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SunBroDave

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:o

I wish every game was this well optimised.
IdTech is a beast. I'd be curious if there are any Wolfenstein 2 benchmarks floating around
 

GhostTrick

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Oct 25, 2017
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Why is this an ouch? Are we comparing the 3080ti to the 2080ti? No.

Why are folks complaining that the lower tiered class card is just beating the best card from last gen by ONLY 25%. And, oh yeah, for $500 less.

Not to sound harsh, but folks really need to put the product and what it's trying to do in perspective.

It's beating it by 32%.
2080ti is 24 slower than 3080 at 4k, which means 3080 is 32% faster than 2080ti.
 

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I shouldn't be surprised about the tone here, it's to be expected.

Really liking the reviews so far, looks like a massive improvement at 4k from my own 1080Ti and might finally be the 4k60fps everywhere machine that I've wanted.

Skipping the 2000 series is looking better than ever.
 

Shalashaska

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Looks like its a pretty great card, I'm excited to see the 3070 and 3090 benchmarks as well.

I'll probably hang on to my 1080ti, as it has been keeping up just fine for my purposes. But glad to know that a good upgrade path exists now.
 

BeI

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Wow the 3080 is like 2x performance over the 2070S my partner has in games with raytracing.
 

Rappy

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Nvidia kept comparing the 3080 to the 2080 Ti in their presentation, so I think that's where it started.
Yeah, and I'm glad many of the reviewers called them out for how stupid they were to do that.
I mean, if we're getting technical, they compared it to the 2080 not the 2080ti. Any reviewer calling them out for 2080ti comparisons is clickbait material. Not that 2x 2080 is not misleading, but mentioning comparison with their latest, most powerful card outside of Titan drives more clicks.
 

UF_C

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Oct 25, 2017
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Digital Foundry isn't credible? Ok then....

To everyone else in the thread as a 1080ti owner running games at 1440p is it worth it to upgrade to a 3080 with a system with the following specs?:

Intel 8700k
32 gb ram
Are you me?

i have the same exact setup
 

Patitoloco

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah, I mean, I see that the review is Rich's doing, I meant more in general "Digital Foundry is awesome and does great work, all the crew as well!". In general, it doesn't matter if it's you, or Rich, or John, or Tom, whatever content you come up with is of extremely high quality, including this review.

Looking forward to your Flight Sim video later today!
 

ABK281

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I have a 6700K too... was there a specific review indicating it would be a significant bottleneck with the 3080? (I'd be upgrading from a 1070 fwiw.)
Just a guess, I don't know what games you play so it may depends, but I've already played multiple games where my 6700k has bottlenecked my 2070. With next gen games being optimized around 8c16t cpu's it's possible that even more games will start having issues on 4c8t cpu's. Too be fair, pretty much every game I've had CPU bottleneck issues with was a Ubisoft game, so take that for what it's worth.
 

TheOne

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Do people need to be reminded that the gap between the 1080Ti and the 2080 back in 2018 was next to nonexistent? Now we have an average gap of 30% when we compare the 2080Ti to the 3080. I'd say it's pretty damn alright in my book. Feels like the upgrade we were used to have with Nvidia, prior to the RTX2000 series.
 
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Just a guess, I don't know what games you play so it may depends, but I've already played multiple games where my 6700k has bottlenecked my 2070. With next gen games being optimized around 8c16t cpu's it's possible that even more games will start having issues on 4c8t cpu's. Too be fair, pretty much every game I've had CPU bottleneck issues with was a Ubisoft game, so take that for what it's worth.

Maybe?!?!? So far, there is no evidence of this fact, however.
 

Isee

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To everyone else in the thread as a 1080ti owner running games at 1440p is it worth it to upgrade to a 3080 with a system with the following specs?:

Performance wise? Of course.
Feature wise: Of course

But if its not super urgent: Maybe wait and see what happens next month. Maybe we'll get some super / Ti models with more memory or Nvidia needs to slightly adjust prices due to AMD.
Worst case scenario: You've lost a month, which might not be that problematic on a 1080Ti.
 

TheNerdyOne

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I cannot find that mention?

And no, your claims for RDNA2 bonkers performance increase without any real node decrease makes no sense at all.


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1x power consumption (same power) 10x fillrate (vs xbox one, OG, which was only 120w) so yeah, its either 180w or 120w, or they're talking gpu only power draw, either way my estimate is reasonable given that ;) i knew i saw it, and my point stands.
 
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First time I've ever seem power numbers on the XSX. Impressive if true. Maybe I will hold out slightly longer on the 3070 just to see what AMD is unveiling.



Also this. I don't take Jensen's word at value on anything. I'm going to need benchmarks before I truly believe what the 3070 is capable of.

Yeah I think I'm gonna hold to see if AMD really does have a 2080ti +50% caliber card with 16gb vram.
 

GearDraxon

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1. The 4k jump for those of us who stuck with 1080tis is pretty fantastic.
2. I forget, until threads like this, that there are hardware company fanboys, and they are just as bad as console/platform warriors.
 

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Open air test bench. He repeatedly said he didn't test inside a normal PC case.

Happens everytime and then people wonder why their cards are hotter/louder

And there are other reviews with different results available anyway

www.techpowerup.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Review - Must-Have for 4K Gamers

NVIDIA's new GeForce RTX 3080 "Ampere" Founders Edition is a truly impressive graphics card. It not only looks fantastic, performance is also better than even the RTX 2080 Ti. In our RTX 3080 Founders Edition review, we're also taking a close look at the new cooler, which runs quietly without...
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Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 FE im Test: Lautstärke, Temperatur, Leistungsaufnahme & OC

GeForce RTX 3080 FE im Test: Lautstärke, Temperatur, Leistungsaufnahme & OC / Lautstärke & Kühlung
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RCSI

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Hopefully Crysis 3 and other Cryengine issues Digital Foundry pointed out are resolved so we may see benchmarks on the 3080.

Overall, good uplift when moving from 1070 -> 3080.
 

WadeIt0ut

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I've been telling friends for a while that they should just hold out for the 3070. Most of them are 1440p gamers so the need for 3080s won't be there for a while.
 

plagiarize

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I mean, if we're getting technical. They compared it to the 2080 not the 2080ti. Any reviewer calling them out for 2080ti comparisons is clickbait material. Not that 2x 2080 is not misleading, but mentioning comparison with their latest, most powerful card outside of Titan drives more clicks.
They compared it to both. At least in the slides. I distinctly remember the one that even made a point of saying the 3070 was faster than the 2080 Ti.
 

LiK

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Not a single review I watched have complained about coil whine. They all said the fans were quiet.
 
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Actually, sorry, that was just meant to show the boost from architecture alone, looking at a power normalized result.

Here's OC vs OC.

RDR 4k: 25% improvement
R6S 4k: 14%
SOTTR 4k: 15%
Flight Sim 2020 4k: 10%
HZD 4k: 24%
Total War 3K 4k: 13%
DIV2 4k: 27%
GTA5 4k: 14%

This seems like a best case scenario for me with a 340w PL 2080TI if I decided to go with FE. Though I'd love to put the FE on water to help it even more.

Even OC vs. OC is not really apples to apples, until we see OC'ed benchmarks for the 3080 Strix/FTW and the like. The 2080 Ti Strix has a lot of things going for it that any reference card isn't going to have.
 

1-D_FE

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Oct 27, 2017
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The german article only went 15% or so down in the slider, maybe with this a bit more aggressive capping of the power it can be achieved.

The 3070 is only 225. So a 15% reduction would be around 190 watts. Which would be much nicer.

Gotta be careful, though, because if you make the card unstable, you can suffer in the 1%/.1% areas (even if the max framerate seems unaffected).
 
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Hmmmm..... benchmarks seem about what I figured, which are great for 10 series owners looking to upgrade.

Probably going to skip the 3080 at launch, since I'm coming from a 2080Ti and game mostly at 1440p. Granted, my monitor is Gsync and higher frames are always welcome with VR too but I haven't really run into any games outside of RTX heavy stuff like Control that have really made me feel the need for a new GPU.

Cause usually when I've upgraded my GPU in the past I need a concrete reason- upgrading from my 970 to a 1070, it was because I had gotten a 1440p Gsync monitor. Upgrading from my 1070 to a 2080Ti last year was because I wanted solid 60+ in more games and was doing a whole new build. Right now I don't have any games that my 2080Ti can't handle fine at 1440p. The big one coming up will be Cyberpunk of course, which is why I sprung for the 2080Ti in the first place, but I'll probably sit on the sidelines for the 30 series for now anyway.
 

inner-G

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Wow benchmarks seem underwhelming to me.

Barely a jump from 2080ti in games like RDR2 at 1440p?

Maybe I should wait a while...
 

OmegaDL50

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I think there is a bit of downplaying the RTX 3080 calling it a "mid-tier card" when the fact it's new Flagship card from Nvidia.

It sounds like trying setting a certain narrative to justify the stance in thinking the RTX 3080 upgrade over the RTX 2080 Ti is miniscule at best.

I suppose some will do what they feel is necessary to justify such a stance. Just don't expect to be taken seriously under any degree of scrutiny looking at the performance numbers with the RTX 3080 showing an average 20 to 30% improvement.
 

asmith906

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Oct 27, 2017
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I shouldn't be surprised about the tone here, it's to be expected.

Really liking the reviews so far, looks like a massive improvement at 4k from my own 1080Ti and might finally be the 4k60fps everywhere machine that I've wanted.

Skipping the 2000 series is looking better than ever.
Nvidia set expectations way too high
 

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The coil whine issue scares me, do all the samples suffers from it?

Coil whine is kind of a lottery
You can have a card that whines no matter, even at 60fps/lighter load, one that whines only at very high fps, one that whines with one PSU but not another..
Or a PSU that whines if paired with any power hungry GPU

Edit: or a card that doesn't suffer from it or barely of course
Personally if I have to stick my ear right next to the case's side panel to hear it I don't consider that coil whine
 
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This seems like a big upgrade from my current 1080. I'm still rocking the i7 7700k with a MSI Z270 mobo and a Corsair TX650M (650W) power supply. Do i need to upgrade the rest of my components?
Going from the 1000 series to the 3000 series is going to be the sweet spot and something I sorta envy. You should upgrade to a quality power supply of at least 750 watts.
 

Darktalon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Or you could not be an arse, and let someone else have the cards if you just cancel your pre-order? 🤷‍♀️
That's the same jerk who was saying that reviewers need nvidia and if they can't get reviews on time they can be replaced, and making a conspiracy that nvidia lied about why the review date was moved.

Zero surprise he's also a pos scalper.