pascal Titan, and the Hitman 2 benchmark (1440p, max settings except medium HBAO) still averaged ~71 fps. Crazy good, and I say this because it looks like the 3080 could have up to double the performance?! What a monster, hoping that'll get me through another 5 years.
 

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I wish we could already know how the FE design performs because I'm pretty sure it's gonna have better build quality than most of the AiBs
And look better too
 

Darktalon

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Oct 27, 2017
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I knew my hard work and dedication would pay off. I'm so freaking happy right now. I would also like to thank you for keeping my spirits up, my hopes high, and my laughs out loud. Now who wants to fight me for a 3080 FE? All y'all know you want to wait for the AIB offerings. What the hell do y'all need two slots for? Go take all the cursed 2.5 and 2.75 slots please god.
Yay! Glad I could help :)
I'm torn between 3080 FE, and EVGA 3080 FTW3
 

Zojirushi

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Oct 26, 2017
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So we really all gonna buy 600W+ PSUs for the 3080? I was doing well with a 400W with an 8700k and a 980Ti so far... this seems so excessive lol.
 

Nooblet

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sure I agree with that and I'm sure they'll have one lined up at some point, whether because of the competition or to fill the price gap.
As you said, it'd be just like any Ti vs Titan so nothing out of the ordinary.

The one difference is how strong the 80 card is this time.
Ti in the past were both a big jump over the 80 and very close in perf to the Titan for much cheaper.
The value proposition has changed some.
Yep xx80 to Ti was usually a 35% jump. But this time around the xx80 is only 20% behind the top of the line card.
 

shark97

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Nov 7, 2017
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Best case scenario right now for AMD would only result in some competition to 3070/3070 Ti (rumored).

I don't see how they can compete with 3080 and above.


Huh? 3070 is ~2080ti?

5700Xt is 40 CU's and within ~30% performance of 2080 Ti, Big Navi is rumored to be 80, so 2X and then add some clock increase and maybe efficiency increase to RDNA 2 (maybe not a lot for the latter). Double 5700Xt alone will smoke the 2080Ti.

Nvidia has set a high bar though. But "competing with" 3070/Ti should be a doddle for 80 RDNA 2 CU's.
 

linhost

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Oct 27, 2017
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Any info on the ports? I know in the live stream they mentioned HDMI 2.1....but I never got to see a shot of the port layout. Curious if TB or USB C/4 will be on there. The renders seemed to show just 4 ports....so maybe just DP and HDMI?
 

Nikokuno

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Jul 22, 2019
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Seems like there is no small form factor 3080, even MSI 2 fans Ventus is 3 fans this time. My GPU Clearance is 315mm : new case, new PSU, new GPU, new display I guess lol.
 

Darktalon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Anyone else feel like the 3080 is crippled by the 10 gigs of ram? Like how is this future proof when games already eat that much on 4K. They are obviously trying to make the 3090 look a lot more impressive than it is. The cuda cores aren't that much higher, the performance difference will come down to the RAM pool. Pretty sure the 3080 can do 8K too.
One of the main reasons I'm going for 3090 over 3080. 10 GB seems way too small for next-gen.
This is a misconception about how much a game uses for VRAM, and the number you see in MSI Afterburner or Rivatuner, which includes Caching.
We can take Flight Simulator 2020 for example, if you use the developer FPS overlay, it will tell you exactly how much the game is using.
On 4K, everything set to Ultra and all sliders to to the right except supersampling, FS2020 only uses 8GB of VRAM! Everything above that is just the game caching assets that it may or may not need, and they will fill fill fill all that room up with potentially useless data, which is good because unused VRAM is wasted VRAM, but you will not have a performance disadvantage having a 10GB card in 4k gaming even including Next-Gen titles.
 

Timu

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wonder if the 3060 is going to return to the typical 1/2 shader count of the xx80 card, putting the 3060 at the same 4352 shader count as the 2080 ti? That would be tasty, and put it around ~15TFLOPs. And a 3050 at half the size of that could be at 2176 shaders similar to the 2060 super.
Having the 3060 equal to or near an RTX 2080 Ti would be fine by me.