6 Novembers, the times xb1 was closest/won all predate 1x by a few years. Also IIRC biggest delta in npd november was ~30% in xb1 favour. So depends what % is defined as trouncing i guess.
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NPD November 2018: All three consoles over 1.3m for the month
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I do think Dec Switch 2M is likely. Not a lock, but quite likely. I think it's 5 weeks like last year. But while Mario Odyssey was a behemoth, Nintendo's current roster is much more poised towards a Christmas pickup: Two big party games, a coop Pokemon and maybe some Labo.
If Europe disappeared tomorrow, for sure :)
I think people over-estimate the impact of winning NPD.
Sony wants to strike a balance between selling at higher price (299$, 399$) and selling lot of consoles at cheaper price (199$).They know what they are doing.
I... uh... I don't know how to respond to this in any manner that doesn't make it sound like I'm patronizing you, but think about it just a little bit, you don't even need to overthink it or anything. You're asking what'd happen if they didn't have a deal during the one month where people expect big deals. You can arrive at the answer by yourself, come on.
This is the misconception I was getting at. The only point in time this gen where the Xbox One was getting trounced in the US was in the 2017 six month lead up to Xbox One X because people understandably were waiting for that. The rest of the gen before that the Xbox One was not getting trounced in the US. People are so prone in their discussion arguments to conflate the much bigger worldwide sales gap with the US sales gap, which for the entire gen has been ~10% less sold than PS4.
What are the age of people who assume things like that? I'm like you: I don't mean to come off as patronizing, but if you're at least in your late teens, you should know that sales are frequent among all industries, and the Big Three are always putting out bundles during the holidays and Black Friday.
Noticed this as well. Would be really nice to get a LTD number on that title. It's clearly successful, but I'm curious just how successful. Will also be nice to see what Ubisoft Milan is working on next.
Positions don't tell you much though, we know it's down from BF1.
I would say it'll generally be below PS2 sales by year (though not by a huge amount). But due to concentration of sales into the holidays, Switch could definitely have better Nov/Dec results, especially next year. And scattered other months with big releases.
My personal views may not mean a whole lot, though. Predictions are a fool's errand, cuz data don't care.
It did beat the Pro launch, but it's third best for the platform, actually--both 2015 and 2017 were higher. (So 3 of the top 5 Novembers of all time belong to PS4.)
Being up YoY doesn't automatically make your results good. Xbox One in 2018 was up versus 2017 because last year was very low. Now being compared to the bright spot of 2017, it's (mildly) down.
Monthly sales are down YoY--though whether 13% is "sharply" could be debated--but you're wrong about YTD. The PS4 is up over 2017 through November, and most likely will end the year that way.
Of course they'd be happy with more sales at price. The point is they weren't willing to allow more sales at a discount. While that imposed a limit to results, which no company is ever quite satisfied with, they knew ahead of time it would. That's why their shipment forecast has remained below last year's.
"Good versus expectations" (or "great", or "bad", etc.) is completely underdetermined, though. Whose expectations? Sony clearly had in mind performance very close to what actually happened, so does that mean they did good? Joe Forum expected way over 2m sold, so does that mean it was a disaster? The whole idea is a shell game. Microsoft started the gen talking up the possibility of selling a billion units. This does not make Xbox One X the biggest failure in the history of consoles (since it's sold such a smaller portion of that than One S).
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Oh, maybe that is what his actual quote was saying? But this article really took it out of context then:
That's poor reporting if that's not what he said.
Thank you. People should stop downplaying BFV. It did fine.
Go show those fuckers DICE.
Yes, that quote is for all consoles in a decade long generation. He says the current gen is 300M total, next gen estimated at 400M total, and they figured that number could get to 1BN.
"Every generation, as you've probably heard, has grown approximately 30%. So this generation is about 300 million units. Most industry experts think the next generation will get upwards of about 400 million units. That's if it's a game console, over the next decade."
"Every generation, as you've probably heard, has grown approximately 30%. So this generation is about 300 million units. Most industry experts think the next generation will get upwards of about 400 million units. That's if it's a game console, over the next decade."
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-next-gen-console-sales-could-hit-1-billion/1100-6408879/
"Every generation, as you've probably heard, has grown approximately 30 percent," Mehdi said. "So this generation is about 300 million units. Most industry experts think the next generation will get upwards of about 400 million units. That's if it's a game console, over the next decade."
"We think you can go broader than a game console, that's our aim, and you can go from 400 million to potentially upwards of a billion units,"
he just thought that there way would help increase the normal gen bump
Soul
https://www.dualshockers.com/xbox-g...aims-to-conquer-40-market-share-for-xbox-one/
So yeah MS were on crystal meth throughout 2013.
He totally meant it that way. Let's not forget that they were targetting 40% market-share in Germany as well when current gen started:
https://www.dualshockers.com/xbox-g...aims-to-conquer-40-market-share-for-xbox-one/
So yeah MS were on crystal meth throughout 2013.
Right, that was in the other article too. Help increase it by up to 600M which is still quite ridiculous but yeah not quite a billion.
Assuming that increases that were seen in early console markets would extend and become exponential is an... aggressive... assumption.
Wow, BFV number 3??? Thought it bombed. I got it free with my new GPU but I still haven't tried it.
I'm surprised Pokemon is so far down the list although I guess thats to be expected against RDR2 and CoD but Fallout 76 and BFV beat it? Thats unexpected.
Why are there no numbers for individual consoles?
I'm surprised Pokemon is so far down the list although I guess thats to be expected against RDR2 and CoD but Fallout 76 and BFV beat it? Thats unexpected.
Why are there no numbers for individual consoles?
i agree but its better then saying that we think xbox will sell a billion units
Pokemon was third with both versions combined. Also that is only physical too, no digital data for Nintendo games.
Still kind of crazy of a prediction even in this context. Also, Xbox 360 never got near 100 million units, and they haven't shared the actual number anyway. About 85 million?
Eh doesn't really matter if its Xbox, pickles or dog food, just because something grew at a particular rate in history doesn't mean it should be expected to continue to do so.
Fallout at 4?! Man, there's no saving you guys. This basically confirms that Trump will be re-elected and someone from Jersey Shore will run for US presidency in the next 20 years.
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Ah yeah, that makes sense now. I've never played Pokemon, didn't realize the two versions were same game.
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The first 400 million expectation was for all consoles, sure. But how is the rest of the range from 400 million to upwards of 1 billion talking about anything else than Xbox One?
"We think you can go broader than a game console, that's our aim, and you can go from 400 million to potentially upwards of a billion units. That's how we're thinking of the Xbox opportunity as we go forward."
A very close month, all three consoles did great.
I'm surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be, that Fallout 76 charted so well. Did the early discounts help? Or is Fallout just being Fallout and selling well, despite the quality of the product?
#1 for the month, and one of Playstation's best Novembers is not "really, really bad" by any definition.
"The narrative"? No, PlayStation 4 really did have an excellent year.
Can we please retire "narrative" in 2018? No? Crap.
I'm surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be, that Fallout 76 charted so well. Did the early discounts help? Or is Fallout just being Fallout and selling well, despite the quality of the product?
#1 for the month, and one of Playstation's best Novembers is not "really, really bad" by any definition.
"The narrative"? No, PlayStation 4 really did have an excellent year.
Can we please retire "narrative" in 2018? No? Crap.