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gozu

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Oct 27, 2017
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I am disappointed that a 2080ti is only 60% faster than my 1070.

I will only upgrade when my new card is twice as fast. At this rate, it will have to be a 4070 or 3080ti.

Lame...I miss moore's law.
 

Lakeside

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Oct 25, 2017
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I am disappointed that a 2080ti is only 60% faster than my 1070.

I will only upgrade when my new card is twice as fast. At this rate, it will have to be a 4070 or 3080ti.

Lame...I miss moore's law.

What game/games/resolution are you using for that comparison, because it sounds incorrect? A 1080 Ti will do that in many cases.
 

EffettoNotte

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Mar 17, 2019
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I have a 1070 too and a 1440p/144Hz monitor. Should I wait for Ampere?
I'm not going to spend over 350/400$ for a graphic card.
 

PennyStonks

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May 17, 2018
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First off I'd be doing a bit more research than that particular site.. also, if those are correct it's really likely that those scenarios at 1080p are CPU limited.
Ya, GTA and Witcher are probably the only things not extremely CPU bound. GPUs from 6 years ago can hit the fps limit in LoL or csgo, but a 1070+ doesn't?

E: LoL max 1440p @160 fps uses 15% of a 1080ti
 

Gambit61

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm on a 1070 as well. Looks like Ampere is the codename for the RTX 3000 series coming in 2020. Hoping they come out before Lone Echo 2 if a Q1 (Cyberpunk) release isn't expected.
 

SiG

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Oct 25, 2017
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Does this mean the RTX 2070 Minis will drop in price?

Speaking of which, any word of a Super RTX Mini?
 

GrrImAFridge

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Oct 25, 2017
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Agreed. I'm seeing people saying they're going to sell a 2080 ti for the new 2080 ti super (which I don't even think is confirmed to exist?). In what world is the minimal performance you'd likely gain from that worth the hassle?

Wccftech said "We've been told it's a thing" and... that's it, really:

At this juncture, I'm doubtful it exists. Videocardz hasn't mentioned it since "independently confirming" Wccftech's June 12th report a little over two weeks ago, Wccftech itself hasn't mentioned it in the past two articles regarding the Super sub-series, and, IIRC, Tom's Hardware DE has said there won't be Super variants of Ti cards. I suspect there was a game of telephone and "The 2080 Super will be based on the same chip as the 2080 Ti" transmogrified into "There will be a 2080 Ti Super".
 

Pargon

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Oct 27, 2017
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The former. Titan and GeForce are separate product lines -- "prosumer" and consumer, respectively.
Edit: Oh, I'd forgotten that the Maxwell and Pascal Titans carry the GeForce moniker.
It arguably varies with the card.
  • The original Titan, Titan Black, and Titan Z? Compute monsters for prosumers. Well, the Titan Z was, but I seem to recall there being a driver update that killed compute performance on the card.
  • Titan V: prosumer card.
  • RTX Titan: eh, kind-of a prosumer card based on the amount of VRAM I guess.
All the other Titans are gaming cards.
That looks like a terrible comparison based on the resolution and selection of games. It's easily CPU-limited in many of them.
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Source.

I'm using 1440p since that should be GPU-bound in most tests, while not hitting bottlenecks on the 1070 at 4K - so it should be most representative of how the cards actually compare.
1080 Ti is approximately 50% faster than a 1070, while a 2080 Ti is approximately twice as fast as a 1070.

I'll be waiting for 30-series cards though. Those should be a much larger improvement since they're finally moving to a new process node, and should hopefully have second-generation RTX hardware.
 

dex3108

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Oct 26, 2017
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I am aiming to get 2070 Super around Christmas but only if really matches 2080 performance.
 

Terbinator

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Oct 29, 2017
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Wait so a 2080ti super isn't likely or what? its basically the only card i'm gonna upgrade from my 980ti otherwise fuck it, i'll just wait for a 30xx rtx card.
If you're looking to spend that 2080Ti/Super cash anyway it would be foolish to do so now. I suspect we'll have the new Nvidia cards by this time next year with better RT functionality/performance as devs get their head around it ready for the new consoles.

There is also CP2077 coming.
 

kostacurtas

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Darkstorne

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Oct 26, 2017
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So looking back through the thread do we think the new models will be even more expensive than the current RTX cards?
Given the weak sales performance of this gen, I think they have found the upper limit and wouldn't dare push prices any higher. Whether they keep prices the same or lower them though... I'm not sure. I just know which option I'd like to see =P
 

Fairy Godmother

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Atolm

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just picked up a 144hz monitor. I'm thinking about buying a second hand RTX2080 for games where I can't reach 144fps like Overwatch and Siege. How a much a jump is going from a 1080 to a 2080?
 

Tortillo VI

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May 27, 2018
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Thinking of getting one of the Supers. Probably the 2080s. Will be jumping from a 1060 so I'm expecting quite a bump in performance!
 

kostacurtas

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Oct 27, 2017
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RTX 2070 Super 13,5% improvement from the RTX 2070 on the FF XV benchmark:



Really good for a refresh series.
 

JahIthBer

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Jan 27, 2018
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RTX 2070 Super 13,5% improvement from the RTX 2070 on the FF XV benchmark:



Really good for a refresh series.

Only Nvidia favoured if you use the Nvidia exclusive features, sounds like a little bit of damage control tbh, especially since i never hear the words "AMD favoured" when AMD show off select Vulkan benchmarks from AMD sponsored games.
5700 XT is a dud as much as i wanted it to be better to force Nvidia price cuts.
 

modiz

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Oct 8, 2018
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Only Nvidia favoured if you use the Nvidia exclusive features, sounds like a little bit of damage control tbh, especially since i never hear the words "AMD favoured" when AMD show off select Vulkan benchmarks from AMD sponsored games.
5700 XT is a dud as much as i wanted it to be better to force Nvidia price cuts.
its actually much higher score than the Radeon 7, so its still the best performing GPU from AMD for FFXV, its just as APISAK says, FFXV windows edition heavily favors NVidia.
 

exaByte

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Jun 19, 2019
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If I get around 15-20% more performance from 2080 Super for a lower price, I might just sell my RTX 2080 "Classic".
 

iFirez

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Oct 25, 2017
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England
So we're not getting a SUPER version of the 2080Ti?

We're just getting new SUPER versions of the 2060, 2070 and 2080. So the 2080Ti from last year will still be the "best" graphics card going forward. (Not including the Titans...etc from nvidia) Or am I just misunderstanding?
 
Nov 8, 2017
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So we're not getting a SUPER version of the 2080Ti?

We're just getting new SUPER versions of the 2060, 2070 and 2080. So the 2080Ti from last year will still be the "best" graphics card going forward. (Not including the Titans...etc from nvidia) Or am I just misunderstanding?

2080ti will still be the top card yes. If there is a super variant, none of the more reputable sites have heard of it.
 

iFirez

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Oct 25, 2017
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2080ti will still be the top card yes. If there is a super variant, none of the more reputable sites have heard of it.
Good to know! I'm doing a PC upgrade in a month or so. I currently have a i7 5960x and a GTX 1080 (founders) so plan on upgrading to a i9 9900k and a RTX 2080Ti so these SUPER cards won't be something I look at unless they do announce a SUPER for the 2080Ti.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Good to know! I'm doing a PC upgrade in a month or so. I currently have a i7 5960x and a GTX 1080 (founders) so plan on upgrading to a i9 9900k and a RTX 2080Ti so these SUPER cards won't be something I look at unless they do announce a SUPER for the 2080Ti.
Just curious,with the new amd cpus next week why 9900i?