Right, but I assumed the explicit mention of the 10 series and 20 series served to indicate the breadth of GPU support.
Ah, yeah, that's probably the case.
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Nvidia admitting defeat for Gsync? Limited support for FreeSync announced
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Right, but I assumed the explicit mention of the 10 series and 20 series served to indicate the breadth of GPU support.
Ah, yeah, that's probably the case.
Generally the hardware is more capable (i.e. larger frequency ranges, better pixel switching times across all color transitions).
But given that VRR is more and more shipped "for free" in some hardware, it's obviously nice to be able to use that (even if the capabilities are more limited) on NV GPUs as well.
I personally own a Samsung monitor with VRR, curious to see if that will work.
Yeah, that's some grade school level editorializing.
It is the other way around. A Nvidia card now will support G-Sync and Freesync (if enabled in the driver settings)
This is a a bit incorrect. Freesync did work with LFR, you just needed a panel that supported it. G-sync was a lot more rigid as a spec than Freesync 1.
Labelling on Freesync could be chaotic, but there is no reason a person should have needed a more expensive panel if they only cared about VRR in the range of 40-60hz.
Eventually, AFAIK the current Nvidia GPUs don't support hdmi 2.1. Perhaps they might through firmware updates?
The repeated bloviating about how few pass their rigorous standards is almost certainly a way for Nvidia to suggest "yes, VRR works for Nvidia GPU's without a Gsync module now, but in just our humble opinion almost of those screens are dookie compared to ours. A lower class of screen!" Regardless, I'm happy they're finally budging on the issue. It really rubbed me the wrong way that once you buy a Gsync monitor, you're basically committing to Nvidia for the life of the monitor (not that AMD has made convincing strides to pull people over to them yet).
Gsync really needs to die. Thankfully Intel's dGPUs coming in 2020 will put another nail in the coffin of charging huge premiums for something your competitors offer for free.
VRR enabled 2018 Samsung TVs don't have HDMI 2.1. It works on HDMI 2.0 and this has nothing to do with HDMI 2.1.
"Freesync" is an AMD marketing name for VRR. Complaining that Nvidia is not using it is like complaining about AMD not saying that their CPUs have "Hyperthreading" (which is an Intel marketing name for SMT).
Thank you. I was joking around which I already mentioned some comments above. Next time I do a better job to make that visible to the reader.
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Yeah, but judging by the number of people excited to be able to use a cheaper option for VRR with their Nvidia cards, the magnitude of the difference in panel quality (of all Freesync monitors, not just the Nvidia select) compared to Gsync is not enough to support the Gsync price hike. With Nvidia opening the floodgates to satisfactory, lower price alternatives that don't lock you into buying Nvidia products in the future they need to either actively play up their brand or downplay the quality of the alternative. That was what I was suggesting they were doing.
YES!!!
I was already far too disappointed when it appeared that Freesync was active on NVIDIA cards a few months ago but it happened to be a mistake by a reporter.
I constantly juggle between 50, 60 and 75 hz in order to have everything at a stable refresh rate and it's annoying to manually change that every time.
I was already far too disappointed when it appeared that Freesync was active on NVIDIA cards a few months ago but it happened to be a mistake by a reporter.
I constantly juggle between 50, 60 and 75 hz in order to have everything at a stable refresh rate and it's annoying to manually change that every time.
I believe one of the big differences is that GSYNC monitors have more optimal pixel response times for dynamic refresh times, whereas freesync has it only optimized for the maximum refresh rate.
(not sure though, might be a monitor specific thing)
whoops double post, sry
Hm that monitor isn't supported straight away right? At least not in the OP.
Huh, how does that work? Like manual activation? Would it work in all FreeSync monitors?
Freesync is not a standard. So what any monitor supports for variable refresh rates is completely up to the manufacturer. If the driver isn't somehow able to be aware of the refresh rate limitations of a specific monitor there may be technical issues when the driver tries to drive the display out of it's range.
You will have an option to toggle it on with any async monitor via drivers. As for the testing, I'll quote another nvidia page that was just put up.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/g-sync-ces-2019-announcements/
According to their press release, yeah:
Support for G-SYNC Compatible monitors will begin Jan. 15 with the launch of our first 2019 Game Ready driver. Already, 12 monitors have been validated as G-SYNC Compatible (from the 400 we have tested so far). We'll continue to test monitors and update our support list. For gamers who have monitors that we have not yet tested, or that have failed validation, we'll give you an option to manually enable VRR, too.
As a G-Sync display owner I welcome having the option to choose Freesync if a suitable monitor comes along. G-Sync displays have had a pretty narrow selection for years. The G-Sync module has some benefits such as being guaranteed to work as Nvidia envisioned and it also had the Ultra Low Motion Blur mode which strobes the backlight at 120 Hz for CRT-like motion clarity that I liked using for fast paced games where I have 60+ framerates at all times. Unfortunately the ULMB mode seems to be going the way of the dodo.
We are one step closer to getting back to a world where we don't have to choose displays and/or GPUs based on support for specific variable refresh rate tech and that is great for everyone.
OOoooh nice. I bought a nice monitor for a very fair price on Black Friday, which has Freesync but I have a GTX 970.
Well that's nice news, now I just wait for 4k HDR VRR monitors to go below 400€ and I have a new monitor :D
I remember saying Nvidia had to do exactly this, and people laughing in this forum because Gsync is superior with better hardware standards. Just pathetic.
Curious if limiting the refresh rate with vsync off will completely get rid of tearing once the drivers are out. Nvidia say that monitors with small windows of vrr are out there but I ain't interested in dropping from 40 to 144 or anything, I just would choose settings to minimise the 1 percent lows.
Why would you ? Their G-Sync monitor has likely a wider range of frequencies.
Great news. now when i buy an HDR TV i wont have to sacrifice VRR for it
you shouldnt. they had all the information available to them that suggested waiting was probably a better option
you shouldnt. they had all the information available to them that suggested waiting was probably a better option
That's great news. Although my XPS 15 don't support VRR (on account of having switchable graphics between i-/dgpu), having more options for GPUs for my Core X eGPU is very nice as I bough a Q series TV partly because of the Freesync support.
So G-sync could work on TVs that support VRR too? My husband prefers playing on a 4k TV for his monitor, but we are in need of a new TV, so I was thinking it could be a good idea to swap out his current one for a VRR supporting one. His 1060 isn't quite enough for performance at high resolution, so this would definitely help.