Persona 5 did neither of those things and seemed to do alright outside of Japan.
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Persona 5 did neither of those things and seemed to do alright outside of Japan.
Man, I can stand those NBA 2K games and the shit they pull. I hate seeing them rewarded like this.
2nd one is just not gonna happen, Horii has said that on multiple occasions. considering the majority of sales for DQ come from japan, it'd be beyond idiotic to fundamentally change the game, piss off the audience that actually buys the games in millions, in order to chase a potential rise in sales that may never come.
i think as far as SE and Horii are concerned, sales outside of japan are just a bonus. that's why they don't even bother publishing the games most of the time and leave it to nintendo. they're not gonna change anything based on western performance.
Lmao almost spilled my coffee!
But yeah, always these games are going to top sales charts. Sad.
This is pretty bad for a first party release day 1 on GP. Older games used to stay in top 10 most played 360 titles for year after its release. At this point i'm hoping The Coalition get more freedom and do a new IP for Scarlett.
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These sports games have a massive casual audience that probably doesn't even know or care to know what "micro-transaction" means, they just want their yearly basketball/football/americanfootball fix
The point of giving away so many cheap subs is to have millions of subs day one for Scarlett. They already have a few million subs right now and they don't even have many first party games out.
And Microsoft is one of the wealthiest companies in the world. They're not going to just disappear if things don't work out for them, but it will because they have money to burn.
I'll be surprised if they aren't at double digit millions by launch of project Scarlett
Yeah, Nintendo pushed it hard in their Directs and I remember the buzz a few months ago about how DQXIS was going to be the entry/version to finally be the breakout success in the West. It's flopped like a mofo though and now we'll have to beg SE for XII.
How do you feel about FIFA then? Both are exploitive to a high degree.
I'll be buying it over the holidays just so I can play as my favorite team. I don't care about career modes and all that other card shit so they won't get any extra money from me.
You'll take your $60 Definitively Definitive PS5 Edition and you'll like it.
The exact same stuff was said about vanilla DQXI. It didn't happen in either case, but people set the expectation of DQXIS outselling the original version which ended up WAY overambitious.
Sure they do. Porting that content back over to the PS4 and PC is time and money spent. If the Switch version really bombed that badly, what point is there to do a mulligan for a version that's likely to do even worse? At the very least the game seems to have performed decently in Europe.
D:OS 2, W3 and Ori are all late ports too. What's the difference with DQ11S?
Nintendo might have contributed to whatever license fee Sugiyama wanted for the Orchestral soundtrack but everything else will have just been to justify a new release in Japan, where it was 2 years late.
Just guessing. I don't see any other reason not to add them to PC and ps4
Don't see how that would stop SE from updating other versions with extra content. Even if it's a paid dlc
Nope. I can guarentee you it is not.
Hopefully Square will give us some insight soon.
the excuse is not spending time and money on a year old (two year old in japan) release. a free update makes no sense and if you think 11S is doing bad, just how good do you think paid DLC for a year old JRPG would do?
Maybe if DQXI came out the same month as the switch and was marketed as a release title, it would've gotten more recognition?
I bought the PS4 version and while loving it, XI was definitely old school and very basic to speak. It was my first DQ game so I went in knowing nothing of the franchise but the combat was a slow boring experience with no personality. Persona 5, especially, and even Pokemon presents it turn-based combat way better. I don't think it needs to be an action rpg.
The music was also bad but I don't think that was a driving factor in its sales. However, Persona 5 music made people catch on and help market it. I don't how but DQ does need to do SOMETHING to appeal bigger outside Japan.
I definitely wasn't double dipping for extra content. I said I liked the game but honestly, I don't see myself replaying it. It drags sometimes and while I don' mind long games, this certain one just did not want to end. Plus I hate the direction of the story in the last part of it.
I bought the PS4 version and while loving it, XI was definitely old school and very basic to speak. It was my first DQ game so I went in knowing nothing of the franchise but the combat was a slow boring experience with no personality. Persona 5, especially, and even Pokemon presents it turn-based combat way better. I don't think it needs to be an action rpg.
The music was also bad but I don't think that was a driving factor in its sales. However, Persona 5 music made people catch on and help market it. I don't how but DQ does need to do SOMETHING to appeal bigger outside Japan.
I definitely wasn't double dipping for extra content. I said I liked the game but honestly, I don't see myself replaying it. It drags sometimes and while I don' mind long games, this certain one just did not want to end. Plus I hate the direction of the story in the last part of it.
the fact that it's so high when you could get a game pass sub for less than a cup of coffee is actually pretty impressive
Who said anything about paid? I certainly wouldn't pay for the extras.
Also no digital included for the Switch release.
Where did we get the 40% figure ?
Or maybe it's good but it doesn't reasonate very well with the US and EU market.
Gears 5 is bundled with new Xbox One consoles, probably explains a bit.
It matters close to zero anyway.
The game is a multimillion seller in Japan, and the rest of the world combined doesn't even add up to 1 million.
Whatever is next for DQ is gonna be based around the Japanese market. The IP has no market relevance in the west and it will never have unless it changes drastically at the risk of losing the Japanese audience.
Yea. I double dipped, mainly because I wanted the extra features but most of my other friends who play JRPGs decided it wasnt worth paying full price for a game they had already played. I definitely enjoyed it on the Switch and its helping me introduce JRPGs to my GF (along with Ni no Kuni). The ridiculous things is that people are begging for a P5 port and I think it would be much the same.
People aint buying DQ11 because people have played it already. I mean its not a good look when you dont even patch the older versions of the games up to date.
This definitive version is definitely the one everyone should play, but they should have released it all together at once on all consoles to begin with.
I wish we would have gotten some insight into Zelda: LA sales performance in comparison to other Zeldas and where it ranks in total Switch Software sales for 2019.
why would they add so much to the version that's done selling for free, and make the new full price version less attractive?
It's a linear JRPG and a lot of the new content is in the middle section of the game, and can't be easily accessed.
Even outside of that releasing paid DLC for a single player game after so long is unlikely to be financially viable.
I'm not sure where the extra sales will come from, in the European markets we're seeing it debuting in the region of 50-70% of the PS4 version. US sales likely similar but look worse due to the tracking period and inclusion/exclusion of digital.
Relative to the original release that kind of performance is fine but definitely not what people were hoping for.
No difference, just that there are a lot of games that released close to each other, two of them being big time consuming RPG's.
Also people are not buying DQXIS because it released shortly after Zelda. They're the same target group and that target group always prefers Zelda. It doesn't imo have anything to do with the art style, and only a bit with it being a port.
There's a really, really, really simple answer to why DQXIS isn't performing better.
It was the same answer for every major DQ release in the west since DQVIII.
The franchise just isn't appealing to the masses.
Look in your heart, you know it to be true.
It was the same answer for every major DQ release in the west since DQVIII.
The franchise just isn't appealing to the masses.
Look in your heart, you know it to be true.
50%-75% in Europe yes but DQXI launched on a Tuesday on PS4 and on a Friday on Switch (so 5-6 days trackes vs 2-3). Launch looks to be about on par there. Legs will determine the gap.
Saying that S outselling XI on PS4 is waaay overambitious is an exageration given the data we have.
My expectation was around 1m-1.5m WW and I am still feeling very confident about it.