i don't know, actually. I know the 3090s have chips on the back of the PCBs, right? Do the 3080s as well? If not the 10GB variants, I assume the 20GB versions will. And we know for sure some 3080s have no backplate, so I assume no heat pipes either? IDK. And how will a waterblock cool the memory chips on the back of the PCB? I have many questions, but this is not my realm of expertise.
3080 mem is all on the front, 3090 has to be on the back due to chip size limitations currently so they have to clam shell it.
i see. I wonder how they're doing to do waterblocks for the 3090, then?
I've never run water (except AIO's) so yeah I'm not really sure. Should be interesting.
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also, do we expect the 20GB variants to not have chips on the back of the card as well? Is Micron expected to be able to do higher-capacity chips soon or will those run into the same issue?
read it. it makes no mention of the memory chips on the back or how they will be cooled (if at all). And their recommended backplate (sold separately) is only for cosmetic purposes.EK Water Blocks for Reference Design NVIDIA RTX 30 Series Graphics Cards Are Now Available! - ekwb.com
EK®, the leading computer cooling solutions provider, is ready to offer its premium high-performance GPU water block for reference PCB layout NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX™ 30 Series graphics cards. The brand new water block is aptly named EK-Quantum Vector RTX 3080/3090 D-RGB, and it is very important...
Watercooled backplates already exist for the 1080 and 2080 series, that would not be an issue (just more expensive).
I see. So should we expect such solutions to be available for the 3090 at launch? Because EK's blog post doesn't mention such a solution at all. Do these chips just not need cooling, perhaps? I'm sure they didn't simply forget they are on the back.
Yes, on the front chips (processor side). It's not a sandwich design; it can't be flowing over the back chips. Hence the discussion. Maybe they don't need cooling, idk. It's only a topic because of reports of 100C temps on 6X mem chips.
I definitely don't think the RAM by itself gets as hot as in Igor's video because the "high end" AIB's are cooling the backside RAM with a small copper heatpipe on the backplate and nothing else on the 3090's. So it has to be something like the VRM creating most of the heat.
gotcha. Yea that's what I was wondering. If they don't need to be cooled, it's all good.
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Funny you say that, Antec Signature psu lets you link two together.
I took a closer look at what EKWB and Alphacool are doing and it really doesn't look good (not even for the 3080): EKWB completely changed the layout for their 3080/3090 models a few days after the first announcement. For questions about active backplates (or similar solutions) they only refer to their (very expensive) passive backplates.
apparently youre not the only one, there was a REDDIT Chat going with over 30 people in the same boat. Mostly folks who live in Florida. Im in VA and mine is slated to ship on Friday (got pushed back a day)
My TUF shipped on Friday from Connecticut, got updated last night being in Houston, and then early this morning said it was in Baltimore. None of those places are anywhere near to where I live. It was supposed to arrive Monday night but now says tomorrow. At least it's getting to travel before it's locked in my case.
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Updated Nvidia GPU hierarchy.
GALAX's internal roadmap confirms GeForce RTX 3080 20GB, GeForce RTX 3060 - VideoCardz.com
A leaked Galax roadmap confirms the upcoming GeForce RTX 30 series graphics cards. GALAX confirms GeForce RTX 3080 20GB, GeForce RTX 3060 The company has held a meeting with either employees or key partners in China. The logo in the upper left corner confirms that the slide belongs to Galax. The...
Looks like I was right about the 3070 being weaker than the 2080ti.
Updated Nvidia GPU hierarchy.
GALAX's internal roadmap confirms GeForce RTX 3080 20GB, GeForce RTX 3060 - VideoCardz.com
A leaked Galax roadmap confirms the upcoming GeForce RTX 30 series graphics cards. GALAX confirms GeForce RTX 3080 20GB, GeForce RTX 3060 The company has held a meeting with either employees or key partners in China. The logo in the upper left corner confirms that the slide belongs to Galax. The...
Looks like I was right about the 3070 being weaker than the 2080ti.
2080S to 2080Ti is +15% on average.
Depends on the game, if the fans are maxed out I was seeing around 1700RPM's at max for stock. I have 3 bottom fans in the Lian Li O11 Dynamic case. It's doing an amazing job cooling the card and I'm seeing similar/better performance to AIB OC cards.
The rumors until now was about RTX 3080 20GB from AIB partners only.
They're just set at a constant speed, the biggest thing the bottom fans do (in addition to providing cool air to the GPU fans) is blow air over the middle fins on the FE that don't have a fan that sit right over the VRM's.
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Cool but what about the real deal - 8K gaming?NVIDIA confirms GeForce RTX 3090 is 10 to 15% faster than RTX 3080 in 4K gaming - VideoCardz.com
NVIDIA published a new blog post outlining the performance of the upcoming flagship ‘BFGPU’. NVIDIA: GeForce RTX 3090 is about 10-15% faster than RTX 3080 in 4K gaming, expect a limited supply The RTX 3090 graphics card featuring 10496 CUDA cores and 24GB of GDDR6X memory is launching tomorrow...
