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NPD - PS5 achieved the highest launch month unit and dollar sales for a video game hardware platform in U.S. history

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Elandyll said:
I think he meant "Next gen" exclusive, but even then, there are two (great ones): Astrobot and DeS.
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Yup. The reality is, most games people are playing on their new consoles can be played on PS4/XBO.

You don't need to explain the appeal of a new console to me, I post on a gaming forum. But "system seller", "killer app" are terms that exist for a reason. You used to need... well, "system selling" exclusives to move consoles, and looking at the NPD data we know Demon's Souls is not what is moving PS5 systems.
 
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entremet said:
It's been 7 years.

People are tired of the PS4.

This site has folks with their NES still hooked up lol. It does not reflect the mainstream. Most people want the new and shiny. And that's not a bad thing. That why generations exist in the CE world.
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Most people in the site knew what was going to happen. It's a very very small minority of people even on here that thought it was not going to be the case
 
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Bobbyleejones said:
Do we know if the NPD will have any sort of numbers for xbox or does Microsoft still keeps those numbers behind closed doors
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Normally NPD has more accurate Xbox numbers (sold to consumer, so sold-through) than Microsoft does, so yeah they do. They just never publish those numbers anymore, just like they're not mentioning the amount of units PS5 or Switch sold.
 
Elandyll

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Welfare said:
It's due to supply and starting production late. Xbox also launched in 3x the countries (40 vs 13) to XB1 in 2013.

Worldwide launch was higher than XB1 yet US is lower. There simply weren't any more units that could be sold.
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If we look at Spain (and possibly other countries), there does not seem to be a marked higher interest than for XB1 though.
As for being -actually- sold out, depends if you believe their reporting.
We all know what happened back in 2013 and Mehdi declaring they were "sold out at retailers around the world", while day 1 XB1 units were stacked high in warehouses.

There is a sort of history here...
 
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Swift_Gamer said:
Gamepass is really having trouble getting people into the Xbox ecosystem, huh? MS should rethink their strategy.
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Both consoles sold out, so all this data really tells us is how many next-gen systems both platforms were able to manufacture and allocate to the US.
 
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Bishop89 said:
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Can we please have an updated version of this?
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😂 This meme needs an update.


X Series S|X debuting lower than XB1 isn't surprising given MS' exclusive woes. Not launching with Halo hurt them for sure but at least the system sold out.
 
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Elandyll said:
If we look at Spain (and possibly other countries), there does not seem to be a marked higher interest than for XB1 though.
As for being -actually- sold out, depends if you believe their reporting.
We all know what happened back in 2013 and Mehdi declaring they were "sold out at retailers around the world", while day 1 XB1 units were stacked high in warehouses.

There is a sort of history here...
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Uh we know it's sold out. Every country reported sellouts in November and it's not any easier this close to Christmas.

And Spain the Series X sold out, hell even Japan was sold out.
 
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RM8 said:
Yup. The reality is, most games people are playing on their new consoles can be played on PS4/XBO.

You don't need to explain the appeal of a new console to me, I post on a gaming forum. But "system seller", "killer app" are terms that exist for a reason. You used to need... well, "system selling" exclusives to move consoles, and looking at the NPD data we know Demon's Souls is not what is moving PS5 systems.
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Lol. What?
 
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Damn, Xbox really didn't have many consoles for launch did they if it sold less than Xbox One. Must have entered into production late?

This is cool and all, but doesn't mean much when every single ps5 and Xbox is sold out literally everywhere.
 
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As expected for PS5! Happy to have gotten one! Switch will remain a monster for a long time. Hoping for a pro model soon still!

Series S/X lower than X1 though??? Is that combined or individually? Because wow...

Edit: Ahh supply constraints. I see.
 

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metal said:
Damn, Xbox really didn't have many consoles for launch did they if it sold less than Xbox One. Must have entered into production late?

This is cool and all, but doesn't mean much when every single ps5 and Xbox is sold out literally everywhere.
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It tells us that Sony did a much better job with producing consoles.
 
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Manmademan said:
exactly. The effective price of the PS5 was $499, since that $399 unit is rare as hell. Outselling the PS4 in units at a price point $100 past it *during a pandemic and record unemployment* is very impressive.
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Is the mix still 80/20 physical/digital or was that just for the initial preorders?

I love my DE and I'm glad I was able to secure one at launch.
 
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FIREKNIGHT2029 said:
😂 This meme needs an update.


X Series S|X debuting lower than XB1 isn't surprising given MS' exclusive woes. Not launching with Halo hurt them for sure but at least the system sold out.
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Japanmanx3 said:
As expected for PS5! Happy to have gotten one! Switch will remain a monster for a long time. Hoping for a pro model soon still!

Series S/X lower than X1 though??? Is that combined or individually? Because wow...
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We don't know if anything has hurt Xbox because it's completely sold out everywhere. All we know is they didn't have enough made to meet demand, that's it.

Even ps5 would have done better if the supply could meet demand.
 
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Tobor said:
Is the mix still 80/20 physical/digital or was that just for the initial preorders?

I love my DE and I'm glad I was able to secure one at launch.
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Not sure, I haven't seen any official figures. All I recall from the launch night threads were people constantly checking stock checkers and finding zero DE's anywhere. It was all disc versions. The DE's seemed to be coming mostly from Sony Direct.
 
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Thiago said:
What do you mean?
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There are some important instances why the xbox series consoles were considerably less. It launched it more countries (40 vs 13) and it had began production much later compared to Sony

This is not anything against the sources, as their tweets tell the full story. It is the posts by users
 
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I would have thought that Microsoft would have launched this generation stronger than XB1, at least in the US, regardless of the pandemic honestly. Especially considering how they were the ones being praises every step of the way, until they showed Halo at least...

A little surprising to me, but congrats to Sony on a great launch in awkward times for this stuff. I suspect Microsoft will gain momentum with each passing quarter, as their first party studios ramp up and start delivering.
 
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Wasn't there a leak posted a while back that Sony bought significantly more wafers from TSMC? Surely that explains the difference.
 
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Manmademan said:
Not sure, I haven't seen any official figures. All I recall from the launch night threads were people constantly checking stock checkers and finding zero DE's anywhere. It was all disc versions. The DE's seemed to be coming mostly from Sony Direct.
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The numbers we were hearing from retailers during the initial preorders were definitely an 80/20 mix, but I haven't heard anything since.
 
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HeWhoWalks said:
I think it can take the PS4, but not the PS2. Of course, we'll need to watch trajectory, but it will outsell its closest competition quite handily and be another 100+ million seller for Sony.
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I think aside from it being a far better console than the PS4 was, we live in a very different world nowadays which changes things.

People go out far less (they can't do things they used to) and they're looking for new things to do, which will also have a massive effect on sales.

I'm sure it's also helped game sales. For me personally I've spent more on games than I normally would have as I have less to do, and more disposable income.
 
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Elandyll said:
If we look at Spain (and possibly other countries), there does not seem to be a marked higher interest than for XB1 though.
As for being -actually- sold out, depends if you believe their reporting.
We all know what happened back in 2013 and Mehdi declaring they were "sold out at retailers around the world", while day 1 XB1 units were stacked high in warehouses.

There is a sort of history here...
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They sell more than XBO in Germany,France,UK (biggest EU market) with limited stock.

I think that by the next 3-4 NPD we will be able to see if it was only a question of really limited stock or the demand is less stronger than the One in US.
 

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Elandyll said:
If we look at Spain (and possibly other countries), there does not seem to be a marked higher interest than for XB1 though.
As for being -actually- sold out, depends if you believe their reporting.
We all know what happened back in 2013 and Mehdi declaring they were "sold out at retailers around the world", while day 1 XB1 units were stacked high in warehouses.

There is a sort of history here...
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In Portugal Xbox Series is complete sold out. PS5 and Xbox never been in a store shell.
 

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Good for them. I wish I had the time to revisit every "it's x months until Q4 and we still don't have a date/price" or "it's x days until launch and we still haven't seen the UI/NBA 2K/the console's butthole" concern thread and post these numbers.
 
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Bobbyleejones said:
Let me think....... the pandemic
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Could be...yet the PS5 sold more units than the PS4 did under the same 'pandemic' circumstances.

The Main Event said:
Euuuh, didn't Microsoft stated that it was their most successful debut in history? lol
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They did, they managed that by releasing in more countries this time around. The Xbox One launched in a lot of countries almost a year later. So in theory the Xbox Series X/S sold more units in it's launch week while selling less units in each country, one of which is the US.

Since both the Xbox One and Xbox Series X/S launch all units were/are sold-out, it's hard to say how good Xbox Series is performing (the same goes for PS5). The next few months will paint a clearer picture.
 
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Tobor said:
The numbers we were hearing from retailers during the initial preorders were definitely an 80/20 mix, but I haven't heard anything since.
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Yep. I recall that. But hitting the actual hardware allocation for launch day? it was 100/0. Nobody was finding any DE's at all, while there were hundreds of disc units stocked per store at places like Target.

So if the preorder allocation was 80/20, the TOTAL allocation was below that.
 
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Ada said:
Wasn't there a leak posted a while back that Sony bought significantly more wafers from TSMC? Surely that explains the difference.
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It's absolutely more reflective of supply than anything.

However, PS5 seems to be way more in demand given the "2nd hand" market prices. Prices are up to 2.5x the MSRP even with it being the most supplied console launch in history, and that number is more than the PS4 or any other system in recent memory.
 
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