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NPD November 2018: All three consoles over 1.3m for the month
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No, Kinect came out during "this month" as the equivalent timeframe.
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I hope I am wrong. It was said by Beji:
Yes, he talked about WW shipments, but I doubt it will be very different. When he said that, I thought he was wrong, but now, after this NPD result... I don't know, but it's seems possible to me, if not likely.
It's came in November 2010 which equivalent to November 2018.
In 2011 X360 did ~7.5 million, so even if PS4 did ~5 million next year it will eat 2.5 million from the gap.
What's with all the Diablo 3 interest this month when it launched on Switch in last month's reporting and charted?
not very frequently, but I do wonder about some of the takes and illogical conclusions we see all the time.
like, do they do the same at their 9-5 jobs lol? If you're a consultant for instance do they do the same weird hottakes.
or are they normally reasonable in logic, and it's just console war type stuff that leads to these dumb comments. For once, hopefully it is console wars.
PS2 is the highest selling console of all time.
PS2 = +46 million.
X360= +43 million.
Wild guess: I think people are wondering about physical sales because the game seems to be doing well on the US eShop recently (has been #2 for a few days now, although I guess it just dropped to #3 recently.)
It remained quite high on the eshop charts all month long so people are curious how well it continues to sell.
This Black Firday. I bought a game for every console.
3 games for myself and 2 for my cousin. Only spent about 8
Other then that. I don' know.
3 games for myself and 2 for my cousin. Only spent about 8
Probably the E-shop rankings it's had. And that really cheap Black Firday mistake sale by Wal-Mart.
Other then that. I don' know.
Indeed.
Also wondering when its slowing down again.
Id also be interested in its performance, same with Civilization. Cant really see a problem with being curious about them. Both are pretty popular franchises.
Not for me. I'm the video game vexer, and have a curse that inflicts pain on me when video games sell well. From my lair I hatch nefarious plots to destroy video games forever.
Nintendo joining the digital panel would indeed be amazing. Hope they realize it would be a benefit to them.
I'm kinda curious if Diablo 3 did anything significant since it seems like Walmart sold all their copies lol and it has good word of mouth.
Sony projects an 8% drop for FY2018 as of Q3. In first two quarters they were within 5% of 2017, so presumably chances are good they'll hit their projection.
They started the year projecting 15% drop, for what's worth.
Well even doubling sells would remain a niche product. It won't be mainstream anytime soon but I could see it become a slow constant burner.
MatPiscatella if Nintendo were to let you add eshop sales to the charts, would it be retroactive ?
Basically would you have access to past digital sales ?
Basically would you have access to past digital sales ?
Anyone joining the DLP agrees to share data back to Jan 2012. So yeah, big restatement were that to happen.
Its definitely civ, but I find myself playing it differently on switch than PC. Hard to explain, but in my head they're almost different experiences?
I dont see how it stops being niche tbh, not unless we start seeing exponential growth... and that's not super likely. Maybe next gen.
Its definitely civ, but I find myself playing it differently on switch than PC. Hard to explain, but in my head they're almost different experiences?
I dont see how it stops being niche tbh, not unless we start seeing exponential growth... and that's not super likely. Maybe next gen.
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well there we go.
they don't people want to know wii u digital sales
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Pardon me. Everyone, including me, always forgets about the good old Ps2
Oh, ok. I understand what you mean. I thought the game itself had significant differences somehow.
Do you all think a wireless VR Headset would boost PS VR further or is it's current performance so far past everything else already as good as you think it gets?
You seriously wouldn't provide us an updated list for the past year or so? Meanie.
I imagine due to the price mistake at Walmart on BF followed by some impromptu deals by other retailers.
It shouldn't be hard to believe, because it's doing basically no different than it ever has. PS4 has always had a minor lead overall in the US. The only exception was at the start of the gen, when during 2014 PS4 opened up a 30% lead. But that's easiest when LTD totals are still low, and the end of that year Xbox One pushed the lead back down to ~10%, establishing their pattern of middling years with good holidays. This means there's been some seesawing, but gradually PS4 has pushed further and further ahead. They finished 2015 with an 11.5% lead, ended 2016 ahead by 12.1%, 2017 by 14.7%, and 2018 likely around 15%. In other words, they're still making the gap bigger, not just in absolute units but by percentage as well.
Xbox One X has been a big success for Microsoft, but not because it's somehow reversed or even arrested the sales trends. There's been a slight change to the status quo, but not much. Xbox's "momentum" year is going to be the platform's second-worst in terms of being outsold on units. It's going to be their third-worst (or third-best, if you prefer) in terms of being outsold by percentage. One X has been much more valuable for brand engagement purposes, and for bolstering a hardware revenue stream they've had to constantly hobble with deals and cuts.
As mentioned, Kinect was "last month" launch-aligned. It's part of the reason why this is the first November where Xbox One is below 360 launch-aligned. (The other factor is Xbox 360 S, which launched "six months ago" in the aligned reference frame.)
Pretty likely, but not guaranteed. PS4 has indeed started lagging 360 "now that" the 360 S has been released. But it had built a very large lead--about 4.5m--and eroding that will still take a while. For example, if PS4 is down YoY by 15% in 2019, and then down another 15% from there the following year, the 360 still doesn't pass it until mid-December 2020. The presumed announcement of PS5 sometime earlier in the year will cause a dip in PS4 sales, so the crossover would occur a couple months earlier...but still basically as the generation ends. In the chance--not likely but not impossible--that a permanent PS4 pricecut next year stems the dropoff to only 10% each year (i.e. 5m in 2019 and 4.5m in 2020), then 360 wouldn't pass PS4 until 2021.
Worldwide sell-in and US sell-through do not move in lockstep, and there was no reason to disbelieve Benji ; he was just stating publicly available info. For the first nine months of 2018, PS4 shipments were 800k behind 2017. Given that Sony are projecting lower FY shipments, we can assume this quarter will be down too. So PS4 worldwide shipments being lower in 2018 is pretty much assured, and has been for a while.
But it's quite possible US sales to customers will be up in 2018. The platform has been up YTD since April, and Sony only need to sell 940k in December to end the year that way. Even if they miss this result, it will likely not be by a large margin. Either way they'd still be posting one of the best fifth years ever, generally in line with PS2. (They're not having a renaissance like the 360 did, though.)
MatPiscatella When someone joins the digital panel, do they give the total sold for titles before January 2012 or is that month treated as Month 1?
I know people mentioned a couple of things like eShop rankings and Wal Mart price but I also think 3rd Parties on Switch in general draw a lot of attention on how they are doing. The narrative for a long time has been that 3rd Parties, especially Western 3rd Parties, struggle on Nintendo hardware, which leads to questions on most major releases.
Nope. Data starts at Jan 2012 forward. No back data before Jan 2012.
Not when I'm asking about the traditional space. And certainly not considering Nintendo's own talk of consolidation and how they believe the mobile market is separate, a third pillar, a gateway to purchasing traditional hardware, etc.
Well for one there'd need to be mainstream marketing spend associated with. But at least back in 2015-16, none of the major VR makers saw this as anything other than a niche for foreseeable future, so their investment has been proportional.
Does NPD share partial data with any customers throughout the month like Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo etc? Or does everyone only see it when it gets released
It's below month 2 Black Ops 4 and RDR2.
Also positions only give relative data to other games. #1 can sell $130,000,000, #2 $120,000,000 and #3 $50,000,000.
If you combine Pikachi and Evee, Pokémon Let's Go would be number 3. And we know that Let's Go did 1.5M (with digital and bundles, but before the end of the month).
NPD ranking is based on dollars, but Battlefield V and Fallout 76 are probably between 750k and 1.5M units sold. I think it's good for both. It could have been better, of course, but it's not really bad.
Yes of course, and it's a bit annoying we rarely get any details.
