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Isee

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,235
When do we think the 3060 is gonna be announced/release ? Do we expect 2070-2080 performance ?

Considering a 3070 is supposed to be as fast as a 2080Ti (or even slightly faster).
Than yes, 2070-2080 performance sounds realistic.

I wouldn't be surprised to see 3060 cards this November, but Q1 2021 could be more realistic.
 

Timu

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,537
Considering a 3070 is supposed to be as fast as a 2080Ti (or even slightly faster).
Than yes, 2070-2080 performance sounds realistic.

I wouldn't be surprised to see 3060 cards this November, but Q1 2021 could be more realistic.
I hope RTX 3060 is like 2080-2080 Super performance for 350-400 bucks.
 

LCGeek

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,856
The most interesting single tidbit was when Jensen said "Using the same methodology as Microsoft Xbox" in reference to ray triangle intersections on the RT core.

I wonder if this is a general comment regarding RDNA2, or if they're actually doing things slightly different to RDNA 2 and PS5 at Xbox.

One the same page.....

Doesn't RDNA2 share resources to do RT with rasterization. Ampere sounds better from hardware cause despite concurrency of scheduling they still give enough performance for rt, rastersization, and tensor. Not knocking RNDA2 but hardware ampere is something fierce. I'm jealous that networking architecture for queues or services overall aren't as great as gpu designs are for graphics. The only solution forward is to make sure all fundamental are strong considering doing everything all at once is how rt seems to require things to be done well and fast. Streamlining will be a bitch but solid performance gains can be had now. PBR forced changes but this is gonna get the ball rolling on 2 different aspects of the rendering pipeline that haven't much tangible gains in a while.

We basically went from RT at low single/double fps territory and nowhere near fucking close to 4k to an 8k monsters. 3090 is making 8k viable. For stability we will always gut res and dynamic res + dlss is just a concept I'm wrapping my head around. So consoles have establish some form of rt performance in 2060 range and this the 3090 has potential to be one of the greatest increases or the greatest. Most other cards up until this point have been just raster that card does, raster, rt, and tensor.

hnnnnng.

I hate going conspiracy but today is so full of indirect confirmation I can barely get it in me to sleep.

I think that is fairly likely considering the perf/cost of the 3070/3080.

Once you oc them bitches to 2ghz, where are the gifs?
 
Oct 29, 2017
13,474
I've seen that people are selling their 2080tis for $500-600, but are there 2080 being sold for $300-400? That's your 3060 without having to wait!
 

Temperance

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,796
[NO 2FA]
Those were leaks before. All the actual released specs have 1 HDMI port.

edit; I am full of shit sorry!

This gigabyte card clearly has 3 HDMI ports:
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There's no guarantee that more then one of those HDMI would be 2.1
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,646
Just saw this video a lot of info goes a bit over my head but am I right in assuming he is claiming that non rt performance from 2080ti to 3080 will be minimal?

 

ShadowFox08

Banned
Nov 25, 2017
3,524
3080's 10GB Ram is appalling. Should be at least 16GB. Once hype blows over, and people see 3080's RAM bottleneck, majority will go for 3070 or 3090 for serious gaming, me thins.
 

Deleted member 49611

Nov 14, 2018
5,052
Are benchmarks out? Don't buy just based on what Nvidia say. It's marketing bullshit. Wait for benchmarks and see what they say.
 

BlueStarEXSF

Member
Dec 3, 2018
4,502
Considering a 3070 is supposed to be as fast as a 2080Ti (or even slightly faster).
Than yes, 2070-2080 performance sounds realistic.

I wouldn't be surprised to see 3060 cards this November, but Q1 2021 could be more realistic.

If that's the case, I'll probably sell my 1070ti and get one.

I hope RTX 3060 is like 2080-2080 Super performance for 350-400 bucks.

Let's hope !

I've seen that people are selling their 2080tis for $500-600, but are there 2080 being sold for $300-400? That's your 3060 without having to wait!

Power draw is an issue. I'd rather not upgrade my PSU.
 

Milennia

Prophet of Truth - Community Resetter
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,254
After some late night considering, I may go for a 3080 over a 3090

I mainly want to play at 4K 120hz, so the cheapest card that can get me close to that or on it would be the choice

My current 2070 super doesn't compare to even the 3080 so that's that
Having a difficult time deciding
 

nStruct

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
3,132
Seattle, WA

Isee

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,235
Just saw this video a lot of info goes a bit over my head but am I right in assuming he is claiming that non rt performance from 2080ti to 3080 will be minimal?

All we have so far is one number for Borderlands 3 (from the DF video)

BL3, 4k, maxed out

DF 2080: 34 FPS
DF 3080: +80% (61 FPS)
2080Ti: ~49 FPS

This would make a 3080 ~25% stronger than a 2080Ti, in this one game.
But there are games where a 2080Ti is 50% stronger than a 1080Ti and games where it's just 20%.

I see it that way, If amd would have been able to outperform a 2080Ti by 25% for ~700€, the Internet would have gone crazy.
 

Deleted member 49611

Nov 14, 2018
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3080's 10GB Ram is appalling. Should be at least 16GB. Once hype blows over, and people see 3080's RAM bottleneck, majority will go for 3070 or 3090 for serious gaming, me thins.
Gotta make some space for the 3080 Ti.

Probably ~9500 cores and 16GB Vram. At £999 or £1,099 (3080 is 649 and 3090 is 1499)
 

kami_sama

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,997
I think that in DF's video there were enough non-RT, non-DLSS games to put the "raster uplift bad" rumors to rest.
 

VZ_Blade

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
1,338
Really tempted to go for a 3080 instead of a 3070, but I only have a 650w PSU... Hopefully some brave soul can test the card out on a lower wattage PSU and see if it's fine or not.
 

Deleted member 49611

Nov 14, 2018
5,052
Really tempted to go for a 3080 instead of a 3070, but I only have a 650w PSU... Hopefully some brave soul can test the card out on a lower wattage PSU and see if it's fine or not.
750W is recommended for 3080. I have a 750W and probably will just get a 850-1000W to be safe.
 

kami_sama

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,997
am I blind but the 2080ti is omitted from here? That is what I'm currently wanting to know the most. Seems weird to omit the difference between 2080ti and 3080
I think it's due to two things. On the one hand, makes the 3080 look not as good. On the other it's a generation-on-generation comparison, that's why you have the 2070s and 3080s in there. It's a direct comparison on the same price bracket.
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,646
I think it's due to two things. On the one hand, makes the 3080 look not as good. On the other it's a generation-on-generation comparison, that's why you have the 2070s and 3080s in there. It's a direct comparison on the same price bracket.

right I get you. So a better comparison would be the eventual 3080ti compared to the 2080ti. The reviews and benches for the 3080 compared to the 2080ti will be very interesting indeed.
 

kami_sama

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,997

They weren't kidding when they said it was the first 8K60fps gaming card.
right I get you. So a better comparison would be the eventual 3080ti compared to the 2080ti. The reviews and benches for the 3080 compared to the 2080ti will be very interesting indeed.
yeah, I think most people will see the 3080 as the 2080ti successor. And most outlets will bench it like that, but considering the pricing, makes more sense to compare directly with the 2080.
 

LCGeek

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,856
didn't digital foundry test control without raytracing at 4K and still saw an 80 percent uplift in frames (basically locked 60fps at a guess) from 34fps.

I'm not vibiing that with that dude.

Yes it's cherry picked but some games just as you mentioned has good gains. I do love 40+ game benchmarks but nvidia wasn't allowing that and quite frankly it doesn't mean much with early drivers.

Some people are bad with context and for someone making certain kinds of anal references he should know better with prelim data this is good. It's top3 good in my entire lifettime. He needs to stop having all nighters.

The architecture has all sorts of benefits for most people.

He's horrible at math.

increasing your fps every 15 frames is insane based on history. For anyone caring about 4k60fps having any turing means you're not getting there vs ampere where you clearly can without dlss in some instances. Gamers especially enthusiast types are really gonna make this come down to title to tittle basis but we have 160-205% gains with or without RT, anyone in to path of exile knows that's straight juicin.
 
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Drain You

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 27, 2017
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Connecticut
Its been a long time since I built or will build a PC again (not for lack of want mind you) so i don't really have a foot in the game either way, but im loving what I'm reading. Maybe I should start saving.

Anyone know what going from an Intel HD Graphics 4400 to a 3070 would be? 😉
 

Anson225

Member
Oct 26, 2017
876
Been out of the scene for awhile, planning to get a 3080. Should I be getting FE or AIB? Are there any actual differences?