Doesn't TAA which is forced in this game produce artifacts as well?
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NVIDIA RTX 20 Series Reviews
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Doesn't TAA which is forced in this game produce artifacts as well?
There is a 1440p performance comparison in the video when ray tracing is on and 1440p DLSS has the same performance hit as 1440p with a 0.8 shader rate. For some reason, they didn't include a 4k performance comparison when ray tracing was on which is a little suspicious...Maybe DLSS is more beneficial with a lower performance hit than 1800p in that case as you theorize? (and it didn't fit the narrative they wanted to convey?) I remember seeing a performance advantage of DLSS over 1800p when ray tracing was on when testing it myself las week.
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theres a pretty large range between a 12 tflop gpu and the 6.5 of a 2060....
All TAA produce artifacts but it's a different set of artifacts although some TAA do have an overly strong post-sharpening too.
Personally, I still think that DLSS 1x is a waste of time for everyone involved and hope that we'll see DLSS 2x at some point.
It won't be a bottleneck at all. Games like AC Odyssey are extremely GPU bound, especially anything over 1080p.
For reference I get a frame rate in the 90's at 1080p on my RTX2080 with an AMD Ryzen 2600 OC'd to 4ghz.
I get a close to locked 60 at 4K 80% resolution scale.
Holy hell thanks yo for the details ! Is there anyway I can save/bookmark a post somewhere?
Good report from Hardware Unboxed, however they somewhat missed how TAA can look in motion - albeit they did cover some instances of DLSS flickering pretty badly.
A much better showing, but my enthusiasm is again tampered when compared to 1800p, especially with sharpening. I like some elements on DLSS better than 1800p, some not - which is a problem for DLSS, considering regular scaling + sharpening is an option on virtually every game at every aspect ratio and doesn't require you to wait on a patch.
DLSS might still be far superior in games with very poor TAA implementations and it of course can still improve (and the 1440p results look much better), but if we're still having to pick-and-choose which 'parts' are superior vs. regular scaling in its best implementation yet, it's a little difficult to get excited about.
A much better showing, but my enthusiasm is again tampered when compared to 1800p, especially with sharpening. I like some elements on DLSS better than 1800p, some not - which is a problem for DLSS, considering regular scaling + sharpening is an option on virtually every game at every aspect ratio and doesn't require you to wait on a patch.
DLSS might still be far superior in games with very poor TAA implementations and it of course can still improve (and the 1440p results look much better), but if we're still having to pick-and-choose which 'parts' are superior vs. regular scaling in its best implementation yet, it's a little difficult to get excited about.
If you take a base 1440p image and apply post sharpen to it, it will really not look like those DLSS results there ^^ I tried it, it looks, hah, a good deal different ^_^
So close to pulling the trigger on the RTX 2080 Ti. I originally was against it, but seeing the performance of Anthem (I know, not the best), The Division 2, and a few other games at 3440x1440 ultrawide, I need the extra POWA. My GTX 1080 Ti will move to my HTPC/Streaming PC and my GTX 1080 from that PC is up for sale. (it's on the for sale/trade for $400 if anyone's interested).
The improved NVENC encoding is also a selling point for me. I stream and record tons of gameplay, so I'd be taking advantage of the encoding.
Anyone have the EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC Ultra Gaming? If you, anything you like/dislike about it?
The improved NVENC encoding is also a selling point for me. I stream and record tons of gameplay, so I'd be taking advantage of the encoding.
Anyone have the EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC Ultra Gaming? If you, anything you like/dislike about it?
Not the same card but my kids have that model 2070. The only complaint that I can think of is that the HSF is REALLY BIG so make sure that'll work for you. I can promise that you won't be doing the hand-me-down thing with it in a year or two, at least not with that SFF case.
Otherwise it's a reference PCB "A" bin chip setup as far as I know.
What API? The API is ask Nvidia to take your game into their black-box making black-box.
At some point Nvidia should let devs make their own DLSS patterns, and separate that from the drivers, but I don't expect it to be done this vid card gen.
So, what do we know about black boxes i.e. DLSS exactly? Anything apart from AI, Deep learning ... ? What does it do mathematically, or algorithmically?
Do you have any experience with neural nets? They tend to be very opaque. I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia themselves knows very little about a specific game's DLSS set.
God i love rtx on metro. Every game needs it.
Rtx on
Rtx off
It's actually kinda funny how improperly lit the base game can be. Like what in the world is lighting the floor in the second pic lol
Rtx on
Rtx off
It's actually kinda funny how improperly lit the base game can be. Like what in the world is lighting the floor in the second pic lol
Not true at all for me.
And sadly I can't use DLSS for the HDR bug.
Also, I finished the game. What's the point of fixing things so late?
Agree 100%, I hope more games use it for lighting not just shadows or reflections.God i love rtx on metro. Every game needs it.
Rtx on
Rtx off
It's actually kinda funny how improperly lit the base game can be. Like what in the world is lighting the floor in the second pic lol
What specs do you expect to be published? DLSS is currently implemented through NGX - NV's proprietary machine learning API. There's nothing really to program there beyond adding DLSS DLL calls to your renderer I guess.
DLSS is an implementation of ML AA technology and it is and will be NV proprietary (since they are the ones who made it). I can see them porting it from NGX to DirectML at some point which will potentially allow it to run on any GPU supporting DirectML - but that's about as much as we can expect here. Anyone can try and implement their own ML AA over DirectML once this will come out of beta in Win10 1903.
Are you referring to the 1440p DLSS? If so, I do mention that it apparently looks better than 1080p scaled:
If you're referring to 4k DLSS, as I've said before there's little point to compare it to 1440p, it does not equate to 1440p performance, DLSS of course has overhead. It only makes sense to compare it to the regularly-scaled resolution that its performance profile matches, with Metro this is 1800p+sharpening.
It is more detailed, but once again it is way too dark. All that light coloured metal would bounce light like crazy.God i love rtx on metro. Every game needs it.
Rtx on
Rtx off
It's actually kinda funny how improperly lit the base game can be. Like what in the world is lighting the floor in the second pic lol
GPU. You'll be fine on 6700K for another couple of years at least.
Coming from a 980TI and a I7 3770.
The performance jump will be quite the big one i reckon :p
Reading this thread always makes me wanting an upgrade I probably don't need instead one I would lol
I can't lie; being well over 100fps in Anthem and other games is a feelsgoodman every time I load up with my 2080Ti. I have no complaints.
I did but I really didn't like the software from AMD's side. Plus the Radeon card on there kind of sucked.
Also streaming isn't as great since it takes away some performance on my CPU, at least with the NVENC encoding its a smaller performance hit.
I dunno. The CM 130 Elite is pretty big, which is why I've yet to part with it.
Ordered the EVGA RTX 2080 Ti XC after going back and forth. My GTX 1080 will sell, and that will be the end of it.
Ordered the EVGA RTX 2080 Ti XC after going back and forth. My GTX 1080 will sell, and that will be the end of it.
What drivers are you running? I have a 2080 and I get dips down to 50s and my friend with a 2080ti goes down to 70.
Hey bros, any secrets to getting the card to run with a GPU clock at 2000MHz or better? Mine ocassionally hits like 2020MHz or so, but seems to hover around 1970MHz or so most of the time. Everything I'm playing continues to have an extremely high framerate (games like Destiny 2 and Apex spend most of their time at my set max of 117 fps at 3440x1440 with everything maxed), but it's weird to see MHz be not particularly high.
I'm using Afterburner with Power at 130% and the core clock set to Curve after doing some of those tests. Memory clock at +700MHz, fairly aggressive custom fan curve. No driver crashes or anything; just a lower than expected clock. Any suggestions or should I not even bother worrying about it?
In Anthem I haven't noticed dips below maybe 70 or 80 in the city. Generally 100+ in the world.
I'm using Afterburner with Power at 130% and the core clock set to Curve after doing some of those tests. Memory clock at +700MHz, fairly aggressive custom fan curve. No driver crashes or anything; just a lower than expected clock. Any suggestions or should I not even bother worrying about it?
That's the one I have. grats! It's been good to me. No complaints.
Still on 417.71 because Apex.
In Anthem I haven't noticed dips below maybe 70 or 80 in the city. Generally 100+ in the world.
tough call. The only GPU upgrade out there for you is the 2080ti and that's going to set you back $1400. I'd probably sit on what you got for awhile if I were you.
welp , i bit the bullet on this beast .
Was quite the expensive bullet to bite on but YOLO ! :)
Im jealous!
What games are you running right now where you're not happy with the performance at the settings you want to play at?
I think it would be better to keep both for now and wait for the next generation of both cpu and gpu.
Finally get yourself an ava finally icecold. You look like some schmoe who will get banned and forgotten with that weird egg human default one. haha
Okay so I just got an installed my rtx 2060 question is when I ordered it it's suppose to come with a free game either Anthem or Battlefield. Where do you redeem them at. I order it from New Egg btw.
How is memory overclocking on 2080Ti cards? I'm currently at +1000 MHz which seems to be a bit high?
I'm always a bit sensible about Vram overclocking because there is no way to check temperature on there (without modding).
Also, would it help to cool memory if I install thermal pads on the backside of my PCB where memory chips are located so that there is some kind of heat transfer to the metal backplate?
I'm always a bit sensible about Vram overclocking because there is no way to check temperature on there (without modding).
Also, would it help to cool memory if I install thermal pads on the backside of my PCB where memory chips are located so that there is some kind of heat transfer to the metal backplate?
