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Azurik

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Hardware wise Only a 3090Ti would interest me as I'm currently on a 3090 suprim x.

Software wise more RT features and improved DLSS PQ would be nice
 
VideoCardz: "NVIDIA confirms it will showcase GeForce RTX 30 mobile GPUs on January 12"
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NVIDIA confirms it will showcase GeForce RTX 30 mobile GPUs on January 12 - VideoCardz.com

GeForce RTX: Game On – NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 mobile NVIDIA has just teased what will be shown during GeForce RTX: Game On event next week. The first two pictures that appeared in a video teaser shows a gaming laptop and GeForce RTX discrete graphics card in a mobile form factor. The exact GPU...
The first two pictures that appeared in a video teaser shows a gaming laptop and GeForce RTX discrete graphics card in a mobile form factor. It appears to be attached to Intel CPU with 8 (PCIe?) lanes. The exact GPU model appears to be GA104, which is rumored for RTX 3080 and RTX 3070 mobile series. Both cards will feature 8GB GDDR6 memory (hence 8 modules), however, the RTX 3080 Mobile will also be available with 16GB capacity.
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The teaser also briefly shows an upcoming game called Outriders (picture on the right below) developed by People Can Fly. The game will be released on April 1st, but a free demo will be released on February 25th. The teaser may indicate that the game will feature NVIDIA technology.

The picture on the left appears to show the GeForce RTX logo, which kind of looks like a side of a desktop reference Ampere graphics card. It is speculated that the RTX 3060 12GB might be shown at the event, so this could be a teaser of a Founders Edition card.
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX: Game On is an upcoming event that will go live on January 12 at 9 AM PST. It will be streamed on Twitch and YouTube.

 

dex3108

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Oct 26, 2017
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I hope that they will show more software this time. New version of DLSS or improved Nvidia Ansel or something like that.
 

Alvis

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Oct 25, 2017
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3080 Ti? Where does that even fit in with the current product lineup?

Midway between a 3080 and 3090?
There is a MASSIVE price gap between the 3080 and the 3090 so of course they can slot a new price bracket there.

The 3090 will continue to sell to the same public it sells to today: people who have fuck you money and don't give a crap and just want the very best GPU on the planet even if the difference is tiny and the price difference is massive
 

fade

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Oct 25, 2017
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There is a MASSIVE price gap between the 3080 and the 3090 so of course they can slot a new price bracket there.

The 3090 will continue to sell to the same public it sells to today: people who have fuck you money and don't give a crap and just want the very best GPU on the planet even if the difference is tiny and the price difference is massive

The 3090 is like $2k msrp now so they could just slot the ti in the $1500 bracket.
 

Black_Stride

Avenger
Oct 28, 2017
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Have they ever released this many different models?

Look at me saying "released" when they barely manufacture enough to meet demand.

Not even that long ago.

GT 1030
GTX 1050
GTX 1050Ti
GTX 1060
GTX 1060
GTX 1060 - there were multiple GTX 1060s

GTX 1070
GTX 1070Ti
GTX 1080
GTX 1080Ti
Titan X
Titan Xp


And if you were alive when PC gaming was really easy to get into.
The godly 6000 series....started with a 6200 upgraded to a 6800GS (Ultra).

GF 6100
GF 6150
GF 6200
GF 6500
GF 6600
GF 6600LE
GF 6600m
GF 6600GT
GF 6800KE
GF 6800LE
GF 6800XT
GF 6800
GF 6800GS <- The true got of that generation
GF 6800GTO
GF 6800GT
GF 6800Ultra

Yes alot of them are on the same chip just different memory configs and speeds and also the whole AGP/PCI/PCIe thing.
But they released all of these cards.
 

Wollan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Are laptop variations of RTX 30 cards publicly revealed yet?
A leaked laptop featuring Ryzen 5900H CPU (Zen 3) and RTX 30 from two days ago: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-R...4900HS-and-Intel-Core-i7-10875H.513882.0.html

Similarly this one:
www.notebookcheck.net

The Lenovo IdeaPad 5 Pro and 5i Pro are compelling media and light gaming machines with 2.5K 90/120Hz displays

While the Intel and AMD models share many of the same features, Lenovo uses the thermal headroom in the 16-inch IdeaPad 5 Pro to pair next-generation Ryzen and RTX chips. Users can switch between 60 Hz or higher 90 Hz (14-inch) and 120 Hz (16-inch) refresh rates on these 16:10 (2560 x 1600)...
 
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Maple

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Oct 27, 2017
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There is a MASSIVE price gap between the 3080 and the 3090 so of course they can slot a new price bracket there.

The 3090 will continue to sell to the same public it sells to today: people who have fuck you money and don't give a crap and just want the very best GPU on the planet even if the difference is tiny and the price difference is massive

But the price gap is much larger than the performance gap. 3090 has a ~15% performance advantage with a 115% increase in price.

There's a lot of room there in terms of pricing for additional cards, but not so much for performance. 3080 Ti would maybe occupy the $999 price point? That would still be 40% more expensive than the 3080 for maybe 8-10% better performance. It becomes hard to justify.

Unless the 3080 Ti/Super just replaces the 3080 at $699.
 

Spoit

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How much weaker are mobile chips compared to their equivalently named desktop versions, anyway?
 
Oct 29, 2017
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How much weaker are mobile chips compared to their equivalently named desktop versions, anyway?
Turing variants were close, but this time around they seem to be very different. Leaks suggest different amount of cuda cores, not just different clocks. May be they are different chips entirely that just get the same name for marketing reasons.
 

dgrdsv

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Oct 25, 2017
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But the price gap is much larger than the performance gap. 3090 has a ~15% performance advantage with a 115% increase in price.

There's a lot of room there in terms of pricing for additional cards, but not so much for performance. 3080 Ti would maybe occupy the $999 price point? That would still be 40% more expensive than the 3080 for maybe 8-10% better performance. It becomes hard to justify.

Unless the 3080 Ti/Super just replaces the 3080 at $699.
3080Ti will basically be a 3080 with 20GBs of VRAM. There are those weird people who will pay $1200 for that apparently.
 

Flandy

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Oct 25, 2017
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But the price gap is much larger than the performance gap. 3090 has a ~15% performance advantage with a 115% increase in price.

There's a lot of room there in terms of pricing for additional cards, but not so much for performance. 3080 Ti would maybe occupy the $999 price point? That would still be 40% more expensive than the 3080 for maybe 8-10% better performance. It becomes hard to justify.

Unless the 3080 Ti/Super just replaces the 3080 at $699.
Wouldn't the 3080Ti probably be like 1199 now with the tariffs increasing GPU prices recently?
 

Ra

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Oct 27, 2017
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How much weaker are mobile chips compared to their equivalently named desktop versions, anyway?
RTX 3080 Mobile is allegedly a full GA104 with more CUDA cores than the RTX 3070.

So we are back to the pre-Pascal days, where mobile chips are completely different than the desktop variants.
 

dgrdsv

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Oct 25, 2017
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So we are back to the pre-Pascal days, where mobile chips are completely different than the desktop variants.
Well, 780 was the last "x80" card based on the top die of the lineup so there's that.
980 was GM204, 1080 was GP104, 2080 was TU104 and 3080 is GA102 now again.
GA102 isn't a good fit for a notebook as its power consumption is quite a bit higher than what is possible in the mobile form factor. Just like TU102 and GP102 previously.
 

Serious Sam

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Oct 27, 2017
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3080Ti will basically be a 3080 with 20GBs of VRAM. There are those weird people who will pay $1200 for that apparently.
Stop spreading FUD about 3080Ti. It will be near identical performance to 3090, which means up to 25% better framerates in demanding 4K gaming.

And it's funny you keep baiting people who are waiting for 3080Ti, when you bought your 3080 at the worst possible time at scalper prices. I sense some buyers remorse going on and constant need for affirmation. You bought 3080 for 3080Ti price, now you are playing down 3080Ti in your mind that it's going to be identical to 3080, when there is no realistic scenario of that ever becoming true.

Good things comes to those who wait, always. It's especially true in computer word.
 

dgrdsv

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Oct 25, 2017
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Stop spreading FUD about 3080Ti. It will be near identical performance to 3090, which means up to 25% better framerates in demanding 4K gaming.
FUD here is "up to 25% better framerates" since the actual average figure is 115% for 3090 which means that it will likely be about 110% for 3080Ti at best.

And it's funny you keep baiting people who are waiting for 3080Ti
I'm not "baiting" anyone, I'm saying what I think. Funny that you see that as a bait.

when you bought your 3080 at the worst possible time at scalper prices
I've bought a 3080 Strix OC for a price which is highly likely to remain so locally for at least a year from now.
Current prices on the same card here are 25% higher than that which I've bought it at.
You were saying?

You bought 3080 for 3080Ti price
3080 Ti price will likely be about 50% higher than what I've bought my 3080 for.
You're the one spreading FUD right now.

now you are playing down 3080Ti in your mind that it's going to be identical to 3080
Yeah, 3080Ti FE will probably be nearly identical to my 3080 Strix OC in gaming performance.
And even comparing FE to FE +10% of performance isn't something anyone should be paying +50% in price.

when there is no realistic scenario of that ever becoming true
Yes, there is.

Good things comes to those who wait, always.
Those who wait for the next generation of GPUs (not refresh) while having what is the best price/perf product in its market niche. Which is 3080 at the moment - and it will most likely remain so after 3080Ti launch.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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Stop spreading FUD about 3080Ti. It will be near identical performance to 3090, which means up to 25% better framerates in demanding 4K gaming.

And it's funny you keep baiting people who are waiting for 3080Ti, when you bought your 3080 at the worst possible time at scalper prices. I sense some buyers remorse going on and constant need for affirmation. You bought 3080 for 3080Ti price, now you are playing down 3080Ti in your mind that it's going to be identical to 3080, when there is no realistic scenario of that ever becoming true.

Good things comes to those who wait, always. It's especially true in computer word.

A cursory glance at some YT videos comparing 3080 and 3090 performance at 4K shows about a 10% difference on average. Even if the 3080 Ti ends up performing identically to the 3090, the 3080 would still clearly be the point where spending any more makes very little sense unless you need more VRAM for non-gaming tasks.
 

Spoit

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Oct 28, 2017
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A cursory glance at some YT videos comparing 3080 and 3090 performance at 4K shows about a 10% difference on average. Even if the 3080 Ti ends up performing identically to the 3090, the 3080 would still clearly be the point where spending any more makes very little sense unless you need more VRAM for non-gaming tasks.
Yeah, I could see (but still disagree with) the usual VRAM FUD, but even in the best case scenario, the 3090 really isn't that much of an improvment over the 3080 in terms of computational power. Like the only game that it actually makes a real difference is cyberpunk, because the 3080 is just a bit on the wrong margin of being playable there
 

Ra

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Well, 780 was the last "x80" card based on the top die of the lineup so there's that.
980 was GM204, 1080 was GP104, 2080 was TU104 and 3080 is GA102 now again.
GA102 isn't a good fit for a notebook as its power consumption is quite a bit higher than what is possible in the mobile form factor. Just like TU102 and GP102 previously.
I understand the "why" of it, yes.
 

Serious Sam

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Oct 27, 2017
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Nvidia spent nearly a decade building x80Ti brand. Nvidia knows what people expect from this top of the line card that sits just below halo Titan product. Customers know what they want from these cards. Making unfounded, uneducated claims that 3080Ti will be just 3080 with 20GB VRAM is absurd. If there was such a card it would just be called 3080 20GB.

So 2 things can realistically happen:
3080Ti is released soon and is pretty much on par with 3090 (as per rumors). $999 for FE, a bit more for AIB cards.
3080Ti doesn't happen and Nvidia simply release 3080 SUPER refresh card that is better than 3090 at the end of summer.

Although apparently this product event is only for laptop GPUs so this is getting a bit offtopic.
 

Spoit

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Oct 28, 2017
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WIth the way tariffs are right now, the $1k dream is dead. Some normal 3080 SKUs are already reaching that price point
 

Veliladon

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've been waiting to see what a 20GB 3080 Ti will do but with the tariffs I don't see myself buying anything until that's all resolved.
 

Helix

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So the new Switch will be shown here? Lol

the fabled switch pro yes!

nintendo is tired of hearing "switch is last gen and is a less powerful console" bullshit and decided to make the most powerful console in the market

my uncle works in Nintendo, do not question my credibility!