This is US only. Which game sold 26 million in the US this year?
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Microsoft should have launched the Series S Later in europe .
I hear its sold out in the U.S. but its available in every shop i enter here
I hear its sold out in the U.S. but its available in every shop i enter here
Both companies are constrained by the pandemic. If there wasn't a pandemic I would believe that we could have seen a 1.5 to 2 million consoles sold from both parties.
Momentum for Xbox has been downwards since X1, don't let the Forum bubble make you think otherwise.
that's what you got from this? lol. Wear a better costume.
A lot of armchair marketing analysts here thought they were screwing up all year long.
All consoles in the US were sold out. They launched in more countries than they did with Xbox one. Supply had to cover for those countries too.
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Xbox Game Pass subscribers jump 50 percent to 15 million in less than six months
It’s another sign that Microsoft’s Game Pass bet is starting to pay off.
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Remember this is before the launch. These are the last official numbers from September
Catching up.
Looks like them waiting to manufacture later in summer constrained available hw alot.
From what I have seen here with reports it seems that Sony and Microsoft are essentially both going about 80/20 in terms of physical/digital.
Of course when you add in the thirst for ps5 and how everything is instantly selling out, that 20% allocation seemed a lot smaller, especially since it seems the series s was a little slower selling out compared to the series X.
Microsoft are NEVER going to sell more hardware units than Sony, regardless of the excuses made. They could have unlimited supply of units available for demand and it still wouldn't. They could buy Japanese developers, and keep buying third party publishers but it still won't make them sell more units.
Sony just has more mind share in certain markets, it's the equivalent of Apple where there are people that just won't entertain anything but Apple. Google or Samsung could give free things away, have better hardware but it doesn't matter. There are people that will only entertain Playstation.
In saying that, that's the reason Sony get arrogant, and it can hurt them, just look at what happened at PS3 launch....
I also don't really think Microsoft care about hardware units sold, they care more about subscriptions and getting people into the Xbox ecosystem regardless of whether that's PC, an Xbox or streaming on Xcloud.
Sony just has more mind share in certain markets, it's the equivalent of Apple where there are people that just won't entertain anything but Apple. Google or Samsung could give free things away, have better hardware but it doesn't matter. There are people that will only entertain Playstation.
In saying that, that's the reason Sony get arrogant, and it can hurt them, just look at what happened at PS3 launch....
I also don't really think Microsoft care about hardware units sold, they care more about subscriptions and getting people into the Xbox ecosystem regardless of whether that's PC, an Xbox or streaming on Xcloud.
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It will be interesting to see how this plays out after the supply catches up. I know some think they kill the unit ala the 20GB PS3, but i don't think so.
Having an available cheaper unit to match up with the Series S is still a good idea, IMO. "$100 more and you get a PS5!"
Yeah. That and trying to meet demand on a wider scale in more countries.
Xbox Game Pass subscribers jump 50 percent to 15 million in less than six months
It’s another sign that Microsoft’s Game Pass bet is starting to pay off.
Remember this is before the launch. These are the last official numbers from September
Those arent segregated between console and PC .... PC gamepass was dirt cheap and many jumped on it.
For all those great gamepass numbers, console sales didnt increase. Those number werent driven by new console owners.
Those gamepass numbers supposedly pointing to growth in Xbox is a myth and factually incorrect.
Come on. This is a console launch. If there were more Xboxes in the US at launch than PS5s, then Xbox would have outsold it. If there would more Xboxes worldwide, than the PS5, it would have outsold it. This is production runs and supply during the first 3 months of a highly anticipated launch.
Why would the Switch drop, it's a compelling piece of hardware, the hybrid function sets it apart from ps5 and xbox.
Switch has been killing it all year round.
I think it is comparable to the 20 gig PS3, and I don't expect it to stick around in meaningful quantities.
There is a $100 gap between the DE and the Disc based unit. The drive itself does not cost $100 or anywhere close to it. you're talking 10 bucks in build cost, if that for a BRD.
So if Sony is selling the DE for that much less than the Disc Based unit, either the Disc Based PS5 has a TON of margin built into it (which isn't likely at all given the Series X is sold for the same cost) or they're taking a hit on the DE in order to come in at $399 for marketing purposes- which is exactly what they did with the 20 gig PS3.
Just stop..... I was asked to show an increase of Gamepass numbers, not about console sales
You can't sell more than you can make, and also with a larger global launch of course there is a chance with less units allocated due to later production and pandemic
They also sold more in unit sales. Please tell you're not talking about Nov, and at least read the fucking title.
To clarify I was talking in general, over the course of the gen. I agree that sales numbers at this point in time don't really reflect accurate sales as it's limited by supply for Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony.
The Xbox One gen really, really hurt the Xbox brand. They have a lot of work ahead of them, but they're in a good position to regain some momentum. Hard to overstate how monumental the Halo delay was for this year, it really is a very bad stumble out of the gate. I imagine the Series X would've done MUCH better if it had Halo, or frankly any killer next-gen game at all.
More WW markets, less units available US allocated/manufactured compared to XB1 debut
Yeah, here in Spain you can find piles of Series S in physical stores.
I would agree with you completely...if the Series S didn't exist. Since it does, I think the DE has a story and a reason for existing beyond launch.
I admit I'm biased though. I bought a DE, not due to price, but because I love the way it looks and would never use the drive anyway, so it was a no brainer for me. A disc drive in a 2020 console just felt off to me, so I was happy to have the option.
Cause npd is US only. Means that Microsoft made up for it in other countries going up
Except that buying DE forces you to buy digital games, where Sony has a 30% margin.
Probably just supply constraints. At least that's what I hope for them.
Personally I very much hope Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo keep consistently fucking up at least once every couple of gens, failure does these titans and the industry way more good than harm.
How did you come to the conclusion that it debuting lower than the X1 in the US is due to a lack of interest if it is sold out?
Also, if interest in Xbox was lower than X1 why did it have a better global launch?
You're being deliberately and obviously obtuse.
Series X/S sold more than the Xbox One did at launch, Worldwide.
Series X/S sold less than the Xbox One did at launch, in the US.
The Xbox One launched in 13 Counties.
The Xbox Series X/S launched in 37 Countries.
All these statements are true. How could that be? How many were made, and where they were disturbed.
The One launched in 13 countries, the Series consoles launched in 40 even if they made the same amount of consoles there would be less per market considering the gap.
Well, I mean, there are quite a few games taking advantage of PS5 - the fact they also exist on PS4 does not negate that. I'd say the launch lineup is great, I don't see how having these games on the previous gen makes it worse.
The 20 Gig PS3 also existed beyond launch. I think it was technically in production until April of 2007, so about 6 months.
I don't think the Series S is going to sell very much at all, honestly. That system ALSO exists as a marketing stunt by MS to have an Xbox that would severely undercut Sony at launch to attract the casual audience "but still play next gen games". From what we can see of EU sales that didn't seem to work, there ARE no "next gen exclusives" on the Series S vs. the Xbox One, and we are already beginning to see significant performance gaps in cross gen software between the X and S, which MS swore wouldn't happen.
I give it about a year before both the Series S and the DE are basically phased out units. Neither company is going to want to spend a lot of money or effort manufacturing those. Sony because they are clearly losing their shirts selling them at $399, Microsoft because the Series S simply isn't going to be moving many or any units given the state of the market.
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